[HankRearden]

King St West is good. AVOID 'The Maddy' at all costs. My friends are obsessed with it but I don't rate it very highly. Gracie's is a little bit better and I've done decently well here, but lines are stupidly long on Thursday nights.

Also, I've never hear of anyone, ever, pulling 'street game' post-2AM as I think most girls would consider that creepy. Maybe I'm a novice when it comes to this, but don't count on bringing girls back as they head home. Unless they live fully downtown, most will cab home as well.

[kosko]

The Finance District gets quiet at night but if you stay at OneKingWest you will get ample opportunities to day game at many of the Restos/lounges post work during happy hour for the Bay Street set. The tip on The Tompson Hotel is bang on, since as far as location and the scene goes, it's the right mix of high end but still young enough to have a good circulation of young tail. Plus it should would be warm enough for the rooftop pool to be getting action during the day; girls go there to attention whore at the pool since it's only for guests or if you have a connect.

As far as venues goes, one you lock down accommodations we can set you towards ideal venues in around your place and also suggest places in and around surrounding neighborhoods.

The time of year your picking I think is good. You will still get university girls whom are slow to leave town but it's before cottage season is in I'll swing so local broads won't be running off to the lake on the weekends.

As far as street game after the bar as long as it's spring and warm just go to where the good is. There is a submarine/sandwhich shop near King and Spadina and it's full of tail after the bar. That is Hail Mary stuff though, ideally you should have a prospect locked down before that if your doing stuff in the day and night time.

Baseball season will be starting by then also. A underrated venue for girls are at Blue Jays games, our local team. There is a party patio on the middle level and it's basically a lounge during the game. Most games start around 6-7pm and end at 9pm, and A lot of girls hit up baseball games as it's fairly cheap to go and it's low attention meaning they don't actually have to watch and lay attention to the games. A tall Swede dude peacoking with a NY Yankee cap on will draw a lot of attention lol.

[tomtud]

Toronto is good for the young ones who want to drink and party in clubs as it is 19 not 21. In Quebec, Montreal it's 18 and closer to New York City to drive if needed.

But for things to do and enjoy, New York takes the cake.

[Nascimento]

Lol you should check out the maddy for hilarity purposes.

As long as you don't take it too seriously, you can still have a fun night. If things are the same as the last time I went there 8 months ago it should be quite a show..

Let us know when you're coming down. Last week of april/start of may is a perfect time.

[kosko]

The Maddy is dirt. Don't waste a night there.

[Pokerbaby]

Toronto has reached a new low point for me. Even my favorite dive bar has been contaminated!

I used to frequent this shitty little bar/club on Fri or Sat nights called "Dirty Martini". The only reason it was sort of less shitty than your typical Toronto hangout, was the suburban location and very diverse crowd. I went back recently and just found that it changed it's name to "CLUB Y.O.L.O." What a stupid name I thought at first. I think it was trying to be more "young and hip". When I went inside, there was at least 2 times as many men as women. The avg woman there was like 4 out of 10. Old, out of shape or both.

There were a few exceptions, an ok middle eastern girl, tall and slender not the prettiest of faces. She gave me a lot of IOI's but rejected my approach. The second was a super -hot 8 or 9 out of 10 spanish chick in early 20's. Maybe she got lost? I approached her but then her boyfriend showed up and dragged her away. Wasted time.

On the way out, I overheard 2 5's talking like they were 10's. "Oh so can you believe that guy actually had the nerve to ask you out?" "Do you think he was rich" "Oh I don't know he's still not for me..Kackle, Kackle Kackle".

When your favorite dive bar becomes shit...well I know I got to leave Toronto.

Oh and it's -16 degrees tonight.

[Vicious]

Thanks for everyone's feedback. I've pretty much decided on the dates 6th Jun- 14th Jun.

It's either going to be Toronto or Chicago. The big draw with Toronto is that you can get the most sick pads in the best locations on AirBNB for pennies. I've found that as long as I have that and good logistics I can make most places work with my game.

My last trip to NYC I blew 7k USD all in on one week (those Michelin stars are my vice) so I'm attracted by the possibility of finding another major city with more affordable options.

[rudebwoy]

@Pokerbaby - which Dirty's location did you go too?

[rishboy77]

(01-21-2014 03:48 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

@Pokerbaby - which Dirty's location did you go too?

He is talking about the one in Markham. The original location in Oakville is much better but you still have same problem. Any decent looking cougar starts thinking she is hotter then then she is because guys 10 years younger then her are looking to bang her.
I just came back from NY last night. With the right game plan, the Big Apple is still way better but it can get expensive down there.

[HankRearden]

(01-20-2014 09:39 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

Lol you should check out the maddy for hilarity purposes.

As long as you don't take it too seriously, you can still have a fun night. If things are the same as the last time I went there 8 months ago it should be quite a show..

Let us know when you're coming down. Last week of april/start of may is a perfect time.

Last time my buddy got kicked out for stealing a lightbulb; the time before he was kicked out for stealing french fries. Oh! And my other friend banged a girl in the fire escape of the Maddy whom I had previously banged some months before (as she cheated on her boyfriend of 2+ years).

Welcome to the Maddy!

[Vicious]

Tickets bought. I'm coming to Toronto. Hoping to prove everything written on the place as wrong.

[LeBeau]

(02-05-2014 11:34 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Tickets bought. I'm coming to Toronto. Hoping to prove everything written on the place as wrong.

^ Did Vicious ever do a write up on his trip or did I miss it?

[El_gato]

Ya vicious - tell us how much TO sucks

[rudebwoy]

He went to Mtl instead.

[Saladin]

(01-20-2014 08:52 PM)HankRearden Wrote:  

Also, I've never hear of anyone, ever, pulling 'street game' post-2AM as I think most girls would consider that creepy. Maybe I'm a novice when it comes to this, but don't count on bringing girls back as they head home. Unless they live fully downtown, most will cab home as well.

Street game is the hail mary of game but its worth the time and its not "creepy". And since did we care what girls find creepy? Sure 4 out of 5 girls will find it creepy, but you'll sometimes find that one girl who's disappointed she's not getting the D and will come home with you.

Me and all of my friends have gotten laid from street game, some of them multiple times. It's a good option in warmer weather in Toronto.

[Moma]

(01-05-2015 03:24 AM)Saladin Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 08:52 PM)HankRearden Wrote:  

Also, I've never hear of anyone, ever, pulling 'street game' post-2AM as I think most girls would consider that creepy. Maybe I'm a novice when it comes to this, but don't count on bringing girls back as they head home. Unless they live fully downtown, most will cab home as well.

Street game is the hail mary of game but its worth the time and its not "creepy". And since did we care what girls find creepy? Sure 4 out of 5 girls will find it creepy, but you'll sometimes find that one girl who's disappointed she's not getting the D and will come home with you.

Me and all of my friends have gotten laid from street game, some of them multiple times. It's a good option in warmer weather in Toronto.

Saladin, describe some personal successes from street game in Toronto, please. Are you talking about a lay that same night from the street or you talking about pulling a valid number? Do you think it beats out club game in terms of ROI?

[Saladin]

(01-05-2015 03:34 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:24 AM)Saladin Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 08:52 PM)HankRearden Wrote:  

Also, I've never hear of anyone, ever, pulling 'street game' post-2AM as I think most girls would consider that creepy. Maybe I'm a novice when it comes to this, but don't count on bringing girls back as they head home. Unless they live fully downtown, most will cab home as well.

Street game is the hail mary of game but its worth the time and its not "creepy". And since did we care what girls find creepy? Sure 4 out of 5 girls will find it creepy, but you'll sometimes find that one girl who's disappointed she's not getting the D and will come home with you.

Me and all of my friends have gotten laid from street game, some of them multiple times. It's a good option in warmer weather in Toronto.

Saladin, describe some personal successes from street game in Toronto, please. Are you talking about a lay that same night from the street or you talking about pulling a valid number? Do you think it beats out club game in terms of ROI?

Hmm, I got a lay from street game here in Bali, but that was essentially her approaching me(I was about to approach her as well but she got to me first). But if I hadn't decided to go out and hit the streets for some hail mary game that wouldn't have happened. Solid 8 looking to get some dick on the side while her boyfriends back in Finland.

In Toronto, I don't have a street game lay after 2 am, although I've had quite a few close calls(pretty much coming down to LMR and logistics). Most of my friends do have lays from last call street game, one of my boys actually lost his virginity from a street game lay.

Remember that I have really shitty logistics in Toronto though, which makes it pretty much very difficult to pull off the street. I had decent logistics for a couple months during 2013 summer, during which I remember pulling multiple girls of the street but not fucking any of them. That summer I only fucked one girl, despite pulling a lot of them back. I just didn't know how to get past LMR at that stage of my game.

I did have some really close calls. One girl, was a DJ chick was who pretty cute, who I met off the street and got her back to my room, making out, grabbing her ass. I didn't fuck her, because at that time I pretty much sucked at getting past LMR. I was nervous as fuck too.

In terms of ROI, as I said its hail mary game. It doesn't really take much extra effort to spend 20-30 minutes hitting the streets after clubs close.

I think any intermediate player can probably pull off a few extra lays a years by just putting in the effort to spend 20-30 minutes after a club to hit the streets if his logistics are on point.

[Saladin]

Another point though.

Night game in Toronto is highly overrated. The reason I mentioned street game is if you're going to spend 3-4 hours at a bar/club, why not spend 20-30 minutes extra on the street and sometimes get something thrown at you.

Daygame is the way to go. Girls are friendlier, and there are always girls new to town walking around.

That's how I met a cute lil stripper who I was banging for a while.... you can get all types of girls in daygame. Girls that would ignore you at night, will be very curious about you in the daytime(because you had the balls to come up and talk).

[SaltyFish]

I'm gonna be leaving NY tomorrow. I've only been in Toronto once. I was in Winnipeg a while ago so my comparison is between NY and Winnipeg.

Here was my recap from my trip in Winnipeg that I posted a while back.

- People are friendly Winnipeg wins
- Competition is weak Winnipeg wins
- Running game was easy there compare to every place i've been to Winnipeg wins
- Nothing to do there, it's boring NY easily wins
- The quality of girls is low, lots of fatties, single moms, lots of sub-par women NY easily wins
- It's not expensive there Winnipeg wins
- Being from an interesting spot gives you points (NY, Miami, Europe, etc) Winnipeg wins

Overall I wouldn't really visit Winnipeg again. I had an alright time but it was kinda like the midwest towns i've been to.