[Hooligan Harry]

This is not about choosing money over game, game over time in the gym, time in the gym over an education, education over life experience, etc. Its about realising that everything matters and it all leads to making you a well rounded person. This bullshit that "game over everything until you die" is what needs to die. Its an unhealthy, unsustainable mindset and it sells yourself short. Not only that, it pedastalises women to the point that pussy becomes the only focus instead of being the basic commodity it is.

Game is based on certain sets of principles and behaviours. Those behaviours and principles need to be internalised. The best way to do that is to LIVE them. When you live them its natural.

You dont need to be a millionaire. You dont need to be a cover model. You dont need a harvard education. You dont need to reach a set point in your life where you are now some sort of finished product and you can unleash yourself on the world. You are never a finished product, but you need to be working on all aspects of your life so that you improve in all areas that give you an advantage not just with women but with everything. And you cannot neglect other areas of your life because you have been sucked up by a PUA lifestyle where all the guru's are telling you that the only thing that matters is how you apply their theories.

Its all important, because contrary to what crap they are selling you, looks, money, social connections, power...these ALL matter. If they did not matter, you would not be using techniques to create the impression that you already had it!!!!!! If game is more important than all that shit, why the hell are you using techniques to mimic the stuff that is not important in the first place?

And it does not matter if you are 16 or 60. Get yourself into the gym, use your time at work properly and productively, take up sports or find hobbies you enjoy, go back to school, start a sideline business, begin a new career, write a book, compose music. Its never too soon or too late. Focus on all that while you hit on bitches everywhere you can, but stop making women the sole focus and end game of your life, fit them in around everything else you are doing to improve yourself. Find other things to enjoy. When you do that, the women come much more easily because your behaviour is congruent and you are living the principles and behaviours you would otherwise be faking.

[Gmac]

(01-19-2012 12:53 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

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We get it bud. You are broke and your coping mechanism is to try and convince the world, along with yourself, that you can be a broke ass Danny DeVito and still land 10's if you know and practice mystery method. Keep living the dream, you are one in a million.

By your standards, a guy making 250K per year isn't rich. I think almost everyone on this board is broke by your standards.


Unless you are born with incredible connections, trying to be in the top .0001% income bracket is unrealistic. By definition, only a select few ever make it there. Like I implied with my joking post above, you'd be better off trying to be a dictator of a small African country. I'd say the odds are better there.

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You dont need money to get laid, but you cannot fund any sort of lifestyle that puts you where the pussy is if you are broke all the time either. And you cannot maintain a stable of whores if a few of them are not clinging to the romantic idea of you eventually settling for them.

Seriously man, if I'm making even 60K per year by the time I'm 30 with an online business, I'll be swimming in more pussy than I can handle. Pussy won't be a problem mate.

And maintaining a stable of whores...? Even discounting the novelty factor, I also think it's easier to fuck new women than it is to pay attention to the same one.


But yeah, Harry, I don't disagree with you. I'm just poking fun at the fact that this discussion about money helping a man get laid is as obvious as saying being tall and good looking will get you laid.

It's like, "No shit, Sherlock."

250k isn't rich at all, not even close.

Anyway, it seems like the wisdom is being lost in this thread now... I'll bow out.

[Hooligan Harry]

(01-19-2012 09:06 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

What I'm curious about is how HH's EE game differed from his Murkan game.

How so? In how I approach women or how I travel? Game principles are universal because its based on evo psychology, what needs to change though is just the social interaction as you try and close the chick.

If see a hot bitch Im going to try my luck. It could be a receptionist or my waitress. It could be a chick on the street or a chick in a bar or club. If I get the smallest indication of interest from her Im there like a fly to shit.

I have more time to kill when I am abroad, so I play things up. New guy in town who is there for work for a year and want someone to show me around. Someone to keep me company at lunch. Finish dinner with clients at X time, going to X bar, why not come meet me there. I dont know, I make it up on the fly?

Approaching women is pretty much the same no matter where in the world you are. Just stepping up is like 80% of it. You then just adjust to the local culture as best you can. Which normally means that its an uphill slog until you figure out what the differences or social expectations are. I get told to fuck off plenty dude. Jesus, Im often clocking double digits in approaches just to get a number or commitment to meet somewhere.

But I do my best to understand what is typical of the local culture and I dont rely too much on set techniques. You cant be that rigid when you travel.

I love Russian and EE women though and unlike back home where I go through the motions just to bang them, I find I do enjoy their company more. So half the time I actually enjoy getting to know them a bit too. It really does not feel like a chore.

[Gmac]

(01-19-2012 11:59 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(01-19-2012 09:56 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

It's discouraging to see guys think lifestyle and game are separate when they are complimentary.

....

Lifestyle is a 5 year plan (or more). It takes time to build your empire. Game starts seeing result in 5 weeks. Both are needed to see your potential, but the older guys criticizing game can do so because they've already, whether they want to admit it or not, been practicing game for over 10 years. They already have hundreds of interactions with women that they've taken for granted. To advise a 23 year old kid to forget about game and just make money is dangerous and disingenuous advice.

Start with game, build your skills, and then figure out a lifestyle where the game you've learned will make it easy and effortless.

I will go to my death bed knowing that game is king. Lifestyle alone will get you nothing, except the occasional gold-digger. Just watch "Millionaire Matchmaker," and see how these guys with amazing lifestyles can't close the deal even when the pussy is served up on a platter for them.

Game alone, on the other hand, will get you laid. You could be a guy wearing a pair of cargo shorts and a tight shirt that accentuates your pot belly, who lives in his parents' basement, but if you have a valid state ID, can approach girls, spit lyrics, and angle logistics correctly, you will have a steady stream of girls you aren't paying for.

At the end of the day, lifestyle is good is you have the game to parlay it into something. Otherwise, you're just another one of these corporate exec clowns, who drives a Bentley, lives in a Penthouse, but is married to a cow and pays for escorts on the weekends.

Ok I lied. One last comment.

Lifestyle is game, and game is lifestyle. That is all.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-19-2012 05:37 PM)CGS Wrote:  

(01-19-2012 04:51 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

No, you are getting it completely.

A guy that climbs Mount Everest, and bangs a super hot girl out of the bar?

That guy has tons of Game.

I don't care if he wears Custom Suits or a Woolly Mammoth Parka.

He is a "G" of his field.

A man worthy of respect.

A nerdy scientist that comes up with the cure for Whooping Cough and swoops fly girls? That guy is a straight Scientist G. That guy has Game.

I guess that is what having real Game comes down to: Swooping Girls and being worthy of respect.

Follow me?

I guess what I am trying to ask is what about guys who never really worried about bitches, did their own thing as far as job, hobbies, fun, etc but never really pulled massive amounts of pussy? I feel like I don't pull a lot of pussy, and I know part of it is because I tend to party a bit hard and get sloppy, but I still feel as though I'm lacking in the swooping girls part. How do those of us who feel the rest of our shit is wired tight but swooping girls is lacking bring those two into congruence?

I get what you are saying.

You are successful in other aspects of your life but you are not as successful with women.

You are going to get there the same way you got successful in other areas of your life: hard work.

You sound like the perfect cat to hire Mixx.

[Iceinthewater]

(01-19-2012 09:44 AM)CGS Wrote:  

(01-18-2012 11:13 PM)Iceinthewater Wrote:  

Same with finance. Sure I took accounting in college. I have a few investment books I've tried to read...but it all sounds very boring and abstract. I know I'm not alone in this. There's a difference between reading a book and having an uncle or older brother or a friend's dad that is happy to explain things and answer questions.

Unfortunately there aren't very many "financial mentors" out there. My grandfather became very good at trading stocks in his later years. He died before I was old enough to have a real talk with him. My dad describes himself as "risk-adverse" and has never been very willing to share wisdom with me for some reason. Maybe he doesn't think he has any - he's very tight lipped.

I think at this point in my life (30) I need to start looking for a financial mentor, even if it's just a professor in an investing nightclass at the community college...

I've been thinking of starting a Q&A thread for folks on here about financial markets. It seems like a lot of folks here are interested investing and hopefully I can give back some by sharing my expertise.

(01-19-2012 01:22 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

By definition, no more than .0001% of us will ever be in the top .0001% income bracket. This isn't self-defeatist talk, this is called math.

(01-19-2012 03:20 AM)T and A Man Wrote:  

It is a list based on taxable, personable income.

Rich people don't file a lot on their personal tax return, their cash flow isn't attributed to them personally.

That is why companies and trusts were invented.

You guys are conflating income and net worth. Some of you also need to learn about the time-value of money and opportunity cost. Furthermore, capital gains is not considered in those income studies. Explanation follows

Net worth is the total value of your assets less your liabilities. So if you own a home, an investment portfolio, a bank account, an art collection and 6 racing horses worth 100 million dollars in aggregate your assets = $100mm. If you owe on a credit card, some loans and a margin account $ 37.5 million dollars, your liabilities = $37.5mm. So, your net worth is $100mm-$37.5mm=$62.5mm

Now, let's assume your income for the year is $150k. You might think, shit how does this guy afford all of this oppulence? The answer is 1 of 2 things. Capital Gains, i.e. money made on investments which is not included in your income and is taxed differently. The second way is leverage.

Leverage is where you incur debt to amplify your returns (which can be negative). Now, if I have an investment that I think is going to yield me an annual return of 15% and I can borrow money at 5%, don't you think it would be wise of me to borrow the fuck out of other people's money to make more of my own? The answer is unequivocaly YES. And here is the quantitative reasoning:

Assume the above case where I can invest at 15% and borrow at 5% and interest is calculated once at the end of the year.

I invest $100 at 15%
I can get 10:1 leverage, ie for every dollar I invest I can borrow 10.
So I borrow $1000 and invest it at 15% paying a 5% rate on this debt.
So, on the borrowed $1000 I yield 15%-5%=10% annually on this investment. This amount is equal to $100. (The detailed calculation is that I earned 15% on $1000, which = $150, and I had to pay 5% which is = $50).

Now, at the end of the year I decided to liquidate my investment and cash out.

What was my initial investment amount? It was $100. The $1000 was the lenders money.

How much did my investment return? It returned 15% of $100 + $100 on the lender's money... so 15+100 = $115.

What is my Return on Investment (ROI for short)? It is 115/100 = 115%.

I used somebody elses money to make a much larger return on my investment. That example hilights several important financial concepts, namely opportunity cost and the time value of money.

Sorry for the financial intervention, but if you want to talk about building your lifestyle and money and investments are going to be part of the discussion it would be prudent to have that shit right and understand what you're talking about.

EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the example investment was capital gains and not income...

See now that's what I'm talking about. There needs to be more of this - simple, straightforward principles explained in a clean logical flow, so that the reader can apply the principles in a variety of contexts.

As far as tightening up your game - find a mentor. Either a friend who's willing to talk and go out with you, or a pro. Finding a pro dating coach is tricky because a lot of guys who claim to be experts are frauds, as I can attest from meeting a ton of them in my field.

Mixx is doing lifestyle coaching as well, so he may have more insight on how to bridge your success in life to success with women.

[Saladin]

(01-19-2012 06:13 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I got way more "lifestyle > game" when I read how often you kids are going out.

4-5 nights a week.

That's crazy.

In my early 20's, I was too busy building my career. I went out 1-2 a month.

Now I can goof off a lot more.

You can't build the lifestyle if you're out all of the time.

You can if you do it all.

I used to think that it was impossible to make cash plus go out 7 days a week.

But Tyler Durden from RSD goes out 7 days a week while running a full time business, going to the gym, and also raising a family.

Dude manages his time like a boss.

His game is insane.

I plan to go out 7 days a week until University starts for me in Fall(been doing day game last 15 out of 17 days). I'll also be doing this while hustling to make cash online. I'm not making much online right now(10-25 bucks a day) but by summer I want to get to 100 dollars a day(3000 a month).

Tyler Durden is living proof that if you manage your time well enough and go hard you can balance work and game.

[pitt]

(01-20-2012 01:50 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

(01-19-2012 06:13 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I got way more "lifestyle > game" when I read how often you kids are going out.

4-5 nights a week.

That's crazy.

In my early 20's, I was too busy building my career. I went out 1-2 a month.

Now I can goof off a lot more.

You can't build the lifestyle if you're out all of the time.

You can if you do it all.

I used to think that it was impossible to make cash plus go out 7 days a week.

But Tyler Durden from RSD goes out 7 days a week while running a full time business, going to the gym, and also raising a family.

Dude manages his time like a boss.

His game is insane.

I plan to go out 7 days a week until University starts for me in Fall(been doing day game last 15 out of 17 days). I'll also be doing this while hustling to make cash online. I'm not making much online right now(10-25 bucks a day) but by summer I want to get to 100 dollars a day(3000 a month).

Tyler Durden is living proof that if you manage your time well enough and go hard you can balance work and game.

I am with Mike on this.

I think some of you just spend too much of your time going out.

Guys that party extremely hard during their early, mid and late 20s, will hardly be as successful as the ones that focus more in their businesses.

It doesnt mean you cant party, of course you can. I have done that a lot during my teens and till recently, but now i became more focused in making money. And i noticed how much this helped me in saving money and knowing about other businesses.

I like how HH puts it, in relation to focus in every single area of your life, i think some of us are just extremely focused with going after women.

[alecks]

“He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still”
-Lao Tzu.

[Stitch]

/shrug.

Part of it is probably fairly simple, actually. Guys who only focus on "picking up women" and don't push for success in other areas of of their life are just as bad as guys who focus only on making money and don't bother to develop the social skills god gave a donut. It's like someone who claims they're into fitness but only does dumbbell curls; you may have great arms, and that may get you a couple of nice looks, but it's pretty obvious that you're out of balance.

It's the person who realizes the simple truth that actively practicing something makes you better at it and then applies that philosophy to all areas of their life that comes out ahead in the long run.

[Riker]

:55 - 1:04 is hilarious!

[Saladin]

(01-20-2012 07:17 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(01-20-2012 01:50 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

(01-19-2012 06:13 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I got way more "lifestyle > game" when I read how often you kids are going out.

4-5 nights a week.

That's crazy.

In my early 20's, I was too busy building my career. I went out 1-2 a month.

Now I can goof off a lot more.

You can't build the lifestyle if you're out all of the time.

You can if you do it all.

I used to think that it was impossible to make cash plus go out 7 days a week.

But Tyler Durden from RSD goes out 7 days a week while running a full time business, going to the gym, and also raising a family.

Dude manages his time like a boss.

His game is insane.

I plan to go out 7 days a week until University starts for me in Fall(been doing day game last 15 out of 17 days). I'll also be doing this while hustling to make cash online. I'm not making much online right now(10-25 bucks a day) but by summer I want to get to 100 dollars a day(3000 a month).

Tyler Durden is living proof that if you manage your time well enough and go hard you can balance work and game.

I am with Mike on this.

I think some of you just spend too much of your time going out.

Guys that party extremely hard during their early, mid and late 20s, will hardly be as successful as the ones that focus more in their businesses.

It doesnt mean you cant party, of course you can. I have done that a lot during my teens and till recently, but now i became more focused in making money. And i noticed how much this helped me in saving money and knowing about other businesses.

I like how HH puts it, in relation to focus in every single area of your life, i think some of us are just extremely focused with going after women.

Time Management....

Going out 7 days a week doesn't mean going out for 4 hours a night, I just mean doing at least a few approaches a day during a day game session. The important thing is doing them.

MiXX does 3 approaches a day and he's very successful.

Most kids my age waste hours smoking weed and playing video games. I focus my efforts on GBG- Game, Business, Gym.

[MikeCF]

(01-20-2012 01:50 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

You can if you do it all.

I used to think that it was impossible to make cash plus go out 7 days a week.

But Tyler Durden from RSD goes out 7 days a week while running a full time business, going to the gym, and also raising a family.

Dude manages his time like a boss.

His game is insane.

I lived in San Francisco and saw RSD guys "in the field."

If you think his game is amazing, then I have some Flavor-Aid to share with you.

(He seems like an otherwise nice guy, though.)

[MikeCF]

(01-20-2012 12:42 PM)torontokid Wrote:  

Time Management....

Going out 7 days a week doesn't mean going out for 4 hours a night, I just mean doing at least a few approaches a day during a day game session. The important thing is doing them.

MiXX does 3 approaches a day and he's very successful.

Most kids my age waste hours smoking weed and playing video games. I focus my efforts on GBG- Game, Business, Gym.

If you live in a city like San Francisco, yes, you can get three numbers on your lunch hour.

That is, in fact, what I did.

If that's what people mean when they say they are "going out" 4-5 nights a week, then I repudiate my earlier statement.

My intuition, however, is that "going out" entails at least a of hours, several nights a week.

In your 20's, that's a bad move.

I would suggest you ask guys, who are in their 30's or older and living the life, what they were doing in their early 20's.

[Samseau]

(01-19-2012 01:52 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

I am not trying to fight with you or call you out, so please dont see it as that, tone is very hard to convey online. I just do not believe that its healthy to resign yourself to things so quickly. Not only that, but there are almost 10 million millionaire families in the USA. Far more than .00001% you are talking about, and its was over 12 million in 2006. Australia has about 200 000 INDIVIDUAL millionaires now, and we are only 22 million people.

You said 250K per year is nothing. 250K over 5 years is over a million in savings. Are you backpedaling here?

How much income does one need to be considered rich? A million per year? If so, that goes into the .0001% category.

For the math nerds:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60717.html

235,000 People made over one million per year in 2009.

There is currently 307 million people in the USA. Actually, my .0001% number is probably a little too high. The percentage is a bit smaller.

Quote:

How exactly can you develop a game that you can take internationally though? This is again the congruency that I am speaking of bro. I have travelled extensively and for the last 15 years, both for work and pleasure. Game as it is in the west completely fucks out in Eastern Europe for example. Your entire approach has to adjust to the local culture, sometimes dramatically, sometimes marginally and this is true of everywhere you go. Its all trial and error really and much of it needs to be tailored to you as an individual. The only thing you can take is your lifestyle, which is who you are, and the adjust to the locals.

I shit you not, dancing is an international language. I've picked up girls who have spoke little to no English before. I don't have too much travel experience, but I'm very confident that I'll be okay in other cultures.

Long before I lost my virginity, I knew game would be successful for me, and right now, long before I am able to travel extensively, I know dancing will be my saving grace.

After that it's up to Google Translate.

Quote:

I cant help but think a lot of what you believe is based more on what you are reading and not based on what you have experienced first hand. There is no shame in that at all, but you are shooting yourself in the foot if you go through life with blinkers on too. The biggest problem with the whole PUA industry is that there are a ton of hacks out there who are in the business of selling you garbage. Be careful not to take everything they say as gospel because they are preaching a message you wish were true.

I argue off first-hand knowledge.

Quote:

How old are you Sam?

Between 0-99.

[Roosh]

The 250k is nothing comment can be stricken from the public record.

If you make $250,000 a year, you are in the top 0.0001% in the world.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Hooligan: If I were to read between the lines of your posts, I wanted to ask if you sponsor the women in your harem. Not so much if you think you sponsor women (since money is not important to you), but if they think it. I know this type of arrangement is popular and more-or-less accepted with Russian women, which you have the most experience with.

[Hencredible Casanova]

I really recommend that all men read "Giacomo Casanova: The History of My Life." What makes his story particularly remarkable, aside from his staggeringly high number of sexual exploits (which are detailed extensively in the book), is the fact that he was quite the Renaissance Man. In his time he was a diplomat, businessman, trainee priest, traveler, prisoner, magician, confidence man, gambler, professional entertainer, and charlatan. He financed business projects, organized lotteries, wrote opera libretti, and dabbled in high politics.

In essence, he signified the five tenets of being a Renaissance Man:

1. Be Well-Dressed

2. Be Well-Spoken

3. Be Well-Read

4. Be Well-Traveled

5. Be Well-Balanced

Truly an inspiration.

[Deluge]

(01-20-2012 04:45 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

I really recommend that all men read "Giacomo Casanova: The History of My Life." What makes his story particularly remarkable, aside from his staggeringly high number of sexual exploits (which are detailed extensively in the book), is the fact that he was quite the Renaissance Man. In his time he was a diplomat, businessman, trainee priest, traveler, prisoner, magician, confidence man, gambler, professional entertainer, and charlatan. He financed business projects, organized lotteries, wrote opera libretti, and dabbled in high politics.

In essence, he signified the five tenets of being a Renaissance Man:

1. Be Well-Dressed

2. Be Well-Spoken

3. Be Well-Read

4. Be Well-Traveled

5. Be Well-Balanced

Truly an inspiration.

By that definition, most International Playboy's are Renaissance Men. Which makes sense, Casanova was one himself. Maybe even the first.

Another word for a Renaissance Man is a Polymath.

[pitt]

(01-20-2012 12:42 PM)torontokid Wrote:  

(01-20-2012 07:17 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(01-20-2012 01:50 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

(01-19-2012 06:13 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I got way more "lifestyle > game" when I read how often you kids are going out.

4-5 nights a week.

That's crazy.

In my early 20's, I was too busy building my career. I went out 1-2 a month.

Now I can goof off a lot more.

You can't build the lifestyle if you're out all of the time.

You can if you do it all.

I used to think that it was impossible to make cash plus go out 7 days a week.

But Tyler Durden from RSD goes out 7 days a week while running a full time business, going to the gym, and also raising a family.

Dude manages his time like a boss.

His game is insane.

I plan to go out 7 days a week until University starts for me in Fall(been doing day game last 15 out of 17 days). I'll also be doing this while hustling to make cash online. I'm not making much online right now(10-25 bucks a day) but by summer I want to get to 100 dollars a day(3000 a month).

Tyler Durden is living proof that if you manage your time well enough and go hard you can balance work and game.

I am with Mike on this.

I think some of you just spend too much of your time going out.

Guys that party extremely hard during their early, mid and late 20s, will hardly be as successful as the ones that focus more in their businesses.

It doesnt mean you cant party, of course you can. I have done that a lot during my teens and till recently, but now i became more focused in making money. And i noticed how much this helped me in saving money and knowing about other businesses.

I like how HH puts it, in relation to focus in every single area of your life, i think some of us are just extremely focused with going after women.

Time Management....

Going out 7 days a week doesn't mean going out for 4 hours a night, I just mean doing at least a few approaches a day during a day game session. The important thing is doing them.

MiXX does 3 approaches a day and he's very successful.

Most kids my age waste hours smoking weed and playing video games. I focus my efforts on GBG- Game, Business, Gym.

When we say going out 7 days a week, of course we mean going clubbing 7 days a week.

Anyway, i just saw that Tyler video, the girls seem to be very friendly. Do you know what city was that in?

[Hooligan Harry]

(01-20-2012 04:42 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

The 250k is nothing comment can be stricken from the public record.

If you make $250,000 a year, you are in the top 0.0001% in the world.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Hooligan: If I were to read between the lines of your posts, I wanted to ask if you sponsor the women in your harem. Not so much if you think you sponsor women (since money is not important to you), but if they think it. I know this type of arrangement is popular and more-or-less accepted with Russian women, which you have the most experience with.

250k a year makes you a beast in Thailand. It means nothing in Australia or the USA in comparison. The difference between 100k and 250k is marginal in lifestyle in developed economies. Thats the whole point. Once the jumps become substantial then you see noticeable differences. Everyone says money means nothing because they are looking at a corporate wage slave in an upper income bracket.

This is not wealth and its not a major advantage, it just helps.

I dont sponsor women at all, not even Russian women. I wont do it out of principle and I also have never needed to. If I were married and in my 50's, then I would probably be considering it or doing it. Russian women expect sponsorship when they are a mistress, and probably rightly so. The difference is that I respect their customs and culture which is one where men pay. Western concepts mean nothing there. So Ill pick up a meal or take them to a club, but Im not about to buy a chick clothes or give her cash. I might as well be fucking hookers and saving myself the drama if that were the case.

They see it as weakness when you cant afford to buy a meal, but they also see it as weakness when you become nothing more than a wallet to them. Most guys dont get this and think they are gold diggers because of it.

As for sponsoring western women? Christ, if you are under 45 and you are not coming right in any western country you have a few problems. Its far easier to get laid in my own backyard than it is when I travel. I dont chase women abroad for easy sex, I chase them because I prefer them.

Fuck buddy arrangements are easier to maintain for longer periods of time for me with my approach. I dont like ONS's because I like to raw dog, but I also find the sex is far better. There are women that I bang on and off for years, others come and go in a month.

I have my principles. If I invite anyone to dinner or lunch, Ill pay. Im not about to throw basic manners aside for theoretical advantages preached by PUA's. It can be a man or a woman, its something I do. Sometimes Ill pick up the tab of a group dinner, other times someone else will. I dont give it any thought.

Are women around because I have money?

Of course they are, because money matters to them just like looks do. Its the way it is. They are hoping that access to the honey pot is going to lead to something more and most end up pushing for something more serious. But most resign themselves to the fact that I will not be anything serious. Some stick around and try and make me see the light, others understand it quickly and move on. But being in shape, with a large social network and some money in my pocket means that Im not exactly easy to replace either. So they tag along, but for the most part they never get more than a night out from me.

I come from a blue collar background Roosh, like many working class Australians. So its not like I am born with a silver spoon in my mouth and have not seen the other side of it all. I built everything I have and I have seen the influence its had on women as a whole as my lot in life has imporved.

If you think you have reason to be hate fucking women now, wait until you believe it to your core that they are all whores. Anyone who has come from nothing and had moderate success before, and has gone onto something and is having an easy time of it now, will attest to this.

I dont come here for game advice, I come here because I like to travel and I like pussy. I also make no apologies for not wanting endless ONS's either. I have neither time, patience or inclination for them anymore either.

[Roosh]

I appreciate the clarification. As my travels take me further east, the dating rules change and lines become blurry. It's good to get firsthand confirmation from guys like yourself. The East is a different beast.

[Jalouse]

I'm still not on the same page that 250k is nothing, if you're young and single and just blow the lot you can have a hell of a lifestyle on that kind of money. I don't make 250k a year and I have 7 figures in the bank so over time it can build up to real money, you just have to think long term and don't blow it on a lot of useless stuff to impress people.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(01-20-2012 04:42 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

The 250k is nothing comment can be stricken from the public record.

If you make $250,000 a year, you are in the top 0.0001% in the world.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

That's a good link. Really puts things in perspective.

[pitt]

(01-21-2012 11:38 AM)Jalouse Wrote:  

I'm still not on the same page that 250k is nothing, if you're young and single and just blow the lot you can have a hell of a lifestyle on that kind of money. I don't make 250k a year and I have 7 figures in the bank so over time it can build up to real money, you just have to think long term and don't blow it on a lot of useless stuff to impress people.

You have over one million dollars in the bank? Damn....If you dont mind me asking it, how old are you?

[Jalouse]

(01-21-2012 11:45 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 11:38 AM)Jalouse Wrote:  

I'm still not on the same page that 250k is nothing, if you're young and single and just blow the lot you can have a hell of a lifestyle on that kind of money. I don't make 250k a year and I have 7 figures in the bank so over time it can build up to real money, you just have to think long term and don't blow it on a lot of useless stuff to impress people.

You have over one million dollars in the bank? Damn....If you dont mind me asking it, how old are you?

Late 30's but hey don't worry by Harry's standards I'm just above the poverty line