[CarCrashKid]

Seriously though, freshcream, did you learn anything from this?

[Rutting Elephant]

I was confused by "no money to send" (post 17) and " I make75 USD an hour" (post 47). Wtf?

[MidniteSpecial]

Did you ever even cum in her?

[freshcream]

haha, it's all good. Those were crazy times. My head definetely wasn't were it should have been. First long term travel can take you for a spin. Amazing to think back on it all.

Right now I am laughing about how things turned out. Getting a chick pregnant in a foreign country could freak most people out I guess.

[Thomas the Rhymer]

(05-06-2014 11:44 PM)Belize King Wrote:  

I think my Little Rock chick is pregnant. 28 years old, 10 years of smashing, the first two times in my life I sent rawdog resulted in pregnancies. Both aborted.

I don't know what to think. I was planning on exiting the US this August or December. Now what? Going to get the test and take it from there.

I have been floating thru life. Maybe thus is a good thing.

Sorry to hear that bro.

What do you want to do if she is pregnant?

[Hector_St_Clare]

I consider abortion to be murder, so I can't say I'm happy the way this turned out.

You do realized, you just followed *exactly* the same philosophy that underlies modern liberal-feminism, right?

[CactusCat589]

I mean, in this case, abortion did come to the rescue. Men invented birth control, we're entitled to make use of our own invention.

[Onto]

(05-07-2014 07:13 PM)CactusCat589 Wrote:  

I mean, in this case, abortion did come to the rescue. Men invented birth control, we're entitled to make use of our own invention.

That'a just it, we're not entitled to make use of our own invention. Men can't "choose" to have an abortion. Unfortunately.

My opinion is based on my county, America, and in this country women can choose what they want from life, but make someone else pay the price for it.

Choosing to take what you want from life and making someone else pay the price for what you want is illegitimate.

Now I know BB and I may sound like we differ on this subject, but we really don't. I do believe that a man should step up and care for a child the best he's able to. If he does this then it's good karma for him.

What I don't like about America is that men are never given the freedom of choice to rise up and do what's right. Instead they are forced to give an arbitrary percentage of their salary.

This is really castration of the masculine, not so much because his money (power, freedom) is being taken from him, but because his "opportunity" to rise up and do what's right, of his own free will, is taken from him.

Doing the right thing (morality) can only exist in a society where we are free to do the wrong thing without the threat of the sword at our neck.

Here's a common conversation in America:

Child: Isn't it nice that Daddy pays for our house, clothes, car and food? (Translation: The Father is powerful and he loves me)
Mother: He only pays, because the court makes him. If he didn't he would go to jail. (Translation: The Father is weak and he doesn't really love you)

[rottenapple]

Ok guys I think I'll post this here because it is quite similar to the OP's story.

So here I am, in Latin America as a European, having a great time and banging many beautiful girls and now today I receive a certain message. A beautiful girl I know tells me she's pregnant and its mine and she wants to keep it. Now obviously this worries me a lot. But I also read through this whole post, looked up statistics, etc. so let me give some details for you all to be able to assess my situation right now.

-she appeared to be a nice girl, very pretty, dont know her very well as she lives in a city 7 hours from where I live. Only met a few times.
-she tells me she is 6 weeks pregnant. 6 weeks ago I banged her once, sober, with a condom (didnt break). Nothing abnormal about the sex.
-according to what I find online the chance to get pregnant with good condom use is about 2-5% for a couple having sex in a years time.
-she texted me the news through whatsapp. When I answered, I was very careful, I didnt show any emotion or anything, just told her i wanted more information. Asked her if she went to the doctor, if she slept with other guys during that time. She got very defensive very quickly. Basically she told me I shouldnt be asking such ridiculous questions, told me multiple times that I should forget about her, that she will never contact me for anything but she will keep the baby (still havent said anything about my intentions here, only asked questions), that I should not worry about it and that she doesnt know why she even told me and finally she tells me Im a coward and goes offline. Doesnt pick up the phone (and doesnt check my later replies strangely).
-I saw her 2 weeks ago and her tits looked bigger, I even asked her that at that time. At this point she knew she was pregnant but didnt tell me because she was afraid she said. She also told me now that if I didnt believe that she was pregnant, I can come see the test.

So basically, at this point I believe she is pregnant. I dont think she would make that up. However, given the odds of the sex, I doubt it is mine. And for the following reason also.

Ever since I know her, I knew she has 2 facebooks. She never told me this, but she is friends with her other profile and I saw that by accident and clicked through. Never confronted her about it, just thought it could be useful backup info. I see on this other profile that during the time she claimed to get pregnant she posted 3 pictures of her with another guy (other foreigner), seemingly being together in a relationship. They were posted from 2 weeks before she supposedly got pregnant up until one week after.

So what am I thinking now? First, I dont know if she is actually 6 weeks pregnant and it is hard for me to verify, since a trip to meet her would be about 7 hours from where I live. She probably is pregnant, but could be longer or whatever. Probably she is pregnant from another guy, with whom she had unprotected sex. She is not really the slut type, so I think probably just the guy from the pictures.

However, I cannot be 100% sure now can I? Im still worried. What would any of you do? Erase her from your life and write it off as bullshit? Try to push for more info (not in person)? Go meet her and see what her face says while shes explaining things? Give her no time and see if she contacts me further?

Any input would be appreciated. Im sure some of you know these situations very well.

[lowside]

(06-18-2014 09:31 PM)rottenapple Wrote:  

Erase her from your life and write it off as bullshit?

This is exactly what you should do.

And if this ever comes up in the future, demand a test to verify that you're the father (which you're most likely not).

rottenapple Wrote:

She is not really the slut type

come on dude....

rottenapple Wrote:

Probably she is pregnant from another guy, with whom she had unprotected sex.

rottenapple Wrote:

Ever since I know her, I knew she has 2 facebooks. She never told me this

[germanico]

Ok, it seems that nobody is listening so let me tell it to you as it is AGAIN:

- Shes not pregnant.
- You bang her, taking your own precautions.
- She tells you she is pregnant.
-You freak out at first, then conclude that it cant be that bad.
- You have sex with her to reconcile, cumming inside her this time as she cant get more pregnant and want to, for once in your life, have sex without any worries.
-She gets pregnant like for reals this time.

She seems fucked up enough to have you as security in case the first guy doesnt comes through.

The way you avoid this is:

- Never coming inside a woman, condom or no condom.
- The moment she tells you she is pregnant, you walk to the pharmacy and buy TWO pregnancy tests from different brands and make her take them both, in your presence. (As in, no "ill take them later in my house" or "Ill show them to you tomorrow" or "I took my own test and I have it in my purse")

Just delete her from your life. As yu tell it, you only had sex with her ONCE, with a condom that didnt break.

Shes not pregnant dude. And if she by any chance is, its not yours.

Save the pictures from her other Facebook, and if she ever corners you, show them to her and tell her to name her kid after Gunther or whatever the other guys name is.

[pitt]

Rottenapple she is probably lying. Some of these girls that seem like good girls tend to be the worst, so don't think she is a good girl unless you really have spent extended periods of time with her, appearances tend to deceive.

Forget this chick, I doubt that's your baby.

[Party Pooper]

(06-18-2014 09:31 PM)rottenapple Wrote:  

Ever since I know her, I knew she has 2 facebooks. She never told me this, but she is friends with her other profile and I saw that by accident and clicked through. Never confronted her about it, just thought it could be useful backup info. I see on this other profile that during the time she claimed to get pregnant she posted 3 pictures of her with another guy (other foreigner), seemingly being together in a relationship. They were posted from 2 weeks before she supposedly got pregnant up until one week after.

So what am I thinking now? First, I dont know if she is actually 6 weeks pregnant and it is hard for me to verify, since a trip to meet her would be about 7 hours from where I live. She probably is pregnant, but could be longer or whatever. Probably she is pregnant from another guy, with whom she had unprotected sex. She is not really the slut type, so I think probably just the guy from the pictures.

This really made me cringe.

She is clearly a mental unstable women who is just toying with you.
She is not pregnant from you. The chances are bigger that you win the lottery tomorrow then that you got a girl pregnant from having sex with her for only one time with an intact condom.

Remove her from your life.

[RonnieB]

(06-19-2014 03:47 AM)Party Pooper Wrote:  

The chances are bigger that you win the lottery tomorrow then that you got a girl pregnant from having sex with her for only one time with an intact condom.

I'm a big believer in this too. For her to get pregnant the sperm somehow needed to get out of the condom and all the way up into her uterus. If you saw the condom was not broken and was fine I can't see how this could happen.

2-5% chance of getting pregnant per year for a couple fucking all the time takes into account cases where you get slack and slip up. In a whole year you are going to have times where you don't wash your cock after fucking and put another condom on and cum could get on the outside of it by accident. Or you could by mistake finger her after touching cum or something. If it was just straight normal sex where you came in the condom and it didn't break I can't see how you could make her pregnant.

[rottenapple]

I know guys I'm thinking pretty much all the same things. But to clarify. I did have about 6-7 times sex with her, just not in the period she claimed to get pregnant, so it is irrelevant. And I believe she is pregnant not because she says so, but mostly because truly her tits were bigger when I saw her. It was remarkable, so based on that I think it can be true. She also does not ask for anything from me, in fact the only thing she says is that I should erase her from my life (I know she is trying reversed psychology offcourse). And I don't think she is a true slut for some reasons. First of all, I have extensive experience with sluts hehe ;-) and she for instance doesnt go out much, lives with family, etc. and most importantly gave heavy resistance for me to fuck her the first time.

But no doubt, the two facebooks etc, are clear signs that she is not the nice ideal girl she appears to be, I know that!

The most likely hypothesis for me is that she knew I was out of reach for her (it was pretty obvious) and so although she kept fucking me she took on a nice foreigner guy on a visit for some weeks/months. This guy probably got her pregnant, but left the country, unknowingly or not, and she now tries to see if I can be backup for her fuckup since I also had sex with her in the window of conception.

Anyway, for now Im gonna keep quiet and cold. She doesnt give me any viable info, so it is her turn to play. These situations are awful though, even with all the factors included, we are talking about a possible child here.

On an important sidenote: the more I think about it, the more unsure I get on the fact that during the sex I didnt put it in raw for a little while. I am 100% sure I didnt come inside here (and came in a condom) , but the memory is vage since quite a few others have passed since then.

Thanks for the input so far!

[iop890]

I'm on my 2nd pregnancy scare right now here in Bangkok, happened last June too, I should really start wearing condoms.

[germanico]

(06-19-2014 09:10 AM)rottenapple Wrote:  

and most importantly gave heavy resistance for me to fuck her the first time.

Thats just a lack of game.

Quote:

I am 100% sure I didnt come inside here (and came in a condom) , but the memory is vage since quite a few others have passed since then.

You know what, fuck it. We here are trying to give you honest advice. If you are going to just ignore it, then good for you.

Have fun parenting.

[eradicator]

(06-19-2014 10:22 AM)iop890 Wrote:  

I should really start wearing condoms.

[heavy]

This was like watching two dudes drag race and get into a mangled bad accident:
(1) It happened because of hormones and ultimately being stupid.
(2) It's pretty gruesome...disturbing even.
(3) I couldn't take my eyes off the thread and even scanned every page.
(4) I was torn between rooting for a life lesson and safety. Just like part of me wants the two dudes to be badly hurt and learn their lesson, part of me wanted OP to have to face his stupidity.
(5) Then I realized I've been stupid both racing someone with my car and blowing my load into a random chic, and my sympathy kicked in for OP.

Sometimes I wonder if our world is simply God's reality TV.

[rottenapple]

(06-19-2014 10:54 AM)germanico Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 09:10 AM)rottenapple Wrote:  

and most importantly gave heavy resistance for me to fuck her the first time.

Thats just a lack of game.

Quote:

I am 100% sure I didnt come inside here (and came in a condom) , but the memory is vage since quite a few others have passed since then.

You know what, fuck it. We here are trying to give you honest advice. If you are going to just ignore it, then good for you.

Have fun parenting.

I know and thanks for that. I am however following your advice, so no reason for the hate. And lack of game, there no reasons for that claim. I have solid game. Above 20 notches this year and the one in question is atleast an 8, but thats not the issue here.

[germanico]

Counting "notches" = Not solid game.

Having evidence of a girl fucking around you and still seeing her = Not solid game.

Having evidence that she is bullshiting you and still harboring the hope that she is not = Not solid game.

Trusting what a woman says = No game.

Not listening to the life saving advice of more experienced bros = Not solid game.

And most importantly:

Thinking that "theres no way she is a slut just because she didnt slept with ME on the first night" = Not solid game.

No hate here man, just telling it as it is, whether you want to hear it or not. Just make sure that she doesnt names "your" kid after the other guy.

[rottenapple]

(06-19-2014 12:49 PM)germanico Wrote:  

Counting "notches" = Not solid game.

Having evidence of a girl fucking around you and still seeing her = Not solid game.

Having evidence that she is bullshiting you and still harboring the hope that she is not = Not solid game.

Trusting what a woman says = No game.

Not listening to the life saving advice of more experienced bros = Not solid game.

And most importantly:

Thinking that "theres no way she is a slut just because she didnt slept with ME on the first night" = Not solid game.

No hate here man, just telling it as it is, whether you want to hear it or not. Just make sure that she doesnt names "your" kid after the other guy.

Haha, ok man. I currently have about 10 girls (of decent to high quality) in rotation in 2 cities, I cant expect all of them to stay only with me and I dont care either. Whenever I call they will come. No matter who else is doing shit for them. If you think that is a lack of game, ok we have different interpretations then.

And the rest is just bullshit, I am in no way harboring hope. I dont want a kid and I dont want to be with her, the situation now is fine for me, but I prefer certainty over doubt, that is all. And its obvious I dont trust her, I mean she handles 2 fbs, pretty clear for me, I dont know where you get the impression that I trust her. I dont trust any girl I am with. I just said I dont think shes a full blown slut and indeed I base that partly on not being easy with me, here in South America as a blond decent looking guy from Europe with his shit together, a girl not sleeping with you directly is already a category above the promiscuous girls. No need to misquote me on that either.

And you being the more experienced person, might be, but quite frankly I dont know you and neither do you know me. I can see you have a lot of posts and a good reputation on the forum so thats great, but that still doesnt say anything about how we are in comparison. In any case lets not get personal. I gave my version of the story, you misinterpreted it, but nevertheless I appreciate the advice.

And on topic: Im keeping cold and silent now, ill let you guys now if there is any news.

[Cheetah]

(06-19-2014 09:10 AM)rottenapple Wrote:  

I know guys I'm thinking pretty much all the same things. But to clarify. I did have about 6-7 times sex with her, just not in the period she claimed to get pregnant, so it is irrelevant. And I believe she is pregnant not because she says so, but mostly because truly her tits were bigger when I saw her. It was remarkable, so based on that I think it can be true. She also does not ask for anything from me, in fact the only thing she says is that I should erase her from my life (I know she is trying reversed psychology offcourse). And I don't think she is a true slut for some reasons. First of all, I have extensive experience with sluts hehe ;-) and she for instance doesnt go out much, lives with family, etc. and most importantly gave heavy resistance for me to fuck her the first time.

But no doubt, the two facebooks etc, are clear signs that she is not the nice ideal girl she appears to be, I know that!

The most likely hypothesis for me is that she knew I was out of reach for her (it was pretty obvious) and so although she kept fucking me she took on a nice foreigner guy on a visit for some weeks/months. This guy probably got her pregnant, but left the country, unknowingly or not, and she now tries to see if I can be backup for her fuckup since I also had sex with her in the window of conception.

Anyway, for now Im gonna keep quiet and cold. She doesnt give me any viable info, so it is her turn to play. These situations are awful though, even with all the factors included, we are talking about a possible child here.

On an important sidenote: the more I think about it, the more unsure I get on the fact that during the sex I didnt put it in raw for a little while. I am 100% sure I didnt come inside here (and came in a condom) , but the memory is vage since quite a few others have passed since then.

Thanks for the input so far!

If she has been rawdogged by other guy(s) but you and she more or less haven't... Have you told her that you highly doubt that a DNA test would show you as the father, mentioning the use of condoms and only doing it once during that period of time? If it's a bluff she probably won't bother you anymore if she knows that she will never be able to trick you into thinking that it's yours - if she is pregnant that is.

[rottenapple]

(06-19-2014 03:03 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 09:10 AM)rottenapple Wrote:  

I know guys I'm thinking pretty much all the same things. But to clarify. I did have about 6-7 times sex with her, just not in the period she claimed to get pregnant, so it is irrelevant. And I believe she is pregnant not because she says so, but mostly because truly her tits were bigger when I saw her. It was remarkable, so based on that I think it can be true. She also does not ask for anything from me, in fact the only thing she says is that I should erase her from my life (I know she is trying reversed psychology offcourse). And I don't think she is a true slut for some reasons. First of all, I have extensive experience with sluts hehe ;-) and she for instance doesnt go out much, lives with family, etc. and most importantly gave heavy resistance for me to fuck her the first time.

But no doubt, the two facebooks etc, are clear signs that she is not the nice ideal girl she appears to be, I know that!

The most likely hypothesis for me is that she knew I was out of reach for her (it was pretty obvious) and so although she kept fucking me she took on a nice foreigner guy on a visit for some weeks/months. This guy probably got her pregnant, but left the country, unknowingly or not, and she now tries to see if I can be backup for her fuckup since I also had sex with her in the window of conception.

Anyway, for now Im gonna keep quiet and cold. She doesnt give me any viable info, so it is her turn to play. These situations are awful though, even with all the factors included, we are talking about a possible child here.

On an important sidenote: the more I think about it, the more unsure I get on the fact that during the sex I didnt put it in raw for a little while. I am 100% sure I didnt come inside here (and came in a condom) , but the memory is vage since quite a few others have passed since then.

Thanks for the input so far!

If she has been rawdogged by other guy(s) but you and she more or less haven't... Have you told her that you highly doubt that a DNA test would show you as the father, mentioning the use of condoms and only doing it once during that period of time? If it's a bluff she probably won't bother you anymore if she knows that she will never be able to trick you into thinking that it's yours - if she is pregnant that is.

Small update:

-She is def pregnant, she showed me pics of herself with big tummy
-She has a boyfriend from Germany, who she will marry in September, after which she will move to Germany to live there.
-She maintains that it is def my child and can only be my child, she told me she knew the other guy before but they never had sex.
-She says she knows I wont be involved and thats fine with her.

So, to summarize, it looks like another guy with decent financial means will raise which is possibly my child. The mother is in no way considering abortion as she sees no need for it, the guy is apparently ok with it as well and knows it is not his (as it could not be due to date).

For me personally, I think I only have to worry about what would happen if she breaks up with the guy. If she is already German by marriage by then, she can easily come find me. Any follow up suggestions? Does it matter to me legally if she states that she does not want anything from me?

[Ensam]

Not sure what the laws are in Germany specifically but in many western countries once a man has accepted paternal responsibility for the child he can't abandon the child financially even if the child isn't biologically his. So if she gets married to the German guy and he acts like the father then even if they get divorced you likely won't be on the hook. Of course, consult your local family laws.