I wonder why? I know for a while during the Ferguson, Missouri thing they were censoring left and right, but now they seem to have gotten rid of it entirely.
Civilize the mind but make savage the body.
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:20 PM)nek Wrote:
I wonder why? I know for a while during the Ferguson, Missouri thing they were censoring left and right, but now they seem to have gotten rid of it entirely.
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:28 PM)speakeasy Wrote:ESPN did this on their site. And it worked. That being said, while anonymity certainly breeds trolls, it also allows for a level of honesty from people that is rare without it. Alot of truths get held back out of fear of social ostracism and other consequences.
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:20 PM)nek Wrote:
I wonder why? I know for a while during the Ferguson, Missouri thing they were censoring left and right, but now they seem to have gotten rid of it entirely.
Because anytime Americans can speak anonymously without active moderation, the comments will become inundated with trolls. Look at Youtube for example. The comments section is a sewer.
If you want to get rid of trolling, all you have to do is do require a Facebook signup and at least 50 friends like Tinder did. That would cut out 99% of trolling right there.
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:32 PM)nek Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:28 PM)speakeasy Wrote:ESPN did this on their site. And it worked. That being said, while anonymity certainly breeds trolls, it also allows for a level of honesty from people that is rare without it. Alot of truths get held back out of fear of social ostracism and other consequences.
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:20 PM)nek Wrote:
I wonder why? I know for a while during the Ferguson, Missouri thing they were censoring left and right, but now they seem to have gotten rid of it entirely.
Because anytime Americans can speak anonymously without active moderation, the comments will become inundated with trolls. Look at Youtube for example. The comments section is a sewer.
If you want to get rid of trolling, all you have to do is do require a Facebook signup and at least 50 friends like Tinder did. That would cut out 99% of trolling right there.
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:38 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:32 PM)nek Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:28 PM)speakeasy Wrote:ESPN did this on their site. And it worked. That being said, while anonymity certainly breeds trolls, it also allows for a level of honesty from people that is rare without it. Alot of truths get held back out of fear of social ostracism and other consequences.
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:20 PM)nek Wrote:
I wonder why? I know for a while during the Ferguson, Missouri thing they were censoring left and right, but now they seem to have gotten rid of it entirely.
Because anytime Americans can speak anonymously without active moderation, the comments will become inundated with trolls. Look at Youtube for example. The comments section is a sewer.
If you want to get rid of trolling, all you have to do is do require a Facebook signup and at least 50 friends like Tinder did. That would cut out 99% of trolling right there.
True, but they have to also worry about their brand and if a bunch of trollish youtube like comments start to take over, it makes their brand look bad. And moderating every article would take a lot of staff resources. So it may make more sense to go with a lower level of raw honesty in favor of having less moderation work to do. Imagine the workload Tuth and Roosh would have if they didn't have their one day a month signup policy and RVF got as many visitors as CNN. They'd have to have a full-time staff guy just to delete trolls. When people have to post under their real identity, they tend to behave better.
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:32 PM)nek Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:28 PM)speakeasy Wrote:ESPN did this on their site. And it worked. That being said, while anonymity certainly breeds trolls, it also allows for a level of honesty from people that is rare without it. Alot of truths get held back out of fear of social ostracism and other consequences.
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:20 PM)nek Wrote:
I wonder why? I know for a while during the Ferguson, Missouri thing they were censoring left and right, but now they seem to have gotten rid of it entirely.
Because anytime Americans can speak anonymously without active moderation, the comments will become inundated with trolls. Look at Youtube for example. The comments section is a sewer.
If you want to get rid of trolling, all you have to do is do require a Facebook signup and at least 50 friends like Tinder did. That would cut out 99% of trolling right there.
Quote: (08-24-2014 08:29 PM)azulsombra Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:38 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:32 PM)nek Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:28 PM)speakeasy Wrote:ESPN did this on their site. And it worked. That being said, while anonymity certainly breeds trolls, it also allows for a level of honesty from people that is rare without it. Alot of truths get held back out of fear of social ostracism and other consequences.
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:20 PM)nek Wrote:
I wonder why? I know for a while during the Ferguson, Missouri thing they were censoring left and right, but now they seem to have gotten rid of it entirely.
Because anytime Americans can speak anonymously without active moderation, the comments will become inundated with trolls. Look at Youtube for example. The comments section is a sewer.
If you want to get rid of trolling, all you have to do is do require a Facebook signup and at least 50 friends like Tinder did. That would cut out 99% of trolling right there.
True, but they have to also worry about their brand and if a bunch of trollish youtube like comments start to take over, it makes their brand look bad. And moderating every article would take a lot of staff resources. So it may make more sense to go with a lower level of raw honesty in favor of having less moderation work to do. Imagine the workload Tuth and Roosh would have if they didn't have their one day a month signup policy and RVF got as many visitors as CNN. They'd have to have a full-time staff guy just to delete trolls. When people have to post under their real identity, they tend to behave better.
While somewhat true i dont like this line of thinking and it is a slippery slope. We could go one step further and say when people are forced to wear nametags 24hrs they behave better(more P.C.) too. Or when people have a camera in their face at all times they behave differently. Using that logic we should all be posting on this forum using our full first and last names along. What do u think the discussions here would be like then?
Knowing feminists and all types of haters could immediately attack our businesses and cashflow would lead to a lot more silent posters and increase lurkers. Im of the opinion that if someone has something racist or politically incorrect to say they should be able to say it anonymously no matter how offensive i believe it to be personally. I rather hear all points of view and hear and be aware of how dark and sick some peoples thinking is then to hide in some PC fantasyland where everybody pretends to think the same or else they just shut up and dissenting views wont be discussed.
I like the Rooshv forum once a month registration antitroll methods. While not perfect this deters the majority of trolls.
Quote: (08-24-2014 09:35 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2014 08:29 PM)azulsombra Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:38 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:32 PM)nek Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2014 07:28 PM)speakeasy Wrote:ESPN did this on their site. And it worked. That being said, while anonymity certainly breeds trolls, it also allows for a level of honesty from people that is rare without it. Alot of truths get held back out of fear of social ostracism and other consequences.
Because anytime Americans can speak anonymously without active moderation, the comments will become inundated with trolls. Look at Youtube for example. The comments section is a sewer.
If you want to get rid of trolling, all you have to do is do require a Facebook signup and at least 50 friends like Tinder did. That would cut out 99% of trolling right there.
True, but they have to also worry about their brand and if a bunch of trollish youtube like comments start to take over, it makes their brand look bad. And moderating every article would take a lot of staff resources. So it may make more sense to go with a lower level of raw honesty in favor of having less moderation work to do. Imagine the workload Tuth and Roosh would have if they didn't have their one day a month signup policy and RVF got as many visitors as CNN. They'd have to have a full-time staff guy just to delete trolls. When people have to post under their real identity, they tend to behave better.
While somewhat true i dont like this line of thinking and it is a slippery slope. We could go one step further and say when people are forced to wear nametags 24hrs they behave better(more P.C.) too. Or when people have a camera in their face at all times they behave differently. Using that logic we should all be posting on this forum using our full first and last names along. What do u think the discussions here would be like then?
Knowing feminists and all types of haters could immediately attack our businesses and cashflow would lead to a lot more silent posters and increase lurkers. Im of the opinion that if someone has something racist or politically incorrect to say they should be able to say it anonymously no matter how offensive i believe it to be personally. I rather hear all points of view and hear and be aware of how dark and sick some peoples thinking is then to hide in some PC fantasyland where everybody pretends to think the same or else they just shut up and dissenting views wont be discussed.
I like the Rooshv forum once a month registration antitroll methods. While not perfect this deters the majority of trolls.
I'm not defending their action or supporting it, I'm just saying that having unmoderated comments creates a lot of extra work for staff. We can talk about whatever we want on Roosh V, but if you're CNN, BBC and other major news companies, it looks unprofessional to have their comments section looking like youtube with trolls disrupting any serious discussion. And that's a major problem with trolling. Sometimes I'll read a news article on CNN and the discussion starts off civil and there's some good information to learn, then a troll steps in and the whole thing turns into a shit storm and all the value goes out the window. And it happens over and over again. I can see why some companies just don't want to deal with it anymore.
While people might not be as raw in their comments when not posting anonymously, people can often still make the same points, just more tactfully. When there's a news thread on Facebook about the Ferguson rioting, it's interesting how civil the discussion is, but if you look at the same clip on youtube, it's "nigger this, nigger that, fuck niggers," etc etc. What serious news agency wants that all over their page.
Quote: (08-24-2014 09:35 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
While people might not be as raw in their comments when not posting anonymously, people can often still make the same points, just more tactfully. When there's a news thread on Facebook about the Ferguson rioting, it's interesting how civil the discussion is, but if you look at the same clip on youtube, it's "nigger this, nigger that, fuck niggers," etc etc. What serious news agency wants that all over their page.
Quote: (08-24-2014 10:41 PM)The Father Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2014 09:35 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
While people might not be as raw in their comments when not posting anonymously, people can often still make the same points, just more tactfully. When there's a news thread on Facebook about the Ferguson rioting, it's interesting how civil the discussion is, but if you look at the same clip on youtube, it's "nigger this, nigger that, fuck niggers," etc etc. What serious news agency wants that all over their page.
I dunno, I kind of like to know what people are really thinking, rather than the sanitized, sugar-coated version minorities have been hearing for centuries.
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Look at Youtube for example. The comments section is a sewer.
Quote: (08-25-2014 04:47 AM)Roosh Wrote:
They're removing comments sections because it prevents them from controlling the narrative. It's a trend that has little to do with trolls:
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Youtube comments are way better than in the past, at least for my videos. The quality is almost as good as on my blog, with very little trolling.