[rationalize_this]

This a thread solely for girls you HAVE NOT BANGED... yet.

RULES: Include Details from Date #1/#2/(god forbid #3) such as nationality of the lizard, hottness (1-10), venue, dialogue, banter, and everything else relevant leading up to escalation or close.
See Tuth's First Date Bang Recipe thread for questions.

Also, describe how the relationship or dyamic with each girl is progressing and how you are maintaining attraction/interest after the date. Feel free to post text interactions post date.

NOTE: None of this Hetexted.com shit. (She texted me "xxx" What does this mean???" = BETA

[The Fantasist]

I'll kick this off then as I had a fucked up date last night:

I street approached a blonde girl in my town centre the other day ( 22yrs,7.5,blonde) whilst day gaming. After some flirtatious texting we arranged to meet up last night.

So I meet her in the centre of town at 9pm and we walk to a local bar 'Bar Release',it's quiet apart from a table of drunken fatties and a few random lone wolf guys. She has driven into town so I'm already thinking escalation will be hard if she is driving and hence not drinking. She seemed quite shy and I had to do most of the talking as we walked to the bar. Get in and I order us a couple glasses of wine and we take a seat by the window as I said it would be fun to laugh at our town's chavs walking past. She turns out to be very smart ( just got a first at the London school of Economics ) and incredibly well spoken which I like. However she is very reserved so I'm having trouble bantering with her, I also understand we are from different sides of the tracks so I have to bullshit a little to get her to relate. Her parents own holiday homes abroad,are mutli millionaires and have bought her a flat on the King's Road in London,I don't come from that lifestyle. Anyway I move into comfort and she opens up more telling me about her Russian ex and her travels to Moscow and Nizhni Novgorod. So we have found some mutual ground that we can talk about,she starts showing some of her humour and relaxing as she drinks more glasses of wine ( I don't ask how she will drive but see it as a good sign ). The thing is although I had moved my seat next to her ( "music is too loud,I can't hear you well" ) and I start initiating more touching,she is giving me little sign that she is attracted to me or interested in fucking me the same night. So because I wanted to know if it was on or not I said "I want to kiss you now",it wasn't the most natural point in a seduction to say it since I'd not entered seduction phase yet but I had to test her willingness . And so I did,but she wouldn't open her mouth. That's ok,at least I knew it was possibly on if I played it right. So she goes to the bar to get a couple of cocktails,comes back and I pull her onto my lap and go for a full on make out. She's into it,grinding my cock with her ass as I put my hand up her top. Random dudes in the pub looking at me and smiling,giving me subliminal high fives. I start talking in her ear about how I want to take her home and explore her body with my tongue,laying it on thick whilst my hand was down the back of her trousers. We make out more with my hand down her jeans,finish our cocktails and then I say lets go.
( time in pub about 2 hours )

She seems drunk but insists on driving back to mine. Get to mine and tell her to choose some music whilst I pour some drinks. She pulls Bowie's 'Hunky Dory' out of the rack and puts it on. I thought 'cool choice' but then she admitted she only chose it because she likes the name of the album. Typical. So we sit on the sofa,make out,drink some wine and I strip her down. She has an incredible body. Not stick thin as I usually like but strong without any fat and some perked breasts with nice nipples.

I lead her upstairs to my bedroom and offer her a shower but she just wants to get it on. Cool. So I'm going down on her ( shaved ),fingering her and she's getting moist and moaning. I go to get a condom and swallow a sachet of generic Viagra and go back into her where we switch to 69. All good until she notices a tattoo of a girl's name on my hip. Disaster. Total mood change. "Who is Katya?" she wants to know. I tell her I'll explain in the morning but she sits up and demands to know. Fuck sake. So I tell her the truth that it's my daughter's name and she should not worry about it and lye down again. But now she is asking why I hid it from her,the fact I had a kid. So I tell her she is being melodramatic and that I never hid it from her,and if she'd asked the question earlier I'd have told her. Then,get this, she asks "well why didn't you have it terminated?"!!!! What the fuck! I'm now hard,full of Viagra,about to bang and she is giving me this shit test. So she starts saying she has never slept with a guy with a child and that she saw a future for us (?!) and that she has only had three partners before and that sleeping with a guy with a kid wasn't what she expected for her fourth! So I can't be arsed arguing or convincing her to let me bang her so I say "get your things and go,you are disrespecting me with your shit". I get out of bed and gather her clothes and she dresses acting as though I'm an asshole and how I should see it from a woman's perspective (!! ). I open my door and she tries to kiss me goodbye,I close the door on her. Weirdo. She knocks on my door but I didn't open it.

Funny evening.

As I am writing this I have just received a text from her,these is her exact words:

"I apologise for the way I reacted last night. I was completely out of order and had too much to drink. I regret what I said and truly sorry. I like you '.....',I had a really great evening talking to you....Feel free to drop by and tease if you'd like to see me?"

Nuts.

[Pacesetter20]

At least she apologized, I'd be tempted to give her a second chance.

[littleG]

Respect. Bitch sounds like she's got potential. I respect the way you handled her bullshit. That was one hell of a "freeze-out. Although, in the moment, I doubt you were thinking "okay time to freeze her out now." Bitch was just being a bitch, and you weren't having that, respect. Are you going to at least pursue the notch?


-PJ

[The Fantasist]

I don't know,I was thinking of sending a text now saying "if you want to apologise come here now and finish what we started,otherwise forget about me". I'm not really too bothered either way tbh.

[_GQ_]

Invite her to your place, fuck the shit out of her, and kick her out again.

[Lothario]

Well done Vorkuta, .......... Another example of when bishes don't put out, throwing them out should be the Standard Operating Procedure. Vorkuta held his ground and the bish turned around and is now asking for it......

It's a done deal, just got to do her now. Give her a second chance, Invite her over, she brings the food and you provide the wine and ambiance of your apt or any other plan that you can come up with ..........

[Menace]

Vorkuta, not to derail, but don't you have pix of your daughter in your place? Or was she just too drunk to notice.

[rationalize_this]

She actually seems like one of those few "good girls". I know they seem like unicorns today but
1) She comes from a wealthy background
2) She's smart and educated
3) She's only had 4 partners
4) She apologized
Maybe I'm wrong?
I would have gone beta on her, and most likely succeeded for the bang. I don't know about you guys, but after 69ing, and fingering this chick, I'd be so turned on I'd say ANYTHING to get the bang at that point. You don't always have to hold frame. Sometimes its excessive. Nonetheless, you choose to handle it this way, and props to you if you get the bang the 2nd time you see her.

[The Fantasist]

(10-19-2012 10:45 AM)Menace Wrote:  

Vorkuta, not to derail, but don't you have pix of your daughter in your place? Or was she just too drunk to notice.

Get this...Not only do I have pictures everywhere,I took her into my daughter's bedroom to bang ( my bedroom is being decorated and my daughter doesn't live with me ) and she still didn't realize. There were Teddy bears and a rocking horse in the bedroom and photos on the wall of her but I suppose in the semi dark and her drunk state it never clicked with her.

I could easily have gotten round the tattoo issue by saying that the name was of my ex best friend who died or some bullshit but it's my daughter and I refuse to be ashamed or hide tbe fact I have one even if it might cost me a bang.

Yes guys I think you're all right,I'll go for the bang.

[snoop]

(10-19-2012 11:02 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(10-19-2012 10:45 AM)Menace Wrote:  

Vorkuta, not to derail, but don't you have pix of your daughter in your place? Or was she just too drunk to notice.

Get this...Not only do I have pictures everywhere,I took her into my daughter's bedroom to bang ( my bedroom is being decorated and my daughter doesn't live with me ) and she still didn't realize. There were Teddy bears and a rocking horse in the bedroom and photos on the wall of her but I suppose in the semi dark and her drunk state it never clicked with her.

I could easily have gotten round the tattoo issue by saying that the name was of my ex best friend who died or some bullshit but it's my daughter and I refuse to be ashamed or hide tbe fact I have one even if it might cost me a bang.

Yes guys I think you're all right,I'll go for the bang.

If you do that and then ditch her right away it sounds like you need to be prepared for her to unleash some serious crazy on you

[rationalize_this]

Belongs in notch thread.

[Lothario]

Alright guys I am going to jump from Approach thread to Date thread as this Date resulted from this Approach post # 388 and I need the input of forum brethren to seal the deal.

Brief Recap: Korean University student, 20 yrs old, eager to try the new worldly things that a mature man has to offer.

I Approached and number closed day before yesterday and set a date for today, I called today to set up a time and place and she picked up on 3rd ring, good sign , girls usually don't pick up the phone or flake on me a lot. we set up a time and ask her to text me her address and I will pick her up, She texts me right away.

Date: I Pick her up and found out that she has never been to a Wine Bar or any other bar and is under 20, I was thinking in double time to where can i take her where we can drink, thought of a restaurant that I have good reputation at and should not have aproblem with her drinking underage, she really wanted to try some wine.

We get to the restaurant and I give her a 5 min crash course on wine, get her a white and a red for myself , she enjoyed it , we ordered food and left in about an hour, she started relaxing a bit and started with asking me questions about my family, career, hobbies, music etc...., I framed her on cooking, her being fun and friendly or not , etc. I teased her a bit, which she really enjoyed and kept hitting my arm everytime I joked, I started touching her, She didn't refuse the touch but I could wasn't really comfortale with it either.

We go walk around the block to see if we can get in somewhere , all the places had ID check at gates, well we get back to my car drive about a mile to another Pizza/ Bar place where we get champagne, She really rgot relaxed here and I leaned her body into me and she melted into me, I tried for a Kiss and got the cheek.

I couldn't have taken her back to mine , Asked her lets get a bottle of wine and drink at your place, she said she would love to but her room mate is there, She does go home on someweekends and may be we can when she is away.

I drop her by her dorm, didn't want to go up because of the room mate and went for the kiss but she kissed me on cheek again and I pulled her in and said we do two here and Kissed the other cheek. She told me she had fun and I told her we should do it again when I had sometime....

My Analysis: This one might be a Virgin and may take some time, Also my Logistics are not tight, I can bang either at her place when roommate is out of town OR take her on a hiking trip and bang in My car or get a buddies Apt to bang.

She is on the verge of getting wild as she told me she wants to enjoy some besides just the studies as she doen't know " If she will be alive next year or not" also mentioned "Carpe Diem" and "you only live once"

Boy..... does it feel good to attract a girl half my age

Questions for you guys :

1. I know here was thread on the forum earlier where specific angles to game the 18- 21 yr girls were discussed, Can someone kindly post the link.

2. She wants to enjoy wine but can not buy herself because of underage, Is there any legal problem to feeding Alcohol to underage girls ? or is it ok to do it if at my place or hers ?

4. I will be out of town for about a week visiting emechistan, Should I go for second date in the next 7 days or wait till about 2 weeks for the second date when my Logistcs would be better ?

3. and finally what should be my next play here ..... (Go easy on me guys, My Logistics aren't tight and she might be a Virgin, Still think I can get it done within 3 dates)

[The Fantasist]

See her in the next seven days,definitely! Things change so quickly,she could meet another guy before you return from your trip,could lose interest,go to a club and get fucked. Whilst she is warm to you go for date two to cement your place in her life a little bit more.

How should you play it on date two: take her to a club,get her drunk and go for the bang ( could she get into a club? I'm in the UK so things work differently here ). Regardless you want to get those inhibitions down and alcohol is good for that. At the very least before you leave for your trip you want to have swapped saliva. Invite her to a club and ask a friend to let you have his place for the night ( I take girls to hotels but she might see it as seedy? ). She sounds like she's ready to try the wild side: make sure you're the cool older guy who introduces her to it.

I'm pulling for you!

[Screwston]

I went on a date with a 43 year old cop that I met online. More details tomorrow since Im on my phone.

[kazz]

(10-19-2012 03:27 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

I'll kick this off then as I had a fucked up date last night:

I street approached a blonde girl in my town centre the other day ( 22yrs,7.5,blonde) whilst day gaming. After some flirtatious texting we arranged to meet up last night.

So I meet her in the centre of town at 9pm and we walk to a local bar 'Bar Release',it's quiet apart from a table of drunken fatties and a few random lone wolf guys. She has driven into town so I'm already thinking escalation will be hard if she is driving and hence not drinking. She seemed quite shy and I had to do most of the talking as we walked to the bar. Get in and I order us a couple glasses of wine and we take a seat by the window as I said it would be fun to laugh at our town's chavs walking past. She turns out to be very smart ( just got a first at the London school of Economics ) and incredibly well spoken which I like. However she is very reserved so I'm having trouble bantering with her, I also understand we are from different sides of the tracks so I have to bullshit a little to get her to relate. Her parents own holiday homes abroad,are mutli millionaires and have bought her a flat on the King's Road in London,I don't come from that lifestyle. Anyway I move into comfort and she opens up more telling me about her Russian ex and her travels to Moscow and Nizhni Novgorod. So we have found some mutual ground that we can talk about,she starts showing some of her humour and relaxing as she drinks more glasses of wine ( I don't ask how she will drive but see it as a good sign ). The thing is although I had moved my seat next to her ( "music is too loud,I can't hear you well" ) and I start initiating more touching,she is giving me little sign that she is attracted to me or interested in fucking me the same night. So because I wanted to know if it was on or not I said "I want to kiss you now",it wasn't the most natural point in a seduction to say it since I'd not entered seduction phase yet but I had to test her willingness . And so I did,but she wouldn't open her mouth. That's ok,at least I knew it was possibly on if I played it right. So she goes to the bar to get a couple of cocktails,comes back and I pull her onto my lap and go for a full on make out. She's into it,grinding my cock with her ass as I put my hand up her top. Random dudes in the pub looking at me and smiling,giving me subliminal high fives. I start talking in her ear about how I want to take her home and explore her body with my tongue,laying it on thick whilst my hand was down the back of her trousers. We make out more with my hand down her jeans,finish our cocktails and then I say lets go.
( time in pub about 2 hours )

She seems drunk but insists on driving back to mine. Get to mine and tell her to choose some music whilst I pour some drinks. She pulls Bowie's 'Hunky Dory' out of the rack and puts it on. I thought 'cool choice' but then she admitted she only chose it because she likes the name of the album. Typical. So we sit on the sofa,make out,drink some wine and I strip her down. She has an incredible body. Not stick thin as I usually like but strong without any fat and some perked breasts with nice nipples.

I lead her upstairs to my bedroom and offer her a shower but she just wants to get it on. Cool. So I'm going down on her ( shaved ),fingering her and she's getting moist and moaning. I go to get a condom and swallow a sachet of generic Viagra and go back into her where we switch to 69. All good until she notices a tattoo of a girl's name on my hip. Disaster. Total mood change. "Who is Katya?" she wants to know. I tell her I'll explain in the morning but she sits up and demands to know. Fuck sake. So I tell her the truth that it's my daughter's name and she should not worry about it and lye down again. But now she is asking why I hid it from her,the fact I had a kid. So I tell her she is being melodramatic and that I never hid it from her,and if she'd asked the question earlier I'd have told her. Then,get this, she asks "well why didn't you have it terminated?"!!!! What the fuck! I'm now hard,full of Viagra,about to bang and she is giving me this shit test. So she starts saying she has never slept with a guy with a child and that she saw a future for us (?!) and that she has only had three partners before and that sleeping with a guy with a kid wasn't what she expected for her fourth! So I can't be arsed arguing or convincing her to let me bang her so I say "get your things and go,you are disrespecting me with your shit". I get out of bed and gather her clothes and she dresses acting as though I'm an asshole and how I should see it from a woman's perspective (!! ). I open my door and she tries to kiss me goodbye,I close the door on her. Weirdo. She knocks on my door but I didn't open it.

Funny evening.

As I am writing this I have just received a text from her,these is her exact words:

"I apologise for the way I reacted last night. I was completely out of order and had too much to drink. I regret what I said and truly sorry. I like you '.....',I had a really great evening talking to you....Feel free to drop by and tease if you'd like to see me?"

Nuts.

hahah, funny story, was she Canadian? Yeah I say fuck her once more in the most degrading way you can; as soon as you blow your load on her face, throw her a towel tell her to get cleaned up and leave as you have stuff to do, then never speak, answer texts etc again. nice

[Lothario]

Thanks Vorkuta, Beacuse of your and Gio's Push I called her and she was eager for a second date which is set with in this week before I leave for 7 days.

Unfortunately I can not take her to a club or a proper Bar, They ID everyone here in a University town in US, I am planning again for a cool Restaurant or bowling, Have a Pre- drink, shot or Glass of wine in my Car, I am gunning for a Bang on this second date and do have few days to get my Logistics right and if I get an Apt that's where we will be going for Champagne, Movie, Music and more

[Giovonny]

Its important to get her out on that 2nd date as quickly as possible because you don't want to lose any momentum. Going away for 2 weeks would likely kill all the emotional momentum that you built up during your approach and 1st date.

Bowling sounds like a good 2nd date. It's a fun and playful activity. You better find a place to take her after bowling.

As far as drinking, one thing that I have learned to do with these under 21 girls is to prepare the alcohol before the date. Buy the alcohol and transfer it into a soda or juice bottle.

Sometimes I just take a Coke, pour out half of it, and refill that empty half with rum or jack daniels. That is an easy Jack and Coke. Or with vodka, you can just mix it with your juice in a Gatorade bottle and people will just think you are holding a Gatorade. When I'm with a under 21 girl and we wanna trip in public, this is what I do.

At the bowling alley, you probably won't need to do this. You can just walk to the bar and buy 2 drinks.

(10-20-2012 12:35 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

Questions for you guys :

1. I know here was thread on the forum earlier where specific angles to game the 18- 21 yr girls were discussed, Can someone kindly post the link.

I don't think you really have to adjust your game for this girl. Especially since she is from Korea. You already have the right formula. Date, drinks, find a room!

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2. She wants to enjoy wine but can not buy herself because of underage, Is there any legal problem to feeding Alcohol to underage girls ? or is it ok to do it if at my place or hers ?

Technically, it is illegal to provide alcohol to a minor. I don't really have to worry about that here in SF as long as the girl is over 18. I'm not sure how they view it down where you are. I don't think its anything to worry about. Just don't make a big scene in public and attract negative attention.

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4. I will be out of town for about a week visiting emechistan, Should I go for second date in the next 7 days or wait till about 2 weeks for the second date when my Logistcs would be better ?

Strike while the iron is hot.

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3. and finally what should be my next play here ..... (Go easy on me guys, My Logistics aren't tight and she might be a Virgin, Still think I can get it done within 3 dates)

2-3 little dates and find a place to bang her. After date 3, you need to be on a couch alone with her. Maybe date 4 at the latest.

Your biggest issue is finding a place to take her after dates 2 and 3.

[at350zguyy]

agree with what most are saying here and take advantage of the momentum youve built with her. a lot could happen in the time you are in emechland.

[Lothario]

Brothers I am much delighted to report that Mission " Capture South Korean Flag" is completed "

   

Hell Yeah....... I am so high right now and "this a high that Pablo Escobar couldn't sell"

Shout out and recognition to Vorkuta, Giovonny and 350 Zguy for the push to go for second date before i go away for sometime. I owe you all more then a Dinner.

Details.......

Date 2: Set a date with plans to go Bowling, I tried my best to get a Buddy's Apt but he flaked and couldn't get an Airbnb Apt either , I didn't want to get a hotel as this young 20 yr old might smell something fishy.

I had no choice and reluctantly got a hotel close the Operating Ground and left a Bottle of Wine, Cheese. My clothes , Computer, Music etc to make it look like my Place as much as I can.

Picked her up in my work clothes, She was showing her nice long white Korean Legs in short shorts , told her I got late from work and just need to swing by my place and put Jeans and Shirt on. Once outside I told her since she will not be able to drink at the Bowling place (Underage) , why don't you come in and have a Glass of wine, I will change and we will go bowling. She said fine....

My plan was to let her get comfortable with the hotel room and come back after bowling to watch a movie, Wine and Go for the Bang, Guess what we never left for bowling. She came in I poured wine, a comedy show was on TV that she liked and we were both laughing and getting giddy on wine, I went for the Kiss and to my Surprise there was no LMR whatsoever, I kept escalating and she didn't stop me.

I was so excited I couldn't believe I am in bed with a Girl half my age that I met only a week ago, I knew I was gonna go Kaboom pretty quick as I was excited just thinking about a Cute Young 20 yr old in bed with me and focused on getting a few pumps in to secure a notch. Now I knew I will last longer for the second round. Fingered her to get her to Climax....

We started watching a movie , I jumped her in the middle and this time I really enjoyed as I was relaxed and lasted a whole lot longer, Nut X 2. finish the movie., Crackers and Cheese.

She asked me would I mind dropping her off as she has class early, I Obliged and made plans for a week later.....

[u]Lesson Learned : Credit to Gio and Vorkuta.

1. College girls can be had by Guys my age, Hell Yeah .....

2. Keep the Momentum Going that has been built from Approach, Date as early as possible, and 2nd Date quickly and get the Bang. (Thanks again Gio)

3. Girls are more sluttier thatn I think of them as (Hell I thought this girl was a Virgin, She was not inexperienced in bed)

All Hail to Gaming College Girls ......... Only If my Logistics were right and Limitations weren't there ........

Thanks RVF once again.........[/u]

[Menace]

Well done Lothario! But what did you mean make it look like your place? Did she think the hotel room was your actual apartment? Must be a hotel without a facade or something.

[at350zguyy]

strong work, brother. keep these reports coming.

[Lothario]

(10-25-2012 10:56 AM)Menace Wrote:  

Well done Lothario! But what did you mean make it look like your place? Did she think the hotel room was your actual apartment? Must be a hotel without a facade or something.

Thanks Menace, Here is what I did, Found a hotel that when I bring her in we wouldn't have to go through the Lobby, Yes I got a room on the Ground floor on the back side next to a road that she didn't even noticed that we were pulling into a hotel. My car was parked about 10 feet from room's door.

I told her my Work provided us with this accomodation when I have to be near downtown as i do get calls in the middle of night and even have to go to work at night. She thinks I stay at this place about 4-5 nights a month and live about half an hour away

[The Fantasist]

Nice work buddy,I'm really pleased for you!

I agree entirely about age difference meaning little to these younger girls. 38 here and I'm still doing good with the college girls. My buddy is 52 and he is still banging nice early 20 somethings. If you don't think about it or let it bother you I guarantee 90% of young women won't either.

[Giovonny]

(10-25-2012 09:07 AM)Lothario Wrote:  

got a hotel

Wow! Get a hotel and pretend that its work related! I didn't think of that. Good one!

(10-25-2012 09:07 AM)Lothario Wrote:  

1. College girls can be had by Guys my age, Hell Yeah .....

I told you Brother!!!

10-30% of 18-21 year olds want to be with an older man!

Many of them fantasize about it!

How do I know this? Because I have approached thousands of 18-21 year olds. Most are not interested in a man in his mid 30's, but 10-30% are interested and give me every opportunity to bang them if I game them properly.

(10-25-2012 09:07 AM)Lothario Wrote:  

All Hail to Gaming College Girls

Most older guys think they have no chance with young college girls. These guys are wrong. Many college girls have told me that they like older guys because older guys are more mature, more established, have their shit together, have money to do stuff, etc.

Many young girls are instinctively drawn to older men because they sense that we are more powerful then their 19yo pimple faced classmates.

If you are an older man who believes he can't pull a college girl I only have one thing to say to you:

You have a self-defeating belief system!

I am 36 and I bang at least 2-3 18-21 year olds a year. (Without ever going out a night)

Lothario is my age and he just banged a 20yo

Banging young girls is very possible if you just get your game together and have a solid game plan.

Has anyone seen the show "Underemployed"? It's on MTV right after "Jersey Shore". I watched it the other day. It's about a group of friends who just graduated from high school or college. One of the girls gets a job in an office. She ends up fucking her older boss in his car!!! Thids is a very common fantasy among young girls. This is a show on MTV! College girls are watching this!

http://www.mtv.com/videos/underemployed-...hannelId=1

THEY WANT TO GET BANGED BY OLDER GUYS!