[Bluto]

One thing that I would recommend in your situation, assuming that you can afford it, is to take a semester abroad if you can. It would be nice to get to a place where you can get laid easier, but even if it is to a game desert like Denmark, continue to work out hard, and you will likely make a larger impression with you social circle when you return. Even with girls that shot you down, you may have a better chance on a re-approach if you have improved enough to basically re-engineer your image. You will also hopefully have more than a few stories to tell.

[RedPillUK]

Sounds like you know what's wrong and you're working on it, keep it up. Honestly I would just focus hard on one thing at a time, I think male brains are designed to work better that way. I would just read books and blogs as much as I can but not really worry too much about girls until I was at a normal, healthy weight.

[ShuaiGe]

(08-09-2018 02:55 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(08-09-2018 02:32 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

As for looks - it's all relative:



The guy on the left could have approached 1000 times - unless he would have really lowered his bar to some very questionable boner-killing levels, then he would hardly get laid. The guy on the right - he just needs some Game if he cannot get laid.

Wow that's incredible, that picture is really inspiring, that's the same guy?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-15-2018 06:22 AM)ShuaiGe Wrote:  

(08-09-2018 02:55 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(08-09-2018 02:32 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

As for looks - it's all relative:



The guy on the left could have approached 1000 times - unless he would have really lowered his bar to some very questionable boner-killing levels, then he would hardly get laid. The guy on the right - he just needs some Game if he cannot get laid.

Wow that's incredible, that picture is really inspiring, that's the same guy?

Of course it's the same guy - you have the same hairline, facial features, even glasses. From the bodybuilding forum - plus in the first pic he put on a stupid grin. But it's the same guy.







Of course raw genetics come into play as well - not everyone will be model material even after having slimmed down. But you only find out how good-looking you are afterwards.

[KiwiTheGermanShepherd]

(08-08-2018 07:42 PM)Professor When Wrote:  

Hello, RVF. I've recently been trying to learn the concepts behind game and apply them as best I can. However, I need some help convincing myself that looks aren't such a huge part of making game work. I've been having a lot of trouble turning any interactions with females into something more than just simple friendliness.

About me:
I'm 28 years old and I've been trying to find some variety of sexual relationship for about 8 months now. Before that I had never even tried asking a woman out. As it follows, I'm a virgin. I'm average looking, but also fat. I've lost about 180 lbs, although I still weigh 305 lbs; I've got a way to go yet. I have started to dress better and generally take care of my appearance, as well.

I am a very charismatic person. I'm the one leading my social groups, I have excellent rapport with people in general. I have recently returned to school looking to get my BSN, so this has afforded me a lot more opportunities to meet women and create new social circles.

Here's where I have a problem:
I have been fighting my natural introversion and interacting with women as much as I can, rather than just during classes, etc. I always get them laughing and having fun; I play juvenile games with them, I tease them, I establish casual physical contact early. As far as I can tell, that's all textbook stuff and they seem receptive to it. Then I try to arrange a date and I can almost hear the "comedic record scratch" sound effect playing in their head.

I can give some recent examples if you'd like, but every time I make a move for something more than platonic, the entire dynamic changes. Of course, since I have never been the orbiter type I end up just not trying to interact with her anymore upon seeing this dead end. And they are all perfectly fine with this. There's never any reciprocal push to my pulling away when I next them. Further interactions see them acting almost awkward around me, even though I just go back to treating them like I would any other random normal person.


So this is where I'm convinced it's an issue of looks. If they're happy interacting with me as some asexual attentention device, yet balk at the implication of romance, what am I supposed to think?

I understand that this is a touchy subject here, which is why I want to keep an open mind and ask for sincere advice. What could be the cause of this complete dissonance in their reactions?

Thank you.

I can tell you straight up 100% that is not looks for damn sure. Maybe you are going straight to comfort when you are interacting with these women instead of building attraction. Maybe you are coming off too friendly. There could be several reasons but looks is definetly not one of them. it may only be a small factor... maybe play it less safe and flirt with them more.... give them a hug for no reason and see how it goes? best of luck mate.