Quote: (08-23-2014 12:51 PM)OnlyMarryInTajikistan Wrote:
I grew up in Madrid.
I would seriously advise again travel there for game purposes. The girls have become significantly uglier in the past few years and have fully assumed Western culture and attitude, they are covered in tattoos and look like men. They behave like men aswell. Even for a good-looking man with game, the amount of attitude you will have to sift through there is astounding. If you do have game, focus on day game as Spanish men are wonderful at inflating the egos of women in nightclubs, and even then your ROI will be significantly lower that other countries. ONS is certainly possible, but you are far more likely to get it from the street than from a nightclub.
The girls are R-selected, meaning a cold approach will be mostly sexual. She has little interest in romance or a relationship. If she goes out on a date with you, it is either for sex or out of boredom, not for a relationship, unless she is a post-wall husband-hunter. But, at the same time, ASD is high due to the culture, and you must navigate the social-circle problem, in which girls put much emphasis on what friends think. They are becoming easier and easier, but they are still significantly tougher than other countries, for no additional reward.
They are princesses. They are probably the most entitled in Europe, a 5 has standards higher than a Russian 10. They believe men exist only to serve them. This translates to an incredibly unpleasant attitude, among the worst I have encountered in my travels. In fact, the case could be made that they are worse than American women. Take an American woman, make her even more unpleasant and triple the difficulty of getting her into bed and you have a Spanish girl.
Travelling there for game is kamikaze. There is no point, but if you still want to, I would advise you to move quickly, and try to get everything done and settled before the friends can have a say in it. You must subliminally convince her that fast sex with strangers is ok and then act on that buying temperature ASAP. The friends are the real problem, which is the reason she can be warm on approach and then almost always flake. You can have good results but your game must be very advanced for a very low reward.
I have lived in Madrid for a while, and I can back up everything said here. Madrid is awful for meeting girls. The girls are the least attractive that I have seen in Europe, and they have terrible attitudes. It is really amazing getting such attitude from such painfully mediocre girls. Also, they don't speak English. At all. And they are unimpressed even if you speak fluent Spanish. Also, I have met several Ukrainian and Russian girls here for vacation, and they were just brutal talking about how unattractive Spanish girls are. One said that she didn't understand how they could procreate, because the women were so unattractive. And Madrid is one of the gayest city in Europe, if not the gayest. So, in short, don't come.
If you really are going to come, here are some recommendations. First, focus on tourists. Spanish girls are a lot of work and totally not worth it. Sol during the day, and at night, is a good spot to talk to girls on the street. People tend to congregate in the square. You can meet some tourists girls by just walking up and talking to them. The problem is that promoters trying to bring them to clubs will talk to them by the dozen, so they are often wary of strangers. They are two almost identical Irish Pubs on Calle Espoz y Mina, just off Calle Mayor, which are okay. Lots of foreigners are there and they speak okay English. Another place that is okay is Studio 54. It is another Irish pub with a big dance floor in the basement. There will often be foreign students there, and it is cheap. It is between Sol and Gran Via, just off of Calle Montera (the pedestrian street filled with prostitutes).
As people have mentioned, Kapital is a huge, 7 story club. They have different types of music on each floor, and a rooftop area to smoke that is open in the summer. There are almost always people between Thursday and Saturday night at Kapital but drinks are expensive for Madrid (10 euro each). I would concentrate on girls smoking, as most girls aren't receptive to dance game.
If you want to see the best talent that Madrid has to offer (a low bar, but still) I would recommend Gabana. It is located in the Salamanca area, the trendiest and most expensive part of Madrid. But girls will not be receptive unless you get bottle service and can invite them into the VIP area.
Again, if you do come, best of luck. And may God have mercy on your soul.