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10-09-2011, 01:02 AM
Everyone has made the observation that girls from Southern Europe (Italy, Greece, Spain) aren't very receptive to game, and that you pretty much need to be in with their whole family to get anywhere. That said, does that make them good candidates for long term relationships, if you're looking for one?
I'd like to believe that, but I can also see them, especially the Italians, being fashion whores with princess syndromes. Does anyone have any experience or observations on this?
"Excess copulations may not actually cost a female much, other than a little lost time and energy, but they do not do her positive good. A male on the other hand can never get enough copulations with as many different females as possible: the word excess has no meaning for a male."
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10-09-2011, 03:02 PM
Wander, the answer depends on whom you're comparing Southern European girls to. Type "sociosexuality by country" on Google (I think the chart shows sociosexuality among females). The economics blog, "Marginal Revolution" had a post on it a few years back. Sociosexuality refers to how open one is to casual sex, extra-marital affairs, etc. The higher a country's sociosexuality, the looser the citizens-the lower, the more conservative.
If you look at the chart you'll see that countries such as Spain and Italy compare favorably to the US and Baltic countries, but Asian girls are still your best bet for LTR and wife material.
P.S. I can't post the link until I get 10 posts so you'll have do search for it.
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10-11-2011, 07:40 PM
You will get food from a Greek girl most the time. If she can't cook then her mom or grandmother will make you some. They are balls to the wall horny bitches as well.
I can't do it though. With one crazy local Greek family the addition of another would be overwhelming. There are very sweet down to earth greek girls so take it on an individual basis.
I have the Curse/luxury of having the biggest family in this area so I have pre-hate from the minority (other islanders) which comes into play
The families in Greece have so many hang-ups there is a excess of old maids (over 20) lol
Smitty is on the money. They will talk shit about you! Marry one of my cousins and I will talk shit about you too. Thats just how it is.
If her sis gets a Benz SUV (black with gold rims) she better be next in line.
Jealousy is what drives our entire culture.
I worked with Poles for years up north when I was younger. Their wives were first class.
Edit: None of this will matter if you are a Doctor or going to med school. You could shit on everyone and it would be just fine.
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10-12-2011, 03:20 AM
I think Italian women are very bossy. However, I have not dated an Italian - this is just based on observations during trips to Italy where I've observed many Italians with their wives and they seemed pussy-whipped.
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10-31-2011, 08:53 AM
Never understood why American women get such a bad rap on this forum . Tons of women who live in foreign countries have the same mindset of greed, vanity, and control. Inheriting a family is standard procedure in most Southern European countries and anything south of the border. They are also prone to putting on a lot of weight(especially if they move here), and are much more crafty with manipulation.
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11-01-2011, 01:54 PM
Usually the case is for women to be promiscuous and bitchy in places like US, and more reserved but sweet in more traditional places.
Well in Athens, Greece you get women who are hard to bang compared to other western women, but at the same time close to the top of bitchy and masculine attitudes worldwide imo.
In smaller towns things are definitely better.
You can always come and see for yourself, but I warn you it's not pretty. For men looking for feminine women, I'd suggest you avoid Athens. There are (very few) dimes but you will not find them without a strong social circle.
I would say many women are like that: They want to be screwed by men way above their league, and prefer to remain without sex if they can't, while being very unfeminine in every aspect of their daily life.
So if you are "hunky" looking, and want to screw married older unfeminine, horny and frustrated women maybe it's good I don't know. Not worth it for anything else though.
You can watch any greek tv show on youtube and observe their body language, expressions and tone of voice if you want to see what I mean.
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11-01-2011, 05:18 PM
Quote: (11-01-2011 01:54 PM)the28 Wrote:
Usually the case is for women to be promiscuous and bitchy in places like US, and more reserved but sweet in more traditional places.
Well in Athens, Greece you get women who are hard to bang compared to other western women, but at the same time close to the top of bitchy and masculine attitudes worldwide imo.
In smaller towns things are definitely better.
You can always come and see for yourself, but I warn you it's not pretty. For men looking for feminine women, I'd suggest you avoid Athens. There are (very few) dimes but you will not find them without a strong social circle.
I would say many women are like that: They want to be screwed by men way above their league, and prefer to remain without sex if they can't, while being very unfeminine in every aspect of their daily life.
So if you are "hunky" looking, and want to screw married older unfeminine, horny and frustrated women maybe it's good I don't know. Not worth it for anything else though.
You can watch any greek tv show on youtube and observe their body language, expressions and tone of voice if you want to see what I mean.
I agree 100 percent. The sad thing is that i found the girls on the street in Athens to be pretty damn hot. Thats why I would never ever go back. Why torture yourself like that.
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11-01-2011, 05:47 PM
Quote: (11-01-2011 05:40 PM)el mechanico Wrote:
Quote: (11-01-2011 05:18 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:
Quote: (11-01-2011 01:54 PM)the28 Wrote:
Usually the case is for women to be promiscuous and bitchy in places like US, and more reserved but sweet in more traditional places.
Well in Athens, Greece you get women who are hard to bang compared to other western women, but at the same time close to the top of bitchy and masculine attitudes worldwide imo.
In smaller towns things are definitely better.
You can always come and see for yourself, but I warn you it's not pretty. For men looking for feminine women, I'd suggest you avoid Athens. There are (very few) dimes but you will not find them without a strong social circle.
I would say many women are like that: They want to be screwed by men way above their league, and prefer to remain without sex if they can't, while being very unfeminine in every aspect of their daily life.
So if you are "hunky" looking, and want to screw married older unfeminine, horny and frustrated women maybe it's good I don't know. Not worth it for anything else though.
You can watch any greek tv show on youtube and observe their body language, expressions and tone of voice if you want to see what I mean.
I agree 100 percent. The sad thing is that i found the girls on the street in Athens to be pretty damn hot. Thats why I would never ever go back. Why torture yourself like that.
You can game them and they fuck. It just doesn't work like it does here.
You can game argentinian girls and a few might fuck also. The point is why put that much time and effort when there are greener pastures.
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11-01-2011, 05:52 PM
Trust me when I say this is a very decadent society. Women have the worst of both worlds, and many men lack any sense of responsibility.
It's not cause of bad luck that Greece is in the economic situation it is. It's a direct byproduct of the people here.
Trust me I am trying to leave this place as soon as possible. It feels bad feeling like you don't have a home, since you are surrounded by all that crap.
Again, small places are way different. I'm speaking about Athens here.
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11-01-2011, 05:57 PM
Any girl from the old country, or those who are a by-product of the old country, need to be controlled as if they were with a man from the old country. Don' t let your modern European or American ways take control. I dated a girl from thessaloniki, and the whore was fine until I started giving her western whore treatment. Assuming that this is wife material , as opposed to a fuck, treat all fucks , regardless of geographical location, as a fuck.
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11-01-2011, 05:58 PM
Quote: (11-01-2011 05:54 PM)el mechanico Wrote:
Quote: (11-01-2011 05:47 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:
Quote: (11-01-2011 05:40 PM)el mechanico Wrote:
Quote: (11-01-2011 05:18 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:
Quote: (11-01-2011 01:54 PM)the28 Wrote:
Usually the case is for women to be promiscuous and bitchy in places like US, and more reserved but sweet in more traditional places.
Well in Athens, Greece you get women who are hard to bang compared to other western women, but at the same time close to the top of bitchy and masculine attitudes worldwide imo.
In smaller towns things are definitely better.
You can always come and see for yourself, but I warn you it's not pretty. For men looking for feminine women, I'd suggest you avoid Athens. There are (very few) dimes but you will not find them without a strong social circle.
I would say many women are like that: They want to be screwed by men way above their league, and prefer to remain without sex if they can't, while being very unfeminine in every aspect of their daily life.
So if you are "hunky" looking, and want to screw married older unfeminine, horny and frustrated women maybe it's good I don't know. Not worth it for anything else though.
You can watch any greek tv show on youtube and observe their body language, expressions and tone of voice if you want to see what I mean.
I agree 100 percent. The sad thing is that i found the girls on the street in Athens to be pretty damn hot. Thats why I would never ever go back. Why torture yourself like that.
You can game them and they fuck. It just doesn't work like it does here.
You can game argentinian girls and a few might fuck also. The point is why put that much time and effort when there are greener pastures.
Because the place rocks. You can find any type of girl there in the summer.
Athens is my favorite place to party eat and pull.
Maybe its changed since I was last there. If its your favorite and its as good as you say it is now, then you should definitely bust out a data sheet.