[WesternCancer]

Alright.

As I get deeper into game and further towards my self improvement goals I've been noticing a significantly larger amount of girls noticing me or paying more attention to me.

Backstory: I was never a complete "AFC beta" I could talk to girls, was moderately confident etc, but I had a "don't give a fuck about people" attitude. My biggest problem was sensing, acknowledging and acting on attraction signals from girls. I would go online a lot to this myspace kind of site, PMed only girls, talked in forums with everyone else. I made some "online" friends. I had a few girls I was chatting with who were totally into me, but I told myself they weren't into me and I never met up with them. My second girlfriend was actually from that site. My third girlfriend I kind of met online, but she messaged me on facebook (facebook group before Uni started). Anyways with all of these girls they would always be the ones making the first moves.

Fast forward to now, I'm more confident in getting signals from girls and closing. I'm still not where I want to be yet, but I am in double digit bangs so far in 2 years. Basically I've come a long way in all aspects.

I've been noticing that since the start of 2012 some of these girls I used to talk to have been restarting via facebook with me, same with girls I've never really talked to or girls I have failed with in the past.

I can understand how game would net more girls noticing me or me being able to generally see these attraction signals more easily, especially during real life interactions. The perceived increase is understandably due to: appearance, body language the way I walk, how they observe me interacting with other people etc.

What I don't understand is what causes the girls who I haven't seen or really talked to since my introduction into game/this lifestyle to hit me up on facebook or text me after such a long period of time without contact. I haven't changed my facebook profile in forever I've just edited out bad pictures and removed my likes etc.

So my question/discussion point is: Are girls able to distinguish/sense a man who has improved himself and learned game from his former self if all they have to go on is his online presence.

Also can girls do the same thing with seeing a man for the first time? A 10 second judgement window of sorts.

I have 2 friends who physically are similar, dress similar and generally all around act similar. One has better game and the other girls deem him the "creepy" dude and they usually have made this decision within seconds to minutes regardless of what they are doing. They could both be sitting there talking about football or something and the girl would tell the "game guy" from the "creepy guy".

[Basil Ransom]

(03-01-2012 09:55 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

So my question/discussion point is: Are girls able to distinguish/sense a man who has improved himself and learned game from his former self if all they have to go on is his online presence.

Also can girls do the same thing with seeing a man for the first time? A 10 second judgement window of sorts.

1. They will probably assume you're the same person.

2. No. Not that I come off as a complete natural, but plenty of the girls I gel well with assume I've always been a player. Mostly because the kino comes hard and fast, and because I always have a sly remark ready, and answer their questions only obliquely.

If you were skinny, gaining 30-50 pounds of muscle will 'reset' people's expectations of you. Same for former fatties. With your new look, they are open to believing you have a different personality now too.

[Greek kamaki]

Yes,girls can sense game because you appear too perfect.I always leave room for imperfections so they do not get oversuspicious.

[Deluge]

I'm of the opinion that girls can detect charisma and confidence from a mile away. Since these are the foundations of "game", my answer is yes.

However, if you've already knew the person before you improved yourself, it may take a while for them to detect and adjust to the changes you've made as a person.

[Rigo]

I've gotten more confident over the last couple of years: gained some pounds of muscle, fixed my teeth, worked on body language, picked up surfing, feeling great in general with myself and girls sense this for sure ... I've been getting called a player more and more these days, dont know if it thats good or bad though since I've been getting flaked as much.

(03-02-2012 05:16 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Yes,girls can sense game because you appear too perfect.I always leave room for imperfections so they do not get oversuspicious.

Makes sense Greek!

[Fujiwara]

They can sense game, for sure, but if she's into you she's into you.

Driving from the beach the other day, my girl said something about me seeing other girls and I brushed it off. I don't recall what words I used, something like, "you're the only girl right now" or some shit, before she says, "that's game."

Also, girls that I wasn't gaming have told me I have game, based on their observations with another girl.

[Entropy]

They can sense my erection.....

[MrXY]

Can you sense a girl wearing makeup, a push up bra, high heels, with an expensive hairstyle?

Does it make her any less attractive?

[anewtypedude]

Better question is: can girls sense that you are a pretentious alpha wannabe?

[Parlay44]

(03-02-2012 05:16 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Yes,girls can sense game because you appear too perfect.I always leave room for imperfections so they do not get oversuspicious.

(03-02-2012 09:48 PM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

Better question is: can girls sense that you are a pretentious alpha wannabe?

This is fucking retarded. Game isn't something you run. It's something you have. It's called a personality, life experience, confidence, intelligence. If you can't sit and have a conversation with another human being and connect with them on some kind of level then you're emotionally damaged and need counseling to unfuck yourself.

If you want to develop your game ...practice being persuasive. See what you can talk people into doing for you on a daily basis. Simple shit. Talk a woman into getting you a coffee, picking you up a candy bar when she goes out for lunch, picking you up for work cause your car is in the shop, making you a sandwich ...etc.

If you can handle all of those things then work your way up to talking a woman into giving you the only thing she has of any value for free. Her pussy. That's game.

[Deluge]

(03-02-2012 10:56 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(03-02-2012 05:16 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Yes,girls can sense game because you appear too perfect.I always leave room for imperfections so they do not get oversuspicious.

(03-02-2012 09:48 PM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

Better question is: can girls sense that you are a pretentious alpha wannabe?

This is fucking retarded. Game isn't something you run. It's something you have. It's called a personality, life experience, confidence, intelligence. If you can't sit and have a conversation with another human being and connect with them on some kind of level then you're emotionally damaged and need counseling to unfuck yourself.

If you want to develop your game ...practice being persuasive. See what you can talk people into doing for you on a daily basis. Simple shit. Talk a woman into getting you a coffee, picking you up a candy bar when she goes out for lunch, picking you up for work cause your car is in the shop, making you a sandwich ...etc.

If you can handle all of those things then work your way up to talking a woman into giving you the only thing she has of any value for free. Her pussy. That's game.

Beautifully said. +1

[thegmanifesto]

(03-02-2012 10:56 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

If you want to develop your game ...practice being persuasive. See what you can talk people into doing for you on a daily basis. Simple shit. Talk a woman into getting you a coffee, picking you up a candy bar when she goes out for lunch, picking you up for work cause your car is in the shop, making you a sandwich ...etc.

The line I bolded is genius.

Whenever I talk about Game, I have basically tried to say that. But never so simple.

Seriously, we can probably shut down the Game forum now.

[jerome]

(03-02-2012 10:56 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(03-02-2012 05:16 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Yes,girls can sense game because you appear too perfect.I always leave room for imperfections so they do not get oversuspicious.

(03-02-2012 09:48 PM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

Better question is: can girls sense that you are a pretentious alpha wannabe?

This is fucking retarded. Game isn't something you run. It's something you have. It's called a personality, life experience, confidence, intelligence. If you can't sit and have a conversation with another human being and connect with them on some kind of level then you're emotionally damaged and need counseling to unfuck yourself.

Parlay, I like what you said about being more persuasive. That is gold and great advice.

But I think the other stuff you said afterwards, comes off kind of angry and lacks respect for guys who are not as experience as you.

My advice learn to enjoy giving advice, instead of smacking dudes in the head, every-time they ask a noob question. We are all here to learn. the anger is unnecessary. This anger is coming from somewhere.

J

[Parlay44]

(03-02-2012 11:09 PM)jerome Wrote:  

(03-02-2012 10:56 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(03-02-2012 05:16 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Yes,girls can sense game because you appear too perfect.I always leave room for imperfections so they do not get oversuspicious.

(03-02-2012 09:48 PM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

Better question is: can girls sense that you are a pretentious alpha wannabe?

This is fucking retarded. Game isn't something you run. It's something you have. It's called a personality, life experience, confidence, intelligence. If you can't sit and have a conversation with another human being and connect with them on some kind of level then you're emotionally damaged and need counseling to unfuck yourself.

Parlay, I like what you said about being more persuasive. That is gold and great advice.

But I think the other stuff you said afterwards, comes off kind of angry and lacks respect for guys who are not as experience as you.

My advice learn to enjoy giving advice, instead of smacking dudes in the head, every-time they ask a noob question. We are all here to learn. the anger is unnecessary. This anger is coming from somewhere.

J

You know what man ...I'm not trying to disrespect anyone in here. I can use 5 dollar words and politically correct language all day long if you want but it doesn't get the point across in the same way. This is a street level players' forum not a day care center I apologize if I offended anyone.

[Tuthmosis]

For some reason, every time I read the title to this thread, this image comes to my brain:

   

[Laner]

Quote:

Are girls able to distinguish/sense a man who has improved himself and learned game from his former self if all they have to go on is his online presence.

Remember that women dont only have your profile on FB, but the peripheral information about you through your shared connections.

Girls dont bother to hide the fact that they research guys on FB. Just last week a girl I am seeing was laughing with her roommate and looking through this guys online info to get his lowdown. They were drinking wine and making and making a time of it.

Its important to have a solid online presence. This is mostly for work purposes, but also for girls who are good with a computer.

[Greek kamaki]

With lots of game you seem like a girl who has put on tons of make up.Still attractive but maybe you will smell fishy.And when you see her in the morning without the make up her stocks may quickly fall as we say here.

[scotian]

Pure gold there Parley44, I burst out laughing at that one "...you're emotionally damaged and need counseling to unfuck yourself." comical and so true, +1 from me!