Sooo...
Just some small contribution to this side of the forum.
I've been out on my first night here in Honolulu, with some dudes I met at a hostel nearby. Some brazilians and a lost japanese dude. Funny people.
My main focus wasn't to go out looking for girls per se, I'm just out to get to know the place, the nightlife, the people etc. With that in mind, bear with me some lessons that I learned this night.
I meet this group of guys in Waikiki. One of them is another brazilian that will be spending the following months here as well. The thing is, back home we are used to arriving really late at the clubs, so we got ready late, bounced to one spot, didn't like it, and arrived at another ("Senor Frog"), on the main street there at Waikiki. We get in the club around 1am, which I get that seems late for local standards, as the club closes at 4am. Its a Friday night.
So I get in, pay the 10 dolar local charge, show my passport to the HUGE SAMOAN BOUNCERS (they are big, I'm impressed). I immediatly go to the bar an open these two asian chicks. Bear in mind: I am not used to asian girls where I come from, and it is hard to distinguish them (korean? chinese-american? japanese? filipino?). These two were american born, one from Cali and other from Virginia (I kept teasing this one... where is Virginia??). They walked away after a while.
I looked around to see that 80% of the girls were 'asian'. To my eyes, they were beautiful. Sort of a fetish thing going on...
I lost track of my friends, circled the club, opened a few more girls without much success. I soon found them and was introduced to this other brazilian guy, who's been living in america for a while. We went to the open balcony area to talk a bit. I asked him what he felt about american girls and I was startled by his answer. You guys might find this funny...
I was shocked to hear pretty much the same that I've been reading at Roosh's blog. This brazilian dude tells me that american girls 'are cold and mechanical in bed', they don't allow for 'emotional connection' , they just f*** and say goodbye etc etc. I was startled by a fellow countryman giving me this account which I hear all the time over here.
I go back to the bar for another beer, spot my brazilian friend (the one who will also be studying here) when we are greeted by this happy, half drunk, late 20's guy. He's the manager, and he's brazilian (from Florianópolis), and he's happy to see us and he immediately gives us a card with his name, saying that we can go there whenever we want without paying the cover charge. Nice...
Another very insightful moment follows. After stealing a full drink (Screwdriver) that was left unatended at the balcony, I proceed to the dancefloor. I see this 3set which I opened before, and engage them again. This moment was extremely eye-opening for me. The girls were dancing to hip hop (dislike) when I just show up and whisper something to one of the girls. AS I WAS TALKING TO HER these two black dudes just show up from nowhere, start dancing and grinding at them WITHOUT A WORD BEING SAID, and the girls respond to it, leaving me alone.
I immediately realised two things:
-the power of african-american game (these guys were fearless and they had groooove. They were busting their moves on the dancefloor)
-how differently dancefloor game seems to work over here.
I was startled, to say the least.
A while ago (before Samseu's post), I posted here about my qualms with approaching girls on the dancefloor and what nots, but since I developed my own ways round it. Back home, at the indie venues I went, I didn't need much dancing, just did a balsy move at the girls on the dancefloor after a few words.
I realised that here (america? hawaii?) you actually need to be good at dancing to get some! Back home, you'd only be expected that if you went to a specific venue that people actually focus on dancing (a forró or samba venue, for example). On the rock and indie venues I went, I didn't need to dance much, I just had to carry some of my talking game to the dancefloor, after having opened the girl elsewhere, or not even that. And I don't think I am that bad of a dancer... I guess I am just lazy...
Proceeding.
My personal main highlight for the night (after a reasonable number of approaches) was this damn cute filipino girl I opened on the balcony. She had other two less pretty filipino friends with her, and there was a dude trying something with one of them. I actually think that I gamed her to the best of my ability, but I am sure that there are cultural subtleties that I could't grasp. She's a mother of a baby child, as she told me... maybe she wasn't interest in anonymous sex. She teased me and what nots (played with my beard for one moment) but when I went for it, I only had no for an answer. Not even a phone number.
Mind you, although brazilians are know for their 'caveman game', I am not much of an advocate of that 'technique', especially in foreign lands where I don't grasp the culture. Even though I always tend to be somewhat objective, I don't make agressive passes early on, I wait for the right timing.
I am saying this for a reason: this friend of mine (the one who is also attening uni here for a semester...) got kicked out from a club early this week. I wasn't out with him, and later he told me about it. Apparently he tried to make a pass at a waitress, and seemed to touch her somewhat agressively and security (aka huge samoans) busted his ass out of the place, with a warning to not show up again. As I read it, he attempted 'caveman game' on a culture that is not ready for it.
Sooo...
That pretty much covers the main highlights of my first night out over here. Maybe not much of a contribution, but for me there were several lessons and highlights that will be taken in consideration the next time I'm out.
That's all folks... for the while.