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Teaching English Abroad
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Teaching English Abroad

Has anyone here every done this? How hard is it to find gigs? I'm giving it some consideration.
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There are websites and forums specifically for teaching english abroad. Korea and Japan seem to be the most desperate for english teachers as some companies will pay for your transportation there and set you up with boarding and they pay well. It is not hard to find across south america, but the pay is minimal. These places only require fluency in english, but countries like israel and saudi arabia require up to a master's degree in teaching english.

When I was in Peru, I met a guy at the hostel who worked at the hostel bar a few hours a night for free boarding, then spent his days teaching english at a company in need of english teachers that he found on a teach english abroad website. That's how he made his food money, but he said there is no guarantee that the company can afford to pay you every week.
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Quote: (06-05-2009 06:42 PM)mlucasone Wrote:  

There are websites and forums specifically for teaching english abroad. Korea and Japan seem to be the most desperate for english teachers as some companies will pay for your transportation there and set you up with boarding and they pay well. It is not hard to find across south america, but the pay is minimal. These places only require fluency in english, but countries like israel and saudi arabia require up to a master's degree in teaching english.

When I was in Peru, I met a guy at the hostel who worked at the hostel bar a few hours a night for free boarding, then spent his days teaching english at a company in need of english teachers that he found on a teach english abroad website. That's how he made his food money, but he said there is no guarantee that the company can afford to pay you every week.

Hmm, I know people don't teach English abroad for the money, but if it's some sh-t where they can't pay you every week, that sounds more like a scam than a job.
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Some companies give you empanadas for payment, i hear.
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According to my friends, you can make decent money in East Asia: Korea or Japan (maybe China). Meaning you can live pretty well in those countries. In South America demand is slack so you can make little money.

I got a buddy right here in Rio who went through some certification but can't find decent paying work worth shit.
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Quote: (06-05-2009 08:12 PM)elguapo Wrote:  

According to my friends, you can make decent money in East Asia: Korea or Japan (maybe China). Meaning you can live pretty well in those countries. In South America demand is slack so you can make little money.

I got a buddy right here in Rio who went through some certification but can't find decent paying work worth shit.

You talking about Nick? I thought he had a gig already.
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Quote: (06-05-2009 08:34 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Quote: (06-05-2009 08:12 PM)elguapo Wrote:  

According to my friends, you can make decent money in East Asia: Korea or Japan (maybe China). Meaning you can live pretty well in those countries. In South America demand is slack so you can make little money.

I got a buddy right here in Rio who went through some certification but can't find decent paying work worth shit.

You talking about Nick? I thought he had a gig already.

Yeah, Nick. I could be wrong, but I don't think he is making decent money with whatever he's doing (I think it's even part time).
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The pay is quite crap unless you do it in Asia or Dubai. Enough to get by though I guess.
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Teaching English Abroad

EF (English First) is colloquially known as Easy Fuck by english teachers in Indonesia, you might try there. On a blog once I read this guy say he went for a job interview, he complained to the boss about the pay, she said 'but the girls.....'
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It seems like teaching English would be a good way to find/bang locals because you know they're interested in us and our culture.
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Quote: (11-24-2009 01:04 AM)gringoed Wrote:  

It seems like teaching English would be a good way to find/bang locals because you know they're interested in us and our culture.

Hmm. How many girls are in each class? And how many hours a week does this take up? Seems like an inefficient way to bang girls. May be better for guys with no game.
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I know a guy who used to teach English to Japanese girls in the UK. He got hired by this rich guy to teach his Japanese wife English. He used to go over, give her lessons and then bang her. lol
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Quote: (11-24-2009 05:31 AM)PartyTime Wrote:  

Quote: (11-24-2009 01:04 AM)gringoed Wrote:  

It seems like teaching English would be a good way to find/bang locals because you know they're interested in us and our culture.

Hmm. How many girls are in each class? And how many hours a week does this take up? Seems like an inefficient way to bang girls. May be better for guys with no game.

Some countries you need an actual reason to be there, legally, for a stay of more than a month, and unless your company sends you there to work or something english teaching is likely to be the easiest way of doing that.
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Unless you plan on staying for a long time (6+ months) then don't even bother.

Lets say you are not teaching in the more profitable countries like Japan or South Korea, but a developing country like in Colombia, for example. What ends up happening is you get a teaching job for $10/hour. But you might have 4 hours of work each day. The work might be 1 hour at 6am, another hour at 1pm, another hour at 8pm, and another hour at 10pm. All of these places are spread out throughout the city so you will spend another hour getting to each of these places. It hardly sounds worth it considering these places have horrible reputations of not paying their teachers.
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Working abroad for the purpose of making money sounds like a bad idea. There's no place like the US to get top dollar for your effort. The land of opportunity baby! [Image: banana.gif]

But if you are traveling (very) long term, you gotta set up an income stream to have US dollars flowing in while you travel. Its not as hard as it sounds.
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"JMB" said...
Lets say you are not teaching in the more profitable countries like Japan or South Korea, but a developing country like in Colombia, for example. What ends up happening is you get a teaching job for $10/hour. But you might have 4 hours of work each day. The work might be 1 hour at 6am, another hour at 1pm, another hour at 8pm, and another hour at 10pm. All of these places are spread out throughout the city so you will spend another hour getting to each of these places. It hardly sounds worth it considering these places have horrible reputations of not paying their teachers."
That was exactly my experience in Rio, I was catching the bus and subway all over town at all hours just to make 9 bucks/hour. Its much easier to make $$$ here in the US. My advice is to WORK MORE/SAVE MORE BEFORE YOUR TRIP so you don't have to work when you travel.
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I considered teaching English in South Korea a few years ago -- I even had a job lined up. The company was willing to pay for my flight there and back and would help me find an apartment. The pay was very decent; the people I talked to at the company (and I insisted on talking to at least 3) told me they were saving about $10k a year and still going out most nights of the week.

Check out daveseslcafe.com for more information. When I was researching this, South Korea was by far the easiest country to teach in because the schools there don't require any certification.
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Quote: (11-25-2009 03:40 AM)PartyTime Wrote:  

Working abroad for the purpose of making money sounds like a bad idea. There's no place like the US to get top dollar for your effort. The land of opportunity baby! [Image: banana.gif]
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Quote: (11-24-2009 07:32 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

I know a guy who used to teach English to Japanese girls in the UK. He got hired by this rich guy to teach his Japanese wife English. He used to go over, give her lessons and then bang her. lol

ahahaha...Too funny!
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Quote: (11-27-2009 06:35 AM)travelstobang Wrote:  

Maybe you'll be making 3/4 of what you did before

3/4 is actually very good. I was expecting less.
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Quote: (11-27-2009 12:52 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Quote: (11-24-2009 07:32 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

I know a guy who used to teach English to Japanese girls in the UK. He got hired by this rich guy to teach his Japanese wife English. He used to go over, give her lessons and then bang her. lol

ahahaha...Too funny!

I know. The guy was basically paying the dude to bang his wife except he didn't know about it. lol
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Quote: (11-25-2009 03:40 AM)PartyTime Wrote:  

Working abroad for the purpose of making money sounds like a bad idea. There's no place like the US to get top dollar for your effort. The land of opportunity baby! [Image: banana.gif]

But if you are traveling (very) long term, you gotta set up an income stream to have US dollars flowing in while you travel. Its not as hard as it sounds.

This is the worst advice I have ever heard. You can earn a better income with a better lifestyle in places outside the USA too. There is more to life than the 9-5 office job in America, and nothing stops you landing the 9-5 office job in Japan, Australia, Ireland, etc. There are options outside the USA
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Quote: (11-30-2009 12:48 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:  

This is the worst advice I have ever heard. You can earn a better income with a better lifestyle in places outside the USA too. There is more to life than the 9-5 office job in America, and nothing stops you landing the 9-5 office job in Japan, Australia, Ireland, etc. There are options outside the USA

2 Points:

1) As a whole, the US has historically been the best place to make top $ for your effort, especially if you have an entrepreneurial spirit. Thats indisputable. I'm not saying there are not exceptions to this rule in some industries, and some cases, but as a whole its true.

Want proof? How about common expressions like "land of oppertunity". How about the disproportionally large numbers that want to immigrate to the US every year. How about the disproportionally large number of self-made millionaires and billionaires in the US. How about the fact that the US GDP is $14.4 trillion and the next largest economy... Japan, at only $4.9 trillion. Thats right, #2 is only about 1/3 the size of the US.

2) My point is to make your money in a rich country, and spend it in a poor(er) country. If you work in Japan, Australia, or Ireland, (all high income countries) you also have high costs of living. Not good.

Set up an income stream in a rich country, and travel long-term in poorer countries. Its a winning formula.
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Historically yes. But the US is not the only place anymore. What about Australia? What about Singapore? What about Russia? What about Canada? What about the UK?

I dont give a crap about GDP statistics or how many Mexicans want to move to the USA. Australians make more money for the same job and have a stronger currency and higher standard of living than Americans do. The Scandanavian countries also provide more. When it comes to human development indexes and quality of life surveys, Canada, Australia and Scandanavian countries outdo the USA in almost every single index there is. For all the talk of a high cost of living, the quality of life and standard of living is actually higher.

You cant go get a job in Brazil or Colombia. I agree with that. But there are options outside the USA. If you want to see Asia, why not base yourself out of Australia, Singapore or Malaysia? If you want to see Eastern Europe, expat jobs in Russia pay a fortune, not to mention employment opportunity in the middle east if you have the balls for it. If North eastern Europe is where you want to be, you could look at Denmark or Finland.

If its Southern Europe, the UK is right on its doorstep. Its a 45 minute TRAIN RIDE to France. Its a 1 hour flight to spain.

The USA used to be the place to make your fortune. Now its headed down the same path as California. A liberal welfare state which produces nothing. The entire US economy is based on consumer spending and has so much debt Im not even sure if it has much of a future.

The world is your oyster. Seriously, you can make a fortune and live off a passive income in many different places.
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Quote: (11-30-2009 05:17 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:  

The USA used to be the place to make your fortune. Now its headed down the same path as California. A liberal welfare state which produces nothing. The entire US economy is based on consumer spending and has so much debt Im not even sure if it has much of a future.

Let's not get carried away with this "US produces nothing" stuff. That's quite a bold claim when the US is the 3rd largest exporter in the world. Sure it may not be number 1 anymore, but that doesn't mean the US produces nothing. Examples of things we export: Pharmaceutical, Medical technology, biotech, construction equipment, machine tools, cars, aerospace both airplanes and space technology, high end electronics, food and agriculture, chemicals, military hardware, films and entertainment including porn(lol). Now that's just talking exports. I'm not even talking about people with regular jobs that don't involve the international market like nurses and cops and teachers yet still contribute to society.
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