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Minsk, Belarus Data Sheet
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Minsk, Belarus Data Sheet

First of all I tried to focus on the real deal : woman & game, if you want specific info on visa, Belarusian ruble (really worth to know) and other typical travel stuff visit the following site:

http://wikitravel.org/en/Belarus

It’s my first data sheet posted here so I decided to write something about myself to let you know better what you are dealing here witch. I’m 25 year old, 184 cm/ 80 kg (I work out), dark hair, I get a lot of compliments from girls about my looks, and I’m pretty confident = I have the balls to come over and I don’t fear rejection, but that’s not what matters. I’d say that I’m a FSU veteran, with fluent Russian and game which was successively improving through last couple of years, mostly in Ukraine, Russia and obviously Poland. Here are my thoughts on my first trip to Minsk in Belarus during past June. I was accompanied with my Ukrainian friend ,business partner but also a guy with game unlike my second mate from Poland with no Russian and no game whatsoever but I thought I’d be fun and I’ll wing him up.

THE TRAVEL
I had to wait for my single, personal Belarusian visa for a whole week (25 EUR). We started off from Kraków on Thursday afternoon and decided to use a car (friend volunteered to drive).Things were really going good, M1 Highway from polish border to Minsk is a road which is almost impossible to find in Ukraine or western Russia. But we decided to see the local life a bit, therefore we left the highway just for a 50 km trip. If u think that Ukraine is ghetto, than you should see this. The infrastructure is in a post soviet mess, the local roads are probably the worst I’ve ever seen in EE (mostly gravel).73 % of Belarusian population is urbanized, and at that time I clearly knew why, cuz If I had to live in Belarusian village I’d probably kill myself. The national average wage here is 340 USD = 270 EUR, that’s almost the same as in Ukraine (260 EUR) a bit less than in Russia (360 EUR) and 3 times less than in Poland (810 EUR). The inflation in Belarus in 2011 reached 108% can you even imagine that? It’s worth to add that Belarus is not a democratic country. It’s governed by the great dictator Alexander Lukashenko, who is constantly isolating Belarus from the rest of the world (except from Russia) and can already tell you this will come across in contacts with women. As we were passing by shithole after shithole my enthusiasm was going down stairs. I guess that in my friend’s black Merc CLS with Ukrainian license plate we looked like a Ukrainian government or mafia to the locals. It’s better to use train or just aircraft. After almost 10 hours of driving we reached Minsk. Thursday/Friday night, 2 hours after midnight. But there was no chance of hitting the city, we all were exhausted and my only dream was to finally lay down in bed.

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Fuck yea Belarus rocks...Nah was kidding...


THE CITY
1.8 million inhabitants , size of Warsaw, biggest in Belarus, capital city. Was exactly how I imagined it : post soviet architecture with lame statues, soviet city planning, sort of gloomy. It’s not even closed to the Kiev or Moscow in terms of prestige (but It a bit cleaner, I give them that much), you probably not going to find famous western brands here as well. Minsk isn’t a good place for investments either, simple because the free market rules don’t work here like they should especially for an outside investor, besides the country is corrupted (thank u Mr. president). Next interesting thing is that Minsk is probably the least visited European capital (due to political isolation, visas etc), therefore is the least westernized FSU capital. The results of this speak for themselves: ability of using English among Belarusians is even worst that in Russia or Ukraine. Couldn’t find the official numbers but from my short experience there I’d say that over 85% of population isn’t familiar with English, including young people, so those of you who don’t speak Russian are going to have a hard times there. On the bride side, Minsk is pretty damn cheap when it comes to petrol, smokes and alcohols (2 to even 5 times less than in PL). When it comes to accommodation & hotels things might get very different , cabs are as cheap as the petrol is. Alcohol is allowed to be consumed in the streets. Interesting thing is that under ages (less than 18) are not allowed to be alone in the streets of Minsk after 23.00. Oh yes and famous Militia, if you are familiar with FSU you probably know that it’s better to avoid those guys, simply because they like to play games with foreigners, especially with other races, and they are pretty much everywhere and they do not speak engilsh.

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Minsk, saturday afternoon


DAY GAME
I’m gonna say this first off, I’m not a big fan of day game. Simply because I’m busy at work/travel during the whole week and don’t have time for that, I’m a typical night owl, so I didn’t focused on day game. But I can tell you the best places to do it : city centre square (lots of bored talent there), main street Prospekt Nezavisimosti (most famous shopping street) , amusements parks which are located all over the city or try to hit one of the couple of city’s Parks where in sunny days people are looking for shelter from heat. But trust me day game will be much harder here than in Poland, Russia or even Ukraine.

BELARUSIAN LADS
Eastern Slavic guys are the worst looking lads (in Europe) I know. Seriously, there is a huge difference between the appearance of western and eastern Slavs. You can separate easily for example Slovak from Russian by just looking at his face. Those guys are pretty much the same that in RUS/UKR (If u ever been there) it means that they dress terribly, got no sense of style, and their looks don’t really matter to them. However, if you were in FSU before, you probably know that in the clubs things can get very different (especially in the most prestigious ones) and your opponents will be rich, well dressed kids powered by oligarch-money of their parents. But the typical Belarusian guy from the street is just like I said earlier, plus he’s probably working his ass off during the week for shit money. I really felt like a celebrity there just with my casual clothes. It’s surely an advantage for day game, but back to Belarusians, they have no game. Their only game is a ‘game’ very common in all FSU countries : get drunk & try my luck. Average height is about 175 -180. They are rather passive, not really into cockblocking, up to a point when you try to pick up women that’s already taken, then things can get very nasty especially when they are intoxicated. But my overall impressions was surprisingly good : when introduced by some chick, they were very friendly, even called me a Polish comrade and offered me a vodka which I ofc couldn’t refuse to drink (that would be offensive).

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Perfect example - Belarusian chick and ... her boyfriend


THE WOMEN
Pros:
Typical Slavic type of beauty with all its features, including perfect, long legs, hairs from blond to brunette (even more natural blonde babes than in Ukraine IMO), and other things which were discussed on this forum over zillion times and I don’t really wanna waste my time describing it over and over again or making some lame and idiotic generalizations, all I can say that their overall physical type is much more closer to the Ukrainian or even Polish than Russian. They dress just like expected. Height from 165 even to 180 + high heels). Other thing I noticed is there’s almost no obesity problem, almost all women in clubs were fit and feminine, looks like McDonald’s 0 – Lukashenko 1. Average girl in Minsk club is around 6 which is very good. There were tones of cute, nice looking 6 and 7 college girls, but I didn’t really bother, I got really high standards and I thought I had to try the very best of what Minsk got to offer, so I was approaching decent 8’s and above only and believe me there was plenty of them. From my point of view they are true sweethearts, all girls I talked to were truly interested in what I got to say even if it felt lame for me. I felt like a foreigner that comes to Poland, talks literal shit and somehow it always seem to work for him cuz the girl actually liked that stuff, now I got evidence on my own that this is actually working for a guy abroad, and this was truly something new comparing to Russia or Ukraine where if you try to pick up a 9 in a decent club, you can’t spill out this kind of bullshit. Next noticeable thing was that the girls weren’t interested in materiality and looks (in Russia, a 9 will notice your wristwatch, clothes etc) so it’s another feature of Belarusian beauties, which clearly is closer to the polish girls.

Cons:
If you were already booking your flight to Minsk, you might want to read this as well. The weakest part of their body is clearly the face, I’ve seen so many superb-looking, tall women with a model figure, but when I saw the face it was like a straight right punch from Vladimir Klitschko right in my balls. There are no chances of picking up anything without just a basic Russian. Those chicks cannot talk English. Period. I talked to around 10 - 15 girls during the whole weekend and even if she was claiming that she speaks English, and I was using simple basic words, the conversation was going nowhere but downhill, until I started speaking in Russian. Maybe some younger, high school girls ( 20 and younger) were able to speak in English better but I’m very skeptical after of what I’ve seen. From all FSU women I can surely say that Belarusian women are the most conservative both the way they look and act. ONS almost don’t happen here. You are expected to take here on a date, surely more than one, so a weekend trip like mine is not a good idea, you might get disappointed, but as you will read below I managed to do quite fine. Another interesting thing you might wanna know is that unemployment among women here reaches 65 %. Why? The answer is simple, because the women are expected to be a housewife, and the man is the provider. Typical post soviet mentality. The girls are getting married here around 22 -25. Results? Belarus got one of the highest divorce rate in the whole wide World, over ½ of pairs decides to divorce. Ever wondered why you never hear about Belarusian students somewhere in the Europe? Belarus is the only European country that did not join the Erasmus students exchange program, so Belarusian college girls are nowhere to be found in Europe. As you can see the separation between Belarus and the rest of the Europe is huge. How do I know all of this? Keep reading.

NIGHTLIFE & GAME
Pretty good actually (as for an industrial hole). I managed to visit a 3 night clubs during the stay, but there are a lot more, maybe someone from the forum got some experience, but here are my thoughts:

Dozari – no.1 club in Minsk, considered as prestigious and exclusive, best looking woman (but men as well) and many of them speaks basic english, nice place, not that much crowded but neither empty. But from the other hand it’s probably most expensive and you have to pass the face control at the entrance, and I’m afraid that the ‘exotic looking’ lads might get some problems (kind of like shooters in Kiev). Entrance – 25 $. House/disco music, good vibe, liked it. Kind of remained me of Moscow.

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Dozari, check the F/M Ratio


Next – funny story, the club was actually located on the third floor at the hotel where we were residing in (Crowne Plaza). I discovered it incidentally and it was one hell of a surprise. Face control just like in the Dozari but I guess it’s less strict cuz many of clubbers were the hotels guests and it’s clear that most of them were foreigners. So basically a place to meet local and foreign women. Anyway my night always ended up there somehow. House music as well, entrance costed me 8 $. Golddigers alert.

Titan – located far from city centre, not that prestigious as the two above but that was the deal, almost no face control, many college girls, but the quality of them was also slightly worse. Yet another club with loud house music. Been there once. Can’t really remember how much was the entrance but probably less than 10 $.

As you can see I’ve chosen the best places, but that was my plan – if I had only 2,5 day I wanted to see the best stuff that the city has to offer. There are many places with free entrance, less expensive and so on, I am only concerned about the face control because it seems to me that it’s just literally everywhere, when I asked the locals about that the answer was clear and logical : to avoid prostitution and drug dealing inside of the clubs, I heard it was such a big deal back in the days, common and frequent that managers decided to deal with that once and for all. Anyway make sure you look sharp, don’t get shitfaced before going out and act normal.

GAME
You have to crack into the social circles which are as common here as in the whole FSU, but here it’s definitely harder here due to lack of English and weird mentality (maybe something like an introduction by the local would do the trick) . I hope you are able to separate a girl from her friend’s (they always come in groups here and mostly stick together) cuz believe me the jealous butterface friend is willing to cockblock and destroy your night. If you read my description carefully you probably got your own opinion about the women by now. My advice: be respectful, show your ‘good intentions’. If you can dance like a boss – show it. FSU guys cannot dance, so they mostly don’t even try. Stay calm, cool and collected, it’s not Ibiza and you can’t show off like a clown here cuz this will attract only… some intoxicated Belarusian guys. Ofc confidence is the key, accompanied with patience and persistence. Showing yourself as a someone outside, the girls will be both curious and distrustful, so you need to establish how far you can get. Anyway this isn’t a newbie territory, girls are rather shy, closed and conservative. If Roosh in ‘Bang Poland’ (I’ve read only the sample from Amazon) compared polish girls to avocado, I’d compare Belarusian ones to coconut. You are probably asking yourself now ‘Why bother, when I can simply go to Ukraine and get laid 5 times more without that much effort?’ Well, honestly I can’t answer you that, cuz probably you are right. Arriving here for the women is like playing your favorite video game at hardcore mode, which can be both frustrating and annoying, but when you finally complete it, you just smile and know it was worth it.

MY STORY & CONCLUSIONS
I’ll spare you the boring Friday afternoon, like I said before I wasn’t day gaming, I did though bet my polish friend 100 euro that there’s no way he can obtain a phone number on the Minsk streets. Yep, you are probably guessing right, I’m 100 ahead, but it was truly hilarious to watch him struggling. In a restaurant I asked very cute waitress where is a good place for some Friday night action, she told me that she’s going to Titan club with some friends, so we decided to hit it as well. Arrived there minutes before 23. It was packed like hell, but the worst thing was the F/M ratio – too many sweated men, plus so fucking loud house music that I could barely heard my own thoughts. After less than half hour of mostly observing we decided to leave that place and go straight to Dozari. It was like a trip from hell to heaven, I already liked that place, and the quality of women was much, much higher. I had a simple plan – SNL. I opened three girls (one by one not a set) but each time I wasn’t able to close the deal properly. Body language was good, I built attraction each time, obtained two close kisses but in the end they always insisted on giving me their numbers and going out some next time. I realized that the problem wasn’t me but them. I could spent some more time witch each one of them and maybe things would go different, but I was on a limited time and I thought that I’d finally find the one. But then my polish friend came up and told me he found and talked to a polish girl here, I followed him, he wasn’t lying. Girl named Julia, Belarusian but with polish background was having a birthday party. She truly could speak polish but not really that much. I was introduced to all her friends and suddenly I was in the centre of attention, spelling my trash talk about Poland and as I mentioned earlier they like it a lot. After a while I spotted one of the party crew girls who clearly wasn’t having a good time, sitting in the lodge, with nose up and a bitch look on her face, but damn she was hot as hell (23yo, 175, blonde, great figure, light eyes, beautiful face – true 9). I opened her with a silly line “A może ty mówisz po polsku”? She smiled and said “не” – I knew that the game was on. She turned out to be a history student, so I started arguing in a playful way about Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. When I was about to close she told me she has to leave cuz she was not feeling well, and that’s why she wasn’t having a good time, and the only reason she stayed for that long was me, we exchanged numbers, and she promised that we’ll met the next day (basically it meant we can fuck tomorrow) , and she can show me the city. I had too much, left the club right after her, took the cab and got back to hotel. Then I spotted party-head people in front of it, so I ask what was up with them, they answered me that there’s a fine club inside, on the third floor called ‘Next’. I was like LOL are u fucking kidding me? I had to check it out. I barely passed the entrance (they smelled the alcohol from mile away, but eventually let me in only cuz I was the hotel guest and I gave both of the bouncers 10 $ extra). It was after 3 so there weren’t many people left. I got sort of lucky. I literally bumped into fine brunette girl, at the bar, she was by herself, nothing spectacular, but a decent, mature (older than me for sure) 7. She turned out to be a Russian guest of the hotel, taking care of a business in Minsk. When she called me ‘a true first real man this night’ I knew I won’t fail this time. I didn’t even have to work on that one, she proposed a drinking game, I escalated quickly and we close the deal in her hotel room. That was the first day and night. I got laid, but that wasn’t really what I expected. The next day I met my blonde beauty. Took her for a diner. It was sort of a date I guess. We talked and she told me most of the stuff I shared with you above. She told me she was afraid of her future. When a young person In Belarus wants to study at University (which is very expensive) there are two choices : simply pay for it or study for free, but when you finally get your degree, your ass belongs to the country and you have to pay it back with your work for your studies. She was worrying that she will end up in some shithole near Russian border, teaching village kids history, and marrying a savage. She turned out to be smart and funny, a true LTR material, unlike most of polish girls of her beauty which are dumb and vain as fuck. I realized how hard it was to live there.
Anyway, I invited her to my hotel that night, we went to Next, and there was no turning back for her, but as expected there wasn’t any resistance this time. I did her that night and that’s how I got my Belarusian flag. We are still texting each other even now, after almost month. After Sunday morning breakfast, we head off back to Kraków. My Ukrainian friend claimed he got a bj in a toilette of some African-looking club and bunch of unuseful numbers, and the polish one well, he got wasted two nights straight, but he was happy anyway so good for him.

I feel sorry for you Belarus, I feel sorry for all the beautiful women wasting their potential in this shithole , for the dictator and his propaganda who clearly washes everyone’s brains up. Belarus is a country of paradoxes, definitely not a place to live in. The only thing that makes me wanna come back there are the women. I hope you enjoyed my data sheet as much as I enjoyed their company. It was a short but very useful experience. I’ll make some updates and more thoughts after my return there in early September.
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This is what I call a data sheet!. If this was your Geography project you would get an A+, illustrations and everything.

Will comment after I read it all
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I agree being polish is a DHV in Belarus.Many times I was asked this question ''pan jest Polakiem?'' by girls with a big smile on their faces.Also some Belarussians told me that their dream is to become a country like Poland.
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Nice reading and a great data sheet!

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Great data sheet, a well deserved +1 from me.

Just a couple of small points I will pull you up on:

Your comments about the police hassling foreigners there like in other FSU countries: This is not true. The police there are very wary of targeting foreigners and in all my trips there I have never had anything but excellent interactions with them. They have seen me drunk and stumbling into my car after leaving a club and not made a move when I drove off,I've been caught by them drunk in the streets singing anti-Lukashenko songs and they've just told the girl I was with to take me home and to sober up. I have a hundred incidents like that where they have given me a far easier time then they would a local.

Secondly...

Quote: (07-03-2012 12:39 PM)polish rumble Wrote:  

I feel sorry for you Belarus, I feel sorry for all the beautiful women wasting their potential in this shithole , for the dictator and his propaganda who clearly washes everyone’s brains up. Belarus is a country of paradoxes, definitely not a place to live in.

I don't think you need to. The people there know the score regarding the propaganda they are fed and in many ways are better off then us in the West.

Anyway only minor points in what was an excellent data sheet. Good work.
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One hell of an awesome data-sheet, thanks. I met a couple of Belorussian guys a few years ago who came to America for a film festival. They did not like Lushenko. From what I gathered, their short film was a tragicomedy (maybe just a tragedy) about a Belorussian mail-order bride (or of a foreign marriage to a westerner). Anyhow, nice guys. They said there best asset was their women and said I would be impressed and should visit, and one guy gave me his card which I have since lost. I am sure that social circle connection would pay off.

Thanks for posting.
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Quote: (07-03-2012 01:44 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

Great data sheet, a well deserved +1 from me.

Just a couple of small points I will pull you up on:

Your comments about the police hassling foreigners there like in other FSU countries: This is not true. The police there are very wary of targeting foreigners and in all my trips there I have never had anything but excellent interactions with them. They have seen me drunk and stumbling into my car after leaving a club and not made a move when I drove off,I've been caught by them drunk in the streets singing anti-Lukashenko songs and they've just told the girl I was with to take me home and to sober up. I have a hundred incidents like that where they have given me a far easier time then they would a local.

Secondly...

Quote: (07-03-2012 12:39 PM)polish rumble Wrote:  

I feel sorry for you Belarus, I feel sorry for all the beautiful women wasting their potential in this shithole , for the dictator and his propaganda who clearly washes everyone’s brains up. Belarus is a country of paradoxes, definitely not a place to live in.

I don't think you need to. The people there know the score regarding the propaganda they are fed and in many ways are better off then us in the West.

Anyway only minor points in what was an excellent data sheet. Good work.

How can you pull the OP on the point about Police hassling foreigners?

Aren't you Russian, maybe the Police thought you were a local. I mean you were singing in Russian.

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Quote: (07-03-2012 01:44 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

Your comments about the police hassling foreigners there like in other FSU countries: This is not true. The police there are very wary of targeting foreigners and in all my trips there I have never had anything but excellent interactions with them. They have seen me drunk and stumbling into my car after leaving a club and not made a move when I drove off,I've been caught by them drunk in the streets singing anti-Lukashenko songs and they've just told the girl I was with to take me home and to sober up. I have a hundred incidents like that where they have given me a far easier time then they would a local.

I see your point, but here’s the deal with FSU Militia – they are kind of unpredictable, on the one hand they can be as cool as you say, I remember myself walking drunk as hell after midnight in Kiev, they spotted me, and I said ‘Gentlemen, it’s fine, I’m totally ok’ they just laughed and let me go, in Poland I’d be fined (the most optimist version). But there is the other darker side, many times I ve seen them fooling around, provoking and stopping others. They are corrupted, and they know that a foreigner who doesn’t know Russian is just an easy money option and can be ripped off easily, so as I said if you don’t know Russian it’s way better to just avoid them.

Quote: (07-03-2012 01:44 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

I don't think you need to. The people there know the score regarding the propaganda they are fed and in many ways are better off then us in the West.

Yes, well surely most of Belarusians do not care about politics, and they don’t feel the need of being westernised and I totally respect that, it was just my subjective opinion as a person of liberal views
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Russian police harasses much more than Belarussian one but Belarussian more than Ukrainian.
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Quote: (07-03-2012 04:54 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Russian police harasses much more than Belarussian one but Belarussian more than Ukrainian.

Great datasheets, i would have repped you for it but you already have 3 rep points for it.

Well done!,

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You mentioned girls are blonder in Belarus than Ukraine. Would you say Belarus is the similar to Poland in blondness?

I feel like girls in Poland are blonder than Ukraine, but overall, girls look better in Ukraine (Russian-part), in my opinion. In terms of the visual quality of girls, how is Belarus compared to Poland and Ukraine (Russian-part of Ukraine)?
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Quote: (07-03-2012 02:31 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

How can you pull the OP on the point about Police hassling foreigners?

Aren't you Russian, maybe the Police thought you were a local. I mean you were singing in Russian.

No I'm not Russian.

I just happened to have lived in Belarus and hence was correcting the point that the Belarusian police are as bad as their mofo counterparts across the FSU,because they are not. They have orders specifically not to target foreigners,where as in Russia etc. it seems their orders are the reverse and we are fair game for being hassled by every uniform wearing fool who is on the take.
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Quote: (07-03-2012 10:03 PM)The Duke Wrote:  

I feel like girls in Poland are blonder than Ukraine

I have completely opposite impression [Image: tongue.gif], i'd say that 1-2 out of 10 girls in Poland are blondes, but some (most?) of them are dyed, in Ukraine its more like 2-3/10

Quote: (07-03-2012 10:03 PM)The Duke Wrote:  

but overall, girls look better in Ukraine (Russian-part), in my opinion.

I'm not gonna argue with that, they are taller and better figure for sure, but most of my Ukrainian experience was from the Western part

Quote: (07-03-2012 10:03 PM)The Duke Wrote:  

In terms of the visual quality of girls, how is Belarus compared to Poland and Ukraine (Russian-part of Ukraine)?

Like I said I don't want to generalise, ask f.eg Vorkuta who lived there, cuz i don't think that I'm competent enough to answer you that, but if you are into Slavic type of beauty, you definitely won't be disappointed
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Great data sheet.
I'd strongly recommend people check out Garage venue at night, too. It plays funk music and the atmosphere and crowd are fantastic. Honestly, it's one of the favourites bars in all of Eastern Europe.
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Nice read Rumble.

Under 18yr old girls aren't allowed out after 11pm, boo hoo! [Image: sad.gif]
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Quote: (07-03-2012 10:03 PM)The Duke Wrote:  

You mentioned girls are blonder in Belarus than Ukraine. Would you say Belarus is the similar to Poland in blondness?

I feel like girls in Poland are blonder than Ukraine, but overall, girls look better in Ukraine (Russian-part), in my opinion. In terms of the visual quality of girls, how is Belarus compared to Poland and Ukraine (Russian-part of Ukraine)?

Polish women arent that blonde, at least not naturally anyways, most women there are brunettes after teenages. The thing is most men suck at telling natural blondes from fake blondes apart , which I do find quite easy. I think czech are blonder than russians on average, russians blonder than ukranians, and ukranians blonder than poles, whom are by a large brown haired. In fact true blonde hair is overrated in slavic countries, even estonia( i know it isnt slavic but east european nonetheless) doesnt have that many real blondes as people might imagine, not in adult age anyways.
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I've never been to Estonia or Sweden, but Poland is probably the blondest country I've visited. If you check my profile you'll see I've been to a lot of non-blond countries. From my perspective, Poland is not a bad place to find a blond girl.

Blondness varies in Poland. I saw more blonds in Warsaw area than Wroclaw. But as a whole, I get the sense that Poland is slightly blonder than Kharkiv, Ukraine. However Kharkiv and Poland both are blonder than most places in the USA.

It's not always easy to spot a fake blond. I was talking to an American in Kharkiv who was talking about seeing a lot of fake blonds. He said "they have dark eyebrows so I know it's fake". Well, my Ukrainian girlfriend likes to wear eye makeup that darkens her eyebrows. Makes her look like a fake blond. In reality she's naturally very blond.

I think the best way to know if a population has a lot of fake blonds or not is to look at the men. I think men are less likely to die their hair. That said, I think testosterone can darken hair a bit. This might have something to due to adults being less blond than kids.
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Quote: (07-06-2012 09:15 PM)The Duke Wrote:  

I've never been to Estonia or Sweden, but Poland is probably the blondest country I've visited. If you check my profile you'll see I've been to a lot of non-blond countries. From my perspective, Poland is not a bad place to find a blond girl.

Blondness varies in Poland. I saw more blonds in Warsaw area than Wroclaw. But as a whole, I get the sense that Poland is slightly blonder than Kharkiv, Ukraine. However Kharkiv and Poland both are blonder than most places in the USA.

It's not always easy to spot a fake blond. I was talking to an American in Kharkiv who was talking about seeing a lot of fake blonds. He said "they have dark eyebrows so I know it's fake". Well, my Ukrainian girlfriend likes to wear eye makeup that darkens her eyebrows. Makes her look like a fake blond. In reality she's naturally very blond.

I think the best way to know if a population has a lot of fake blonds or not is to look at the men. I think men are less likely to die their hair. That said, I think testosterone can darken hair a bit. This might have something to due to adults being less blond than kids.
Thats the thing eastern europe is more a mixed bag where you can find any kind of pigmentation on decent proportion, but its usually mostly brown hair and ratt colored hair which dominates most slavic countries, exvept russia who has it all from ravens to clear blondes. Western europe is more homogeneous than east, nowhere on the east you might find as homogeneously dark haired places such as portugal, cyprus, malta, southern italy, neither you will find as homogeneously blond places such as ruralsmaller cities in scandinavia, low countries and northern germany.
If you found poland to be particularly blond is either you been mostly to only dark hair places (latin europe, balkans, outside europe) or you have no really idea how to tell apart natural from fake blond girls, the easiest way is looking at men of the country and family of the girl, if all the family, brotherssisters etc have dark hair its obvious she is likely to be dyed, specially if she is sporting a light blonde shade. Also once you see a lot of faces you can notice what facial features, skin complexion goes along more often with natural blond hair. Fake blond hair shines way different than natural one and look more homogeneous in color, the natural ones can have shade variation during seasons and in diferent parts of,dead, usually top is a little blonder by receiving the most sun, and also blond girls have quite hairy arms.
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A dialogue I had yesterday with a Belarussian girl confirmed my notion about slavic guys superior game.
Me:You are very lucky in Belarus.You have so many nice slavic guys.They are a God's gift to women.
Her:There are good ones and bad ones.
Me:Slavs seem to me rather good.They are funny and relaxed and very pleasant.
Her:What you write shows that you have absolutely no idea about slavic guys.
Me:They seem O.K. to me.
Her:No.They are the worst pigs around.They are the worst men on earth.
Me:I think you exaggerate.
Her:They drink like pigs,they do not know how to make money,they do not know how to please women and they expect everything from the woman.They do not move a hand.
Me:I disagree.They seem nice to me,
Her:Because you are a man.
Me[Image: biggrin.gif]o you think Russians are better?Or maybe Ukrainians.
Her:To me all slavic guys look the same.
Me:And Poles as well?
Her:...
MeTongueity.I find slavic guys sympathetic.

So I never throw shield to agree with them on this issue and gain points.I always support slavic guys and their attitude which makes women so angry about them.Such a passion shows clearly that these guys do a marvellous job.
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Quote: (09-03-2012 04:30 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

A dialogue I had yesterday with a Belarussian girl confirmed my notion about slavic guys superior game.
Me:You are very lucky in Belarus.You have so many nice slavic guys.They are a God's gift to women.
Her:There are good ones and bad ones.
Me:Slavs seem to me rather good.They are funny and relaxed and very pleasant.
Her:What you write shows that you have absolutely no idea about slavic guys.
Me:They seem O.K. to me.
Her:No.They are the worst pigs around.They are the worst men on earth.
Me:I think you exaggerate.
Her:They drink like pigs,they do not know how to make money,they do not know how to please women and they expect everything from the woman.They do not move a hand.
Me:I disagree.They seem nice to me,
Her:Because you are a man.
Me[Image: biggrin.gif]o you think Russians are better?Or maybe Ukrainians.
Her:To me all slavic guys look the same.
Me:And Poles as well?
Her:...
MeTongueity.I find slavic guys sympathetic.

So I never throw shield to agree with them on this issue and gain points.I always support slavic guys and their attitude which makes women so angry about them.Such a passion shows clearly that these guys do a marvellous job.

Yes kamaki it seems like it would be a blessing being born a man in a Slavic country. All you have to do is drink a lot, sleep all day, tell women what to do, and if you have slavic game bang a new feminine, young hot girl every week. Contrast that to the sorry life that most men have in America.
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Quote: (09-05-2012 12:40 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Yes kamaki it seems like it would be a blessing being born a man in a Slavic country. All you have to do is drink a lot, sleep all day, tell women what to do, and if you have slavic game bang a new feminine, young hot girl every week. Contrast that to the sorry life that most men have in America.



Instead of being a fanboy and take every kamiks word literal use your brain Choche. Yes it's true, guys in Eastern Europe do nothing but drink vodka, sleep and bang hot girls 24/7 (ofc each day new one). [Image: lol.gif]

You have no idea how hard the life is for an average man in FSU, I imagine that most of them would happily choose the life in a country such as America, instead of living a life with no perspectives, and about that Belarussian girl, although she has a point she needs to be more down to earth.
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#22

Minsk, Belarus Data Sheet

Polish Rumble's report has to go down as one of the best data sheets on RVF.

I'm hoping Spartan will drop a data sheet about Belarus. He lived there in a couple of cities and learnt the lingo so he must have a ton of knowledge about the country that could prove useful.
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Quote: (09-05-2012 01:02 PM)polish rumble Wrote:  

Quote: (09-05-2012 12:40 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Yes kamaki it seems like it would be a blessing being born a man in a Slavic country. All you have to do is drink a lot, sleep all day, tell women what to do, and if you have slavic game bang a new feminine, young hot girl every week. Contrast that to the sorry life that most men have in America.



Instead of being a fanboy and take every kamiks word literal use your brain Choche. Yes it's true, guys in Eastern Europe do nothing but drink vodka, sleep and bang hot girls 24/7 (ofc each day new one). [Image: lol.gif]

You have no idea how hard the life is for an average man in FSU, I imagine that most of them would happily choose the life in a country such as America, instead of living a life with no perspectives, and about that Belarussian girl, although she has a point she needs to be more down to earth.

Rumble, stop taking things so seriously. Go have a shot of vodka right now and bang one of your polish hos, so that you will be take things more lightly hehe. I was having a laugh when i read what kamaki wrote, but that doesnt mean there wasnt any wisdom in what he was saying. You slavs might have it rough economically, but Id take the life in one of your countries rather than in America. Money aint everything my friend.
Im living in Ecuador currently, which is a poorer and more corrupt version of any slavic country, but without the hot girls. But with hard work and smarts Ive managed, in 5 years, to be completely financially independent and can travel whenever I want. If the average FSU man is stuck in such a rut, he has only himself to blame.
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Quote: (09-05-2012 01:20 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

I was having a laugh when i read what kamaki wrote, but that doesnt mean there wasnt any wisdom in what he was saying.

Frankly, I think that most of his stuff is more humorous than accurate

Quote: (09-05-2012 01:20 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

You slavs might have it rough economically, but Id take the life in one of your countries rather than in America. Money aint everything my friend.

I was not referring only to money, but the overall life quality, take away hot women from FSU, what is left?

Quote: (09-05-2012 01:20 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

If the average FSU man is stuck in such a rut, he has only himself to blame.

Believe me its more complex than that. Remember than whether its Russia, Ukraine or Belaruss women love the guys who show off with money, and gold Rolex is more important than your personality. Anyway, lets not make a beef or off topic here. I'll only respond to the questions about Minsk.

Side Note, I'll be back there within 2 weeks, as announced in the DS.
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Minsk, Belarus Data Sheet

I wanted to ask:
1.How much cheaper is Minsk now compared to Poland?(I think Belorussian ruble got devaluated even further)
2.Are Belorussian girls easier or more difficult than Ukrainian girls?(for same quality)
3.What are the main differences between ukrainian and Belorussian girls? Who demand more?
4.Belarus as a hunting ground is much better than Poland for a polish guy?If a Pole had the opportunity to travel would you recommend to him Belarus or Ukraine?
5.Do you think a Belorussian guy would do well in Poland?Or an Ukrainian guy?
6.Compared to polish are belarussian girls hotter?
7.Being a foreigner from EU counts more in Ukraine or Belarus?
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