I understand wanting not to scare the cat and just have a good time and roll with the punches.
But if I remember correctly wasn't there a thread of the ROI on a date and the CPB (cost per bang)?
If we're really being ruthlessly cold it all comes down to how much TIME and MONEY you are investing in banging the girl.
Personally I've ran into this twice, and actually one was recently. http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-24128-...#pid838552
TL;DR we walk out of venue 1 (I paid for our drinks) and she's complaining she's hungry, venue 2 doesn't have any food. I fall into her frame and find a place and she gets an appetizer, I specifically tell her I've already ate, I don't want any of appetizer and also had handed my menu to the waiter. The bill comes, I don't pull out my wallet, and wait a few seconds, she ends up paying for my beer, her glass of wine, and her appetizer. I grabbed the frame back.
The second girl, was at a place that's a loungeish bar restaurant, she looked at the appetizer happy hour menu, she asked if I was hungry. I said no, I already and I was here to drink and talk not eat. She put the menu away.
To me the whole appetizer thing could be another shit test to see how much she can get away with and can reveal your intentions with her.
I also occasionally drop a line talking about how weird it is it to go on dinner dates and that the last thing I want to see is a girl eating while I'm talking to her.
I don't give a shit about paying for an appetizer, what I do care about is if it lowers my SMV in her eyes.
To me it's all about ROI but also having a good time, you have to find a balance between how much you spend on a date and how your frame/smv is.
Personally my logistics (bars) are places where it's hard to get food.
My view is you never get a girl food, never pay for it, and don't give in.
But if I remember correctly wasn't there a thread of the ROI on a date and the CPB (cost per bang)?
If we're really being ruthlessly cold it all comes down to how much TIME and MONEY you are investing in banging the girl.
Personally I've ran into this twice, and actually one was recently. http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-24128-...#pid838552
TL;DR we walk out of venue 1 (I paid for our drinks) and she's complaining she's hungry, venue 2 doesn't have any food. I fall into her frame and find a place and she gets an appetizer, I specifically tell her I've already ate, I don't want any of appetizer and also had handed my menu to the waiter. The bill comes, I don't pull out my wallet, and wait a few seconds, she ends up paying for my beer, her glass of wine, and her appetizer. I grabbed the frame back.
The second girl, was at a place that's a loungeish bar restaurant, she looked at the appetizer happy hour menu, she asked if I was hungry. I said no, I already and I was here to drink and talk not eat. She put the menu away.
To me the whole appetizer thing could be another shit test to see how much she can get away with and can reveal your intentions with her.
I also occasionally drop a line talking about how weird it is it to go on dinner dates and that the last thing I want to see is a girl eating while I'm talking to her.
I don't give a shit about paying for an appetizer, what I do care about is if it lowers my SMV in her eyes.
To me it's all about ROI but also having a good time, you have to find a balance between how much you spend on a date and how your frame/smv is.
Personally my logistics (bars) are places where it's hard to get food.
My view is you never get a girl food, never pay for it, and don't give in.