[anewtypedude]

So I saw the doctor needing help with game thread and decided to create my own one. Okay I am not a professor yet but will be in a few years, but I am an instructor right now and would really like to bang some of my students. I've had students texting me all the time, coming to my office and rubbing their feet against me, and asking me to go to their home for vacation. But here are a couple of problems:

Problem 1: I don't really want to face disciplinary action for banging them. Couple of years ago, a professor at my department got fired for asking a student out - FOR ASKING A STUDENT OUT! So basically blowing out with approaching or escalating on a student could cost me my job.

Problem 2: I get so many ostensible IOIs, but I just don't know if they are real IOIs just attempts to ingratiate for good grades and letters of recommendation.

Problem 3: I don't want a relationship. There are many stories of instructor and student getting to know each other through a class the instructor taught and went on to get married (e.g. the movie The Beautiful Mind). But I have a long career ahead of me so I just want the bang. And again, there are repercussions if a student becomes disillusioned.

Problem 4: It is actually okay to date "former" students, but the problem is that the "professor crush" almost always fade once they stopped being my students. It is almost as if they only are attracted to me because I have higher perceived value over them while they are still in school, and this attraction fades once they got out of school. Them women and their natural tendencies!

Is there anyone in similar situation that can offer some advice?

[Hibiscus]

Once you get a bad rep., it's there forever. Sure you could take the chance high-rolling it, but is it worth it? Think worse case scenario of getting fired. That WILL come up should you go for a position anywhere else. With a little bit of self control and so many other options, there's no need to risk it big.

[Parlay44]

That really sucks man. I'd really love to smash out some hot young tail if I were in your position. I think you can pull it off if you're careful. The guy that got fired was probably hitting on a girl that wasn't interested. Women are very good at projecting interest when they want something like good grades or a letter of recommendation like you said. Some may flirt with you just to see if they can get you because they know you can't do anything about it.

As for problem 4 I see it as more you have some power over them then having value. Value is more about having money, access to resources, etc. Women are attracted to power.

Sounds like you need to learn to read them a little better. Is there any social setting you can hang out with them outside of the classroom? Change the venue and look for differences in behavior. Do they only act interested in one venue verses another? Do they act differently when they're alone with you verses around their girlfriends or classmates? I think deciphering social dynamics is the key here.

[kimleebj]

(12-28-2011 02:49 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

Is there anyone in similar situation that can offer some advice?

You clearly know this is dangerous territory. The whole point of game is to give yourself more options. You just need to learn to project your high value to beautiful women who are not your current students.

I remember two cases from early in my Ivy career.

Case 1) A young math instructor "mentors" his 17-year-old freshman student, admits to exchanging voicemail messages, but denies a sexual relationship. She became emotionally messed up and dropped out of school after one semester. He was not renewed and complained about being unemployably stigmatized.

Case 2) A divorced professor gets an e-mail from a 30-year-old acquaintance interested in graduate studies. She flies to the university, visits his office, and they leave through a window (!) to go for a walk. He tries to kiss her off-campus, and she gets offended. He apologizes for the misunderstanding and ultimately reimburses her airfare. One year later she files a complaint. She never applied for admission at his school or any place else, but the university takes a formal complaint because she was a "potential applicant".

[tenderman100]

I have done university teaching on and off for the last 20 years.

I have only banged one ex-student, and that was over a year after I had her in my class, and she had already graduated. Even then I was very hesitant, but she was pretty together and it was only about the sex.

Bottom line: DO NOT FUCK YOUR STUDENTS!!

In fact, do not respond to sexual overtures or IOIs from your students. Ever. The risk is way too great for the reward.

[Lothario]

Hello Professor anewtypedude : 100 % agree with do not mess it up with the Students . It is very hard to control yourself though when young poon is throwing themselves at you and you have power over them and can't do anything because of stupid rules and regulations

I have been brain storming for a while how to put my teaching skills to get me some poon, I have been thinking if Teaching in SEA or SA or giving few Lectures as a visiting professor from USA will give you instant DHV and rules are more lax there or you don't care as you don't live there ?

If any one has played that angle, do tell on how to infiltrate a very specialized teaching angle in South America ........

[Giovonny]

I have worked at various colleges and universities. I have banged many students. Could I get in trouble for doing it? Yes, but I do it anyways. It is a bit risky but I've had great luck over the past 8 years. I average 2-3 students a year. Once these girls get to know you a little and see you around, they can really come on strong. I've had beautiful young girls email me, leave me messages, slip me their number, etc., etc. It helps that I am usually one of the youngest (looking) staff members on campus. I even got a blowjob in the closet in my department once, from a 19yo exchange student.

I think what has helped me is that I don't really chase any girls on campus. I just wait for the ones who are really into me. The ones who stare at me with the "come fuck me" eyes and eventually they just come to my office and give me their number. Many of these girls have a "professor fetish". They want to fuck a teacher. Its like a fantasy for them. I would always hear them talking about witch professors they thought was cute. Its just like being the bartender at a bar, you have instant social proof.

Like I said, I would let the girls choose me. If they were just all over me and practically begging me to bang them, I would. Luckily, I never had any problems. I was very careful to avoid any and all types of drama. But, I never got any drama. I made it seem like I was doing these girls a favor. They had pursued me and I made little or no effort throughout the seduction process. Maybe this is why they never complained. I banged the shit out of them and I was very nice to them. I made sure I gave them no reason to complain.

This happens at every school out there. I have had many conversations with male professors and they always mentioned their strategy for banging students. I never mentioned it first but these guys always would. I think, because I was young, they knew I would be banging students.

This is very common at certain schools. I heard this is very big a Harvard. Its like an inside joke at Harvard among the male teachers. Alot of these guys are intellectual celebrities and girls come from all over the world to take their classes, what do you think is gonna happen!?

Female professors do it too. Its the dirty little secret of higher education.

That being said, Its not worth losing your job. If you care about your job, don't do it. Wait til they graduate. I didn't care about my job so I was more daring. I knew I would be changing careers anyways, so it didn't matter to me.

Something to think about is..

Tenure - Once you get tenure status, its very difficult to fire you, even for banging students, maybe you wait a few years til you get tenured. But, every school has different policies so you have to check the policy for your school.


I have also taught in high school and of course those girls were too young. But, I would run into them around town after they graduated and I banged a few of them too.

I have also taught English and that was a joke. Many of the foreign teachers were banging their Brazilian students but these were all adults.

I have told you of the success I've had but.... this is nothing to play around with! If you care about your job, be very, very, careful. Choose the girls wisely, stay away from the crazy ones, pick girls who are emotionally stable and just have a "thing" for you. Don't chase them aggressively. If they want you bad enough, they will let you know. Be careful!

[anewtypedude]

Very interesting stories Giovanni. How exactly did you get the bang if you just let them chase you? You will eventually have to escalate physically if you want to bang them, or do let them escalate too?

Btw I am also a very young looking instructor, many students couldn't believe I am teaching a class. Some older students even got pissed because they thought the university hired an undergraduate to teach a course, lol.

This one student invited me to her house for vacation last year. I met her parent and partied with her friends but I didn't dare escalate on her because I was scared as fuck for the drama. I think she eventually got pissed because she thought something was going to happen...

[Tuthmosis]

(12-28-2011 02:49 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

Problem 1: I don't really want to face disciplinary action for banging them. Couple of years ago, a professor at my department got fired for asking a student out - FOR ASKING A STUDENT OUT! So basically blowing out with approaching or escalating on a student could cost me my job.

You want it all. This situation is just like raw-dogging and STDs: you either take the risk or you don't. Pick your priorities.

The only thing you can do is take calculated gambles (prospects who you don't think will snitch) and avoid being really public about it. At the same time, you can't be so paranoid, you bring something on.

That's really the bottom line.

[anewtypedude]

There is this cute female student. Usually aloof as hell, but turns into the sweetest little thing when she comes in for office hour. This one time she was having a chat with me in my office, two male students came in and literally start hitting on her, she did a 180 personality change and gave them the "fuck off" stare, then did a reverse 180 personality change to chat up with me again. She gave me her number and would shoot me random text messages.

Safe or not?

[gds555]

Here's an important question: Are you teaching in a field where there are hundreds of applicants for every college teaching job--say, sociology or English literature--and therefore you need the institution more than it needs you? Or are you teaching in some field, probably quantitative or semi-quantitative in nature, where there aren't so many applicants, so that the institution may need you more than you need it? I'd think that that would have a bearing on how much mercy you can expect if you get into trouble, and consequently on how much risk you can afford to take.

[at350zguyy]

definitely dont get involved with. one of the new assistant professors in my department started doing this and it cost him his job. his fantastic CV is tainted and theres a brilliant guy on the street with no job now.

[kimleebj]

(12-28-2011 03:41 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I have worked at various colleges and universities. ...
male professors ... always mentioned their strategy for banging students.

This is taboo in professional schools at Research I universities. On the other hand, surveys show female graduate students in psychology often have sex with their male professors. I know the wife of a community college philosophy professor in an open marriage. Supposedly her husband gets explicit e-mails from women students, and regularly dates them. What type of department and school are you talking about?

[anewtypedude]

I am at a major research institution (30000+ students) and doing social sciences (so the girls are definitely hot). And I definitely need the school more than they need me, lol.

Even more, I only got into game because my research led me to it.

[Beyond Borders]

A lady prof from my college buy me a beer and hit on me in a bar once before I realized who she was. Kind of cute with a bad ass lil' body but had a lazy eye. hahha Funny thing is that once I passed a room and realized she was in there teaching, I was kicking myself in the ass for not pursuing it when I had the opportunity. Never took any of her classes and never bumped into her out again. Point being that us guys have a thing about it too.

[Samseau]

(12-28-2011 06:17 PM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

There is this cute female student. Usually aloof as hell, but turns into the sweetest little thing when she comes in for office hour. This one time she was having a chat with me in my office, two male students came in and literally start hitting on her, she did a 180 personality change and gave them the "fuck off" stare, then did a reverse 180 personality change to chat up with me again. She gave me her number and would shoot me random text messages.

Safe or not?

Safe, but play it cool. Make up a pretext to meet her somewhere far away from campus (say you meet her in a downtown coffee shop to study "social behavior"). Then seduce her and bring her back to your place. She won't blab if you play it smooth. She might expect better grades though. So give her an A.

[anewtypedude]

(12-29-2011 12:44 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(12-28-2011 06:17 PM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

There is this cute female student. Usually aloof as hell, but turns into the sweetest little thing when she comes in for office hour. This one time she was having a chat with me in my office, two male students came in and literally start hitting on her, she did a 180 personality change and gave them the "fuck off" stare, then did a reverse 180 personality change to chat up with me again. She gave me her number and would shoot me random text messages.

Safe or not?

Safe, but play it cool. Make up a pretext to meet her somewhere far away from campus (say you meet her in a downtown coffee shop to study "social behavior"). Then seduce her and bring her back to your place. She won't blab if you play it smooth. She might expect better grades though. So give her an A.

Forgot to mention that she's got a beta bf who was also one of my students, who does nothing but follow her around and gets way worse grades than she does, and no, I am unbiased when it comes to grading. The only time when he's not following her around is when she comes to my office

[Beyond Borders]

(12-29-2011 02:35 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

(12-29-2011 12:44 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(12-28-2011 06:17 PM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

There is this cute female student. Usually aloof as hell, but turns into the sweetest little thing when she comes in for office hour. This one time she was having a chat with me in my office, two male students came in and literally start hitting on her, she did a 180 personality change and gave them the "fuck off" stare, then did a reverse 180 personality change to chat up with me again. She gave me her number and would shoot me random text messages.

Safe or not?

Safe, but play it cool. Make up a pretext to meet her somewhere far away from campus (say you meet her in a downtown coffee shop to study "social behavior"). Then seduce her and bring her back to your place. She won't blab if you play it smooth. She might expect better grades though. So give her an A.

Forgot to mention that she's got a beta bf who was also one of my students, who does nothing but follow her around and gets way worse grades than she does, and no, I am unbiased when it comes to grading. The only time when he's not following her around is when she comes to my office

I'd just say don't be too forward. Bait her subtly with the text messages and let her be the agressor. If she texts you on a party night, mention where you're at (if you're out somewhere), and if she shows interest in showing or just shows up go with it. The last thing you want to do is push when she's just looking for attention.

Also, what is your game like, and most importantly, your self assurance around women? I imagine you have pretty decent confidence and social skills to speak in front of rooms all the time as a prof, but will this hot girl you just banged sitting there right in front of you make you awkward at all? If not, can you honestly say that no matter which direction the situations goes?

Because if you're game is not trump tight yet, especially when it comes to inner game, this could really affect your work even if no one ever finds out.

If that side of it is all good for you, fair enough but tread lightly still.

[anewtypedude]

My game is no where near trump tight. I am fortunate enough to have decent looks (being asked to do acting and modeling in the past) and am quite used to being approached by women. The reason I am taking up game is because I know my look will eventually fade and I will have to rely more on my personality if I am to be successful with women later. But while my game is developing, my current game is basically "I am the hot prof, you can't resist me." lol

[kimleebj]

(12-29-2011 02:35 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

bf ... does nothing but follow her around and gets way worse grades ...

There is nothing to be confused about. She has a beta boyfriend, and want some alpha action. She is only attracted to you because of your authority.

A professor in your very own department already got fired for merely asking a girl out. You are a lowly instructor, not even ladder track, and "you need them more than they need you".

Safe or not?

The beta boyfriend already suspects and he will find out (by snooping her e-mail, diary, cell phone, getting her drunk, getting in argument, guessing, etc.). Then he will complain you exchange grades for sexual favors, and gave him an unfair grade. Even if his complaints have no merit, you are done. In fact, if your department chair read this thread then you would not get renewed. Stupidly unsafe.

Let me be real clear. This beta boyfriend find out everything and get pissed off. Then he will complain to the department, perhaps threaten to sue, and perhaps even claim you propositioned him about a three-way. If the girl admits you asked her out or saw her off campus then you are fired. If she admits more and they are looking to set an example or avoid lawsuits, then the boyfriend gets an automatic "A" and full scholarship, and you get blacklisted from your profession. They are hypersensitive after firing the other professor, and you will be sacrificed to protect the department.

[anewtypedude]

Of course, I would never seriously try to game them. I am more concerned about how I should respond if they try to game ME. To this date, I have responded professionally to anyone who showsed direct interest by letting them know the policy, but I do have limits: I will not touch any of my students UNLESS they are the ones who initiated it OR if they are no longer my students.

It is hard man, it is hard to be surrounded by all these willing 8s and 9s but knowing you cannot touch, almost like a rockstar who isn't allowed to have sex with fans who come to his concert.

[Samseau]

The beta boyfriend will find out nothing. Don't be ridiculous. If the girl wants to cheat, there is no fucking way the beta boyfriend finds out. For god's sake, he's just following her around all day. He's pathetic, there's nothing to worry about from this guy.


As for escalating: just do it slowly. Isolate her somewhere first, preferably off-campus. Put your hands on her arms, then neck, then waist, then ass, then breasts, etc. If she stops at any time you just pull back, and rescalate again.

Quote:

It is hard man, it is hard to be surrounded by all these willing 8s and 9s but knowing you cannot touch, almost like a rockstar who isn't allowed to have sex with fans who come to his concert.

Listen man, my opinion of you is that you're such a noob at the game, you wouldn't be getting laid even if there were no repercussions for it. Don't play it off like you're just a baller who's being "held back" when clearly you don't seem to know the first thing about game.


If you can't take the advice I'm giving you here, you deserve your blue balls.

[gds555]

Responding to Samseau's gratuitously mean-spirited remarks, let me quote from Volume 2, Chapter XI of the Victorian sexual memoir My Secret Life by "Walter": "A woman is such a fool that she must tell some one everything". "Walter" may have been a sexual sociopath, and a distinctly weird prose stylist as well, but he had a certain wisdom about the ways of humanity, and this particular homely observation of his corresponds very closely to my own experience of life.

I think the likelihood that this girl will tell someone what's going on--out of personal pride as much as for any other reason--and that the beta boyfriend and/or the university administration will find out as a result, is pretty high. And that's not even including the likelihood that the boyfriend and/or the university administration might find out without her confessing anything to anybody.

[xmlenigma]

Gio - Would love to pick your brains on this later. I am thinking of teaching some stuff on campus on the side besides work.

(12-28-2011 03:41 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I have worked at various colleges and universities. I have banged many students. Could I get in trouble for doing it? Yes, but I do it anyways. It is a bit risky but I've had great luck over the past 8 years. I average 2-3 students a year. Once these girls get to know you a little and see you around, they can really come on strong. I've had beautiful young girls email me, leave me messages, slip me their number, etc., etc. It helps that I am usually one of the youngest (looking) staff members on campus. I even got a blowjob in the closet in my department once, from a 19yo exchange student.

I think what has helped me is that I don't really chase any girls on campus. I just wait for the ones who are really into me. The ones who stare at me with the "come fuck me" eyes and eventually they just come to my office and give me their number. Many of these girls have a "professor fetish". They want to fuck a teacher. Its like a fantasy for them. I would always hear them talking about witch professors they thought was cute. Its just like being the bartender at a bar, you have instant social proof.

Like I said, I would let the girls choose me. If they were just all over me and practically begging me to bang them, I would. Luckily, I never had any problems. I was very careful to avoid any and all types of drama. But, I never got any drama. I made it seem like I was doing these girls a favor. They had pursued me and I made little or no effort throughout the seduction process. Maybe this is why they never complained. I banged the shit out of them and I was very nice to them. I made sure I gave them no reason to complain.

This happens at every school out there. I have had many conversations with male professors and they always mentioned their strategy for banging students. I never mentioned it first but these guys always would. I think, because I was young, they knew I would be banging students.

This is very common at certain schools. I heard this is very big a Harvard. Its like an inside joke at Harvard among the male teachers. Alot of these guys are intellectual celebrities and girls come from all over the world to take their classes, what do you think is gonna happen!?

Female professors do it too. Its the dirty little secret of higher education.

That being said, Its not worth losing your job. If you care about your job, don't do it. Wait til they graduate. I didn't care about my job so I was more daring. I knew I would be changing careers anyways, so it didn't matter to me.

Something to think about is..

Tenure - Once you get tenure status, its very difficult to fire you, even for banging students, maybe you wait a few years til you get tenured. But, every school has different policies so you have to check the policy for your school.


I have also taught in high school and of course those girls were too young. But, I would run into them around town after they graduated and I banged a few of them too.

I have also taught English and that was a joke. Many of the foreign teachers were banging their Brazilian students but these were all adults.

I have told you of the success I've had but.... this is nothing to play around with! If you care about your job, be very, very, careful. Choose the girls wisely, stay away from the crazy ones, pick girls who are emotionally stable and just have a "thing" for you. Don't chase them aggressively. If they want you bad enough, they will let you know. Be careful!

[Giovonny]

(09-27-2013 01:25 AM)xmlenigma Wrote:  

Gio - Would love to pick your brains on this later.

Sure.

Anytime.