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01-25-2012, 02:57 AM
For a mini retirement of 1 to 2 years, I have considered Eastern Europe (Romania and Bulgaria are at the top of the list). The problem is the Schengen zone's "90-day rule" restriction, only allowing one to stay in the EU for 90 days in a 180 day period. I hate that....but as a means to "get around" this restriction, I was thinking of basing myself in an area near the eastern boundary of the EU, then when time is up, leave and go to a nearby country that is not part of the EU for 90 days, then come back into another 90 days, etc.
As an example, 90 days in Iasi (Romania), then 90 days in Chisinau (Moldova). Or, perhaps Burgas (Bulgaria) & Edirne (Turkey). These city pairs are nearby each other on the map...and costs are generally low in them too.
Is this realistic, or are the customs officials going to deny me entry because of my suspicious "back and forth" behavior? Any suggestions from those that have done this? Other thoughts?
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01-25-2012, 08:20 AM
You will find that the Schengen rules are not enforced as much in Eastern Europe as in the west.
Many expats are living in Eastern European countries with nothing more than a 90-day tourist visa
But if you want to go by the book, then consider residence/work visas
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01-25-2012, 03:25 PM
I think I've already beaten that system by being British Citizenship and an EU passport.
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01-26-2012, 12:58 PM
As someone said choose your border crossings CAREFULLY. In Eastern Europe, make sure you travel by train, car or foot over the border. If you fly you are taking a much bigger risk, they do things by the book generally at Airports, at land borders it's more like the wild west, just carry a few Euros in your pocket in case.
Ukrainian borders are pretty strict and it's advisable not to fly if you have overtstayed/broken the 90-day rule.
With regard to Ukraine I have heard of no problems with people crossing the Polish/Ukrainian border, or the Ukrainian/Moldovan border. Many people I know prefer to do the Ukrainian/Polish border on foot, as the border control is just a shed,they never cause problems. If you were on a train/bus then you may encounter problems as the guards are under the watchful eye of all your other passengers
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06-08-2012, 07:04 PM
Do you guys know if is it hard to get a temporary visa in eastern european countries? I've always wanted to stay for one year in Poland, but i wouldn't study, and i don't know if i could would there since i don't speak the language.
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06-08-2012, 07:43 PM
If you are a native English speaker, go around to language schools asking for work. They should give you a letter stating they need your skills as a native speaker. Then go apply for a work and residence permit as a freelancer. You don't actually have to work after that.
This is simplified. Teaching English will vary from country to country, you'll have to look into it.
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06-08-2012, 09:14 PM
I'm not a native english speak, my first language is spanish. I wonder how easy it is to find a job at a hostel or as a tour guide (i dont think that its too hard to study the history of a city in one week)
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06-10-2012, 08:47 AM
Does anyone know off hand, what the fine is? For overstaying your visa?
I'm in an odd situation. I overstayed the 90 days. Got a temporary residents permit.
But the permit only gave me a three month extension. And is suppose to expire at the end of the month.
But I plan to stay about two weeks into july.
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07-29-2012, 02:32 PM
so how does this work? how long do you have to leave the zone for?
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07-29-2012, 03:27 PM
Yes for example in Ukraine many people who do border runs keep a few Euros with them in the case of any eventualities. But they are only interested in those who stay over 90 days, if you do you will likely be arrested and will need to pay a fine in the region of 50 euros.
The Balkans borders are very lenient, never heard of anyone having problems
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07-29-2012, 03:47 PM
I just departed the Zone a week ago, arriving in Croatia by bus. The Croatians didn't bother to stamp my passport so as far as they're concerned, I'm not even here. Unless they arrest me and take my computer into custody and search it to find financial transactions, emails, etc. which might show when I arrived, they have no way of knowing when I arrived so I can stay here indefinitely.
Unfortunately, the flip side of that is, nobody stamped my passport upon leaving the EU, so I might have trouble trying to re-enter in 6 months. There's an entry stamp for Lisboa Portugal but no exit stamp for Slovenia. That means I can't easily prove that I left the Zone within the legal time frame.