Serious question for the Toronto heads that say Toronto is hard:
Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?
Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?
Quote: (07-14-2012 03:58 PM)ManAbout Wrote:Have you not been following the Online Hamster Thread? It's like that everywhere, not just Toronto.
This is the problem I have with Toronto girls. I was chatting online with a 21 year old girl, probably a 7 to 7.5, nice body, slim, definitely bangable. Then she says something along the lines of "You are not my type". Fine, I am not every girl's type. I can't be. So, I asked her, "Out of curiousity, what's your type? And this was her response:
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6'5 cut as hell and damn hot
Quote: (07-14-2012 06:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Serious question for the Toronto heads that say Toronto is hard:
Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?
Quote: (07-14-2012 12:10 PM)bodmon Wrote:
i have noticed the following problems with toronto in my year and a half of on and off cold approaching at night, some of which are confirmations of the observations of other people, others my own observations:
- low quality women
the people here are just aesthetically middling and mediocre and the women are accordingly so. i disagree with anybody who thinks that canada is untouched by american-style obesity. there is a lot of bulge. another thing is the demographic element. if you're a white guy or non-white guy who goes after and prefers white girls then you will notice that toronto has a lot of non-whites (namely east, southeast, and south asians) who make (in tandem with the abovementioned factors of obesity and mediocrity) that "cute blonde" some kind of precious gem in toronto, kind of like how roosh has described DC as being, whereas in a place like LA/socal she'd be a totally common sight. i think my recent trip to LA has really inflated my standards lol. an LA 6 is practically like a toronto 8.
- cougar problem
there are just way too many old-ass women taking up space in nighttime venues here. what are they doing? they need to get the fuck out. i'm still unsure as to where the 19-23 year old cohort regularly finds itself. the richmond street club district? and yet i'm told that place is dead or dying. i need to check out places like This Is London again lol.
- everywhere is a sausagefest
what can i say
- the competition
maybe in hipster bars guys are meek, but everywhere else, that is, non-niche/scene places, toronto dudes approach a fair bit. this is not roosh's poland or estonia.
- not a strong hookup culture, much less ONS culture
i remember following this dallas-based pick up guru who said something along the lines of "if a woman is out on the town at night, then somewhere deep inside of her is the desire to meet a new man". toronto has shown me that that's total bullshit. there are a lot of groups, a lot of wholly uninterested women.
- pre-approach IOIs and women approaching
i feel like in toronto you need to be a 8+/10 guy to ever get these things. the custom suit i wear doesn't have as strong as an effect as i'd like it to. women in the streets don't make eye contact and just stare straight ahead. it's kind of bizarre. i've tried walking while staring at a fixed point in the distance and i can't do it. i'm a human being, i like to take in my surroundings.
all of that said, i am still a beginner/intermediate guy. i need to work on my game much more, and once i do that i will make out much better no doubt. and i have yet to try daygame.
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Quote: (07-14-2012 06:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Serious question for the Toronto heads that say Toronto is hard:
Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?
Toronto has a bunch of strips. Most of the stuff goes on in the West end but even me in Downtown East I have a quiet strip with 4 lounges that I can walk to in 5 min (Local, 751, etc..), a 15 min cab ride in good traffic to main strips.
Logistics is not the main issue. Many kats own condos in Cityplace or on King or of Queen. It does indeed help to be centered near the action but once you get the girl in the Cab it does not matter where your going as longs as its somewhat close.
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Also, I see people saying that this is the only site where people are saying that Toronto is tough. This is not true
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There is a reason that Toronto is one of the birthplaces of PUA, with Mystery et al. Also, Tyler from RSD is from Kingston which is not too far.
Quote: (07-15-2012 09:13 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
I am saying I have never heard anyone in real life say Toronto is hard.
My friends I went with, say it's easy.
My friend there right now making a movie there says it's easy.
Everyone I know that has been says its easy.
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There is a reason that Toronto is one of the birthplaces of PUA, with Mystery et al. Also, Tyler from RSD is from Kingston which is not too far.
I think this proves more than anything that there is a problem with Toronto guys.
Quote: (07-15-2012 11:13 AM)tapanar Wrote:
Quote: (07-15-2012 09:13 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
I am saying I have never heard anyone in real life say Toronto is hard.
My friends I went with, say it's easy.
My friend there right now making a movie there says it's easy.
Everyone I know that has been says its easy.
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There is a reason that Toronto is one of the birthplaces of PUA, with Mystery et al. Also, Tyler from RSD is from Kingston which is not too far.
I think this proves more than anything that there is a problem with Toronto guys.
I'm not going to argue with you, but you draw your conclusion upon an unrepresentative sample of opinions (those of your friends). Instead of just visiting, try moving to Toronto. You will probably still do fine. But what Perseus, I and others are saying is that living permanently in Toronto isn't worth it if women are on top of your list.
On the other hand, if you believe that your job is the main purpose in your life, then Toronto might be a very good city to live in.
Visiting for 2 weeks is one thing, living somewhere permanently is completely different.
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But what Perseus, I and others are saying is that living permanently in Toronto isn't worth it if women are on top of your list.
Quote: (07-15-2012 01:38 PM)Moma Wrote:
G-manifesto, bust out a detailed data sheet from start to close on the spots in Toronto that you and your boys went to and when you closed the lizards.
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Describe openers, closers etc.
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Describe the race of lizards also.
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I think you and your boys are Spanish, right? Did you close any lizards with S and S (Spanish and Smoke game)?
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To quote G's statement, he said, if Toronto is so shyt, stop fcuking whining and move the fcuk out of there.
So I take a G's statement and I bounce.
Quote: (07-15-2012 09:13 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Quote: (07-14-2012 09:07 PM)kosko Wrote:
Quote: (07-14-2012 06:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Serious question for the Toronto heads that say Toronto is hard:
Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?
Toronto has a bunch of strips. Most of the stuff goes on in the West end but even me in Downtown East I have a quiet strip with 4 lounges that I can walk to in 5 min (Local, 751, etc..), a 15 min cab ride in good traffic to main strips.
Logistics is not the main issue. Many kats own condos in Cityplace or on King or of Queen. It does indeed help to be centered near the action but once you get the girl in the Cab it does not matter where your going as longs as its somewhat close.
You say that "Logistics is not the main issue" but no one has answered "yes" to my question.
It is hard to be The King of New York, when you live in Paterson, NJ.
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Also, I see people saying that this is the only site where people are saying that Toronto is tough. This is not true
No one said "other sites". I don't read "other sites".
I am saying I have never heard anyone in real life say Toronto is hard.
My friends I went with, say it's easy.
My friend there right now making a movie there says it's easy.
Everyone I know that has been says its easy.
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There is a reason that Toronto is one of the birthplaces of PUA, with Mystery et al. Also, Tyler from RSD is from Kingston which is not too far.
I think this proves more than anything that there is a problem with Toronto guys.
Quote: (07-15-2012 03:42 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?
Quote: (07-15-2012 06:27 PM)Moma Wrote:
@g-manifesto's question: There are several different nightspot areas. I live a short cab ride from the club district yes 5-7 mins and I also live across the road from another main club (which I closed a rasta lizard) and also 5 mins walk from another main club.
So yes, I am in the heat of action.
Quote: (07-15-2012 07:07 PM)bigxxx Wrote:
Anyone who blows through here for a weekend can have the time of their life. Ive had insane weekends/nights etc. also. Not like ish doesn't happen here.
Quote: (07-15-2012 07:14 PM)ManAbout Wrote:It sucks but logistics are everything. Poon can fall apart in a cab ride over 5 minutes after drinking. I live maybe 10 miles from Clearwater beach and I know without a room there last night it would have been real tricky to get one of the girls to venture back with me. Ten miles with a buzzed girl is about the same as taking a sober one cross country.
Quote: (07-15-2012 03:42 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?
Why do you keep repeating this? So, if one does not live 5-7 mins from the club district, and I would estimate that the vast majority of single men in toronto don't, then what? What is your solution? Move closer or STFU because it's your own fault?
Have you been out in New York or London? How many people live within 5-7 minutes of the clubs in those cities?
If you are out somewhere in Covent Garden and you pull a girl, it will take you at least half and hour to get her from there to your pad in Kensington for example. You can't get anywhere in London in 5-7 minutes, it takes longer than that to hail a cab.
Toronto is a fairly compact city. In 20 mins, with no traffic, as at 3 am, you could be at the far end of the city. In 30 to 40 mins you are at the end of the suburbs. In an hour and a half you are in fucking USA. This is not New York where it takes you an hour just to cross a damn bridge. Once you get a girl into a cab, she's not going to know whether the cab ride was 10 mins or 20 mins.
Not everybody can afford to get a $500 a night hotel room on top of the club. So, for the 99% of toronto men that can't do that, I guess they are fucked.
Quote: (07-15-2012 08:11 PM)el mechanico Wrote:
Quote: (07-15-2012 07:14 PM)ManAbout Wrote:It sucks but logistics are everything. Poon can fall apart in a cab ride over 5 minutes after drinking. I live maybe 10 miles from Clearwater beach and I know without a room there last night it would have been real tricky to get one of the girls to venture back with me. Ten miles with a buzzed girl is about the same as taking a sober one cross country.
Quote: (07-15-2012 03:42 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?
Why do you keep repeating this? So, if one does not live 5-7 mins from the club district, and I would estimate that the vast majority of single men in toronto don't, then what? What is your solution? Move closer or STFU because it's your own fault?
Have you been out in New York or London? How many people live within 5-7 minutes of the clubs in those cities?
If you are out somewhere in Covent Garden and you pull a girl, it will take you at least half and hour to get her from there to your pad in Kensington for example. You can't get anywhere in London in 5-7 minutes, it takes longer than that to hail a cab.
Toronto is a fairly compact city. In 20 mins, with no traffic, as at 3 am, you could be at the far end of the city. In 30 to 40 mins you are at the end of the suburbs. In an hour and a half you are in fucking USA. This is not New York where it takes you an hour just to cross a damn bridge. Once you get a girl into a cab, she's not going to know whether the cab ride was 10 mins or 20 mins.
Not everybody can afford to get a $500 a night hotel room on top of the club. So, for the 99% of toronto men that can't do that, I guess they are fucked.
I add in DUI cost and go for the win setting up camp where the puss is at.
Quote: (07-15-2012 08:11 PM)el mechanico Wrote:
It sucks but logistics are everything.
Quote: (07-15-2012 08:37 PM)Perseus Wrote:I'm talking about in your own neighborhood. Don't blow your cool when 99% of the work has been done. This has nothing to do with travel.
Quote: (07-15-2012 08:11 PM)el mechanico Wrote:
Quote: (07-15-2012 07:14 PM)ManAbout Wrote:It sucks but logistics are everything. Poon can fall apart in a cab ride over 5 minutes after drinking. I live maybe 10 miles from Clearwater beach and I know without a room there last night it would have been real tricky to get one of the girls to venture back with me. Ten miles with a buzzed girl is about the same as taking a sober one cross country.
Quote: (07-15-2012 03:42 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?
Why do you keep repeating this? So, if one does not live 5-7 mins from the club district, and I would estimate that the vast majority of single men in toronto don't, then what? What is your solution? Move closer or STFU because it's your own fault?
Have you been out in New York or London? How many people live within 5-7 minutes of the clubs in those cities?
If you are out somewhere in Covent Garden and you pull a girl, it will take you at least half and hour to get her from there to your pad in Kensington for example. You can't get anywhere in London in 5-7 minutes, it takes longer than that to hail a cab.
Toronto is a fairly compact city. In 20 mins, with no traffic, as at 3 am, you could be at the far end of the city. In 30 to 40 mins you are at the end of the suburbs. In an hour and a half you are in fucking USA. This is not New York where it takes you an hour just to cross a damn bridge. Once you get a girl into a cab, she's not going to know whether the cab ride was 10 mins or 20 mins.
Not everybody can afford to get a $500 a night hotel room on top of the club. So, for the 99% of toronto men that can't do that, I guess they are fucked.
I add in DUI cost and go for the win setting up camp where the puss is at.
I dunno about you guys, but a poon that falls apart in a cab ride in 5 minutes! is frankly not worth the hassle for me personally. I'll give it my best shot, throw my best game, from beginning to the end, whether the end is successful or not, beyond that, its a crap shoot.
I understand logistics are crucial, but ManAbout has a point, in which not many can afford a base or operations near all the action. What are these men gonna do?
IMO having YOUR OWN place, within 15-20 min cab ride of night life is optimum, and should be affordable in many cities, as the closer you get to downtown core of a city, the more expensive real estate becomes.
Again, beyond having my own, clean, nicely decorated place, within a decent distance, i'm not gonna blame logistics for "poon falling apart in the cab", nor am i gonna blame my game at that point, just dump the bitch on the side walk, and go out the night after. As simple as that.
This is with regard to those residing permanently in their respective countries/cities. 1
I haven't experienced the "Traveling Playboy" life style.....YET!