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Late bloomer at 25 needs advice!
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Late bloomer at 25 needs advice!

Quote: (01-08-2018 06:05 AM)Buffandtan Wrote:  

when I was in my teens I suffered from severe depression, I eventually overcame that but in my early 20s I have monumental self-esteem issues. so I rarely, if ever, put my self out there and actively pursue women.

I regularly get checked-out/eye-phucked by women and IOI but im too passive and shy to break out of my comfort barrier.

my biggest issue is I feel they will lose respect/interest in me when they realise how inexperienced I am for my age, so I don't do anything and the situation exacerbates itself.

Everything I highlighted is good news for you. It's good in that all of this can be fixed with an mentally. It won't happen over night, but once you finally start conquering your anxiety and fear of approaching, everything will fall into place.

If you are worried about women thinking you're experienced, and it hinders your ability to talk to women, you're in a Catch 22. If you want to gain more experience with women, you need to put yourself out there, but, if you want to put yourself out there, you want the experience necessary to do so.

Every one of us on this forum started from the beginning, regardless of age. We have all had successes and failures.

If there is one thing you will immediately learn from game; it's failure. When I started out, I got blown out of the water many times to where my self esteem was dog shit by the end of the evening.

Once you approach a bunch of times, that fear of rejection goes away and you'll end up not caring if a woman ignores or refuses to talk to you.

Like I said, this won't happen over night. You need to put in the work if you want to be successful.

You're already on your way regarding your inner game. Keep that up as the gym will give you that extra confidence. You are getting the IOI's you want, now you need to put the effort forward and put yourself out there. Next time, if you see that IOI, walk up to that woman and introduce yourself or whatever comes to mind.

Learn from trial and error. It is the only thing that will help you grow.

You're still very young. You'll be fine. Read the forum, ask questions, provide your insights, tell your stories about your approaches/dates/bangs. This is a very solid group of like minded men. Take advantage of it.

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