[chochemonger1]

(12-13-2012 08:56 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 08:34 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

Slightly off-topic, but the kind souls at PuaHate are scheming:

Cheers for the heads up Icarus. Orbiter alerted us to it last week. Here is some more of the weirdo's drivel on the Sleazy website. He really does want to fuck it up!

Here:
http://marriedgamedenialist.blogspot.com...-cant.html

Quote:"The biggest problem with his forum now is that they are building up some plan that will likely end up as a tragedy. They are planning this Siberia "Poosy-slaying" trip, bragging that they will go to some "shithole town in siberia" to bang every woman. Even claiming arrogantly that women will have sex with them just because they have an iPhone (stuff like this, the worst offender is this guy by the "Vorkuta" nickname and that other "chochemonger"). What they don't know is that many people in Russia are catching word of Roosh, and on many places we would be a watched man already. Even worse, I know a few VDV who got word of the "pickup trip" and will not tolerate that kind of people, in clubs in Yekaterinburg, Krasnoyarsk and Novosibirsk, and you know how Russians are. I warned the guy who is helping them, some Russian dude who is pipelining girls through VKontakte, but it seems they are too arrogant to consider putting a break to it.
Best I could have done to save them from themselves is starting a research process with a friend in Samara who might know how to block Mr Joe Blow from ever getting a visa to go to Russia."

I like the idea that we have an arch nemesis out there trying to foil us at every turn. I hope he is wearing a black cape and stroking a cat as he posts his bonkers ideas.

Your idea was just too good Vorkuta lol. There were bound to be haters and there will be more, especially in Mother Russia. Whatever happens, can´t let them stop us.

[tiggaling]

I have always figured PUAHATE is staffed by guys who were promised 10's by the "PUA industry" and couldn't get 7's (or even approach them)

>What they don't know is that many people in Russia are catching word of Roosh

um yeah, sure.

I do plan on hitting Siberia over the summer, so perhaps I can give some recon advice. And I have been there briefly as well. I loved the place, very friendly people and amazing landscape.

Those girls sitting round the table are of a kind of an average quality I would have thought, yet there are not beautiful girls everywhere you go - but I do think the most beautiful girls I have ever met were Siberian - and humble too. I suspect it is to do with Aristocrats and general free thinkers from the Soviet Unions being sent there to the gulags, and the people there being their descendants.

So I didn't get to Tomsk on that trip, but strangely enough, I met three different females from Tomsk within the year of visiting Siberia - so I took it as a sign that is the place to go to there.

[Architekt]

I can't do anything but lol at those statements. Aside from the fact that Russia probably gets 1000s, if not more tourists every year from all of the countries that we're from, there's absolutely no telling who we are anyway. Even if someone was bribed to not let us in, a few dollars more would probably ensure our safe entry into the country. It would actually be even funnier if they went to the full extent of somehow tracking each and every one of us down to try and make our lives hell. Would just show how pathetic they are

[chochemonger1]

(12-13-2012 09:55 AM)Architekt Wrote:  

I can't do anything but lol at those statements. Aside from the fact that Russia probably gets 1000s, if not more tourists every year from all of the countries that we're from, there's absolutely no telling who we are anyway. Even if someone was bribed to not let us in, a few dollars more would probably ensure our safe entry into the country. It would actually be even funnier if they went to the full extent of somehow tracking each and every one of us down to try and make our lives hell. Would just show how pathetic they are

Im not worried about them. But it goes to show what kind of hate this kind of adventure can bring about.
Im sure a lot of the local dudes wont be too happy having a group of foreigners foraging through their pussy. They are bound to cause trouble one way or another. I for one will hit the gym like never before next year lol.

[Pacesetter20]

Quote:

Does anyone want to rain on their parade? I see they are building up a Siberia pickup trip and if I pull and tip the right people, these guys will have the most miserable time of their lives (if they ever get there) and Roosh will never get a visa to enter Russia. Let me know if there is any extra ideas.

Plus, see it as a favor. The way things are, and considering the cities where they will go and what they will do there, I wouldn't be surprised if they get popped by a random angry Russian when they try to steal his girlfriend. They don't mind shooting for a minor road rage, imagine what they would do to this bunch. Save them from themselves?

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I wanted to get something going here, maybe I tried to gauge how the feelings were towards them. The people on the forum are planning a Siberia sex trip, and I want to either prevent it, or make it as miserable as possible for them. But I don't see how it's really possible, I don't think the members here can do much. I am trying to block the visa of at least one member I know there, but time will tell.

Besides, the way things are, if they go, they will get their heads snapped by some angry VDV after they try to steal his girlfriend.

Thanks for your attention anyways.

TK

This is hilarious. I now have a new reason to go. Spite.

First he claims to have the connections to block visas, but then goes on to say he doesn't think it is possible.

Any bets on which fomer RooshV troll it is?

Not to mention the dick pics they love to post.

[Volk]

Who cares, he's probably talking out of his ass. You will all be fine, Russians are some of the coolest people I have met. I wish I could join, but money is very short at the moment.

However I have a LOT of good material for learning Russian. If anyone is interested, send me a PM, I'll share it. I'll even teach you a trick or two to learn it as fast as you want, because you need as much Russian as possible.

Again guys, don't mind the haters they can't do shit. This trip you will take is awesome so it will get a lot of envious whiteknights crying.

[presidentcarter]

If anyone has a problem with people traveling to see new places and meet new people (yes, girls included)...they clearly have something shoved far far up their ass.

[GameTheory]

(12-13-2012 04:40 PM)Volk Wrote:  

However I have a LOT of good material for learning Russian. If anyone is interested, send me a PM, I'll share it. I'll even teach you a trick or two to learn it as fast as you want, because you need as much Russian as possible.

on a similar train of thought, anyone have an opinion on what's the best smartphone/app translator ?

[Volk]

Listen, the best translator should be your mind, but you have to train it. Until then, use Google Translator. For learning, I recomend AnkiDroid.

[BigDave]

Some more motivation, a nice candid shot from a Russian apartment party:

[Architekt]

(12-13-2012 04:58 PM)presidentcarter Wrote:  

If anyone has a problem with people traveling to see new places and meet new people (yes, girls included)...they clearly have something shoved far far up their ass.

People hate seeing other people's success when they are failing.

Russia is getting more and more exciting..

[jimukr104]

Volk do you think any translators are better than google?Google often messes things uP.if you study pimsleur you will know enough to pick up. Buy Dermo you will learn alot. It's the slang us Brooklyn guys use but there is sex talk as well. It's funny and educational.

[Vacancier Permanent]

This is the kind of stuff dreams are made of. If during our Siberian trip, I were to meet a girl like that, I'd gladly retire from the game for a while, take her with me on my trips around the world. (is this beta). lol However, I would make sure not to take her anywhere near North America.

http://www.loveme.com/invar/services/wom...=5_Tatyana

A quick question for the Russia pros: how would this girl rate on a 1-10 scale in Russia? And are girls like her pretty common or would she be among the top end?

To me, this is a perfect 10!

[presidentcarter]

(12-20-2012 03:52 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

This is the kind of stuff dreams are made of. If during our Siberian trip, I were to meet a girl like that, I'd gladly retire from the game for a while, take her with me on my trips around the world. (is this beta). lol However, I would make sure not to take her anywhere near North America.

http://www.loveme.com/invar/services/wom...=5_Tatyana

A quick question for the Russia pros: how would this girl rate on a 1-10 scale in Russia? And are girls like her pretty common or would she be among the top end?

To me, this is a perfect 10!

That's a universal 10...as in a 10 anywhere.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Mr. President,
I agree however, we all know that Russia has a different scale than the rest of the world. A 10 in the west maybe at best a 6 or 7 in Mother Russia. Hence my post asking the expert insight of Old Russia Hands in here.

[chochemonger1]

(12-20-2012 03:52 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

This is the kind of stuff dreams are made of. If during our Siberian trip, I were to meet a girl like that, I'd gladly retire from the game for a while, take her with me on my trips around the world. (is this beta). lol However, I would make sure not to take her anywhere near North America.

http://www.loveme.com/invar/services/wom...=5_Tatyana

A quick question for the Russia pros: how would this girl rate on a 1-10 scale in Russia? And are girls like her pretty common or would she be among the top end?

To me, this is a perfect 10!

Yeah VP, I would retire from game for awhile with her too. Though 2 or 3 months tops.
Hard to think a girl like that would be single. You would have to steal her away from some Russian, Im sure.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Yes compadre, who wouldn't really? But somehow, I got the feeling that while very beautiful to us, Westerners, in Russia, she might be a dime a dozen. I'm particularly looking for our Russia resident experts in here, Vorkuta and Hooligan Harry to chip on this. So guys, what's the verdict on that?

Spasiba!

[pozdnyshev]

She's a 7, but no where near a ten. Girls like this are dimes a dozen in Russia. Remember, most girls who are not fat, have long hair, can easily put up some makeup, wear a nice skirt, and look like this. Her face is nothing special. It's just that in the US, women have gotten so fat that any girl who is thin is instantly a 8, and if she even have remotely a nice figure will be a 9.

[chochemonger1]

(12-20-2012 08:06 PM)pozdnyshev Wrote:  

She's a 7, but no where near a ten. Girls like this are dimes a dozen in Russia. Remember, most girls who are not fat, have long hair, can easily put up some makeup, wear a nice skirt, and look like this. Her face is nothing special. It's just that in the US, women have gotten so fat that any girl who is thin is instantly a 8, and if she even have remotely a nice figure will be a 9.

Friend, you could argue she is an 8 or 7.5 maybe. But if you think there are many true 9s or 10s in Russia, that are 2 points above her league.....send us pics to compare. But until then, I Dont Believe The Hype.

[Icarus]

(12-20-2012 08:06 PM)pozdnyshev Wrote:  

She's a 7, but no where near a ten. Girls like this are dimes a dozen in Russia.

I agree. Tatyana is pretty, but not spectacular in any way. Too much makeup and peroxide. Too synthetic. In my humble opinion, the following Russian / Ukrainian models are of higher caliber than Tatyana:

• Gyana
  

• Katya
  

[jimukr104]

(12-21-2012 08:58 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 08:06 PM)pozdnyshev Wrote:  

She's a 7, but no where near a ten. Girls like this are dimes a dozen in Russia. Remember, most girls who are not fat, have long hair, can easily put up some makeup, wear a nice skirt, and look like this. Her face is nothing special. It's just that in the US, women have gotten so fat that any girl who is thin is instantly a 8, and if she even have remotely a nice figure will be a 9.

Friend, you could argue she is an 8 or 7.5 maybe. But if you think there are many true 9s or 10s in Russia, that are 2 points above her league.....send us pics to compare. But until then, I Dont Believe The Hype.

Dude those girls are avg, for FSU. my pops use to be in the club business, you guys rate girls different. A 10 means top 10%, 9 would be the top 20% minus the 10's. That's how he use to rate girls and since he judged beauty contests I will go by his rating not the PUA STANDARD. In FSU since 90% of women are slim, dress similar and even put on similar cosmetics you will see that the avg girl is attractive and the only differences between them and 6 's and 7's is preference. It is easier to spot a 9 or 10 because those are the really standout ones who are perfect ,even without the cosmetics. But the differences are not extreme since ALL the girls start looking similar. Ironically enough 9's and 10's use to go with only rich Russians or foreigners. Since 2003-2004 it seems foreigners are not liked as much anymore in Ukraine. Not sure about Russia, but we do not have the God factor so we are stuck with the lower numbers. Thank god I pulled a 9 while still possible . I would say 9's and 10's have decent size breasts. Majority of girls are slim with small breasts. Remember the top girls drive cars or are being driven and you will not even see them, unless they are running from expensive boutique to their BMW. The rich go to exclusive places that have tinted windows and most tourist never see the top talent.

[chochemonger1]

(12-21-2012 09:12 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 08:06 PM)pozdnyshev Wrote:  

She's a 7, but no where near a ten. Girls like this are dimes a dozen in Russia.

I agree. Tatyana is pretty, but not spectacular in any way. Too much makeup and peroxide. Too synthetic. In my humble opinion, the following Russian / Ukrainian models are of higher caliber than Tatyana:

• Gyana
  

• Katya
  

I haven´t seen Tatyana naked like the two others (who are fine by the way), so hard to judge her body that well. But to me, her face is better than Katyas. And if Gyana is better, it is not by much.
Any way these are minor points. If one is getting any of these girls regulary in Siberia, he will be a happy man.

[Icarus]

What about this Katya from Novosibirsk?

Not only is she a model, she seems to be a perfect wife as well.

[chochemonger1]

(12-21-2012 09:57 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

What about this Katya from Novosibirsk?

Not only is she a model, she seems to be a perfect wife as well.

Katya has a very sweet, pretty, girlish and innocent face. Seems more like girlfriend material than Tatyana, who I just want to bang the shit out of, every day for 2 or 3 weeks.

[chochemonger1]

By the way I was talking about the first Katya, not the one from Novosibirsk.