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Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Data Sheet
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Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Data Sheet

Quote: (09-04-2018 12:19 AM)TheKongoEmpire Wrote:  

Quote: (03-18-2018 12:37 AM)Bain Wrote:  

Last year the violence in Rio was at one of its highest. The president called for the military to take over - but some claim the president did that bc elections are coming up. Only a few days ago a black female political councilor - Marielle Franco was assassinated after giving a talk - and she has been quite vocal against police harassment and the military occupation. This has lead to many protests in Rio and other cities.

Did you find any security problems. As per the news its seems to be quite volatile there right now.
She's not black.



Actually, she had light brown skin, but was considered black for Brazilian standards.
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#77

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Quote: (09-04-2018 10:39 AM)hipster Wrote:  

Marielle is black, her case is nothing out of the ordinary and mostly fake news.

As a Haitian, I know about being "black" and she clearly isn't one but I won't derail the thread. I understand colonial rationale.



Quote: (09-04-2018 11:10 AM)Titus Wrote:  

Quote: (09-01-2018 12:15 PM)hipster Wrote:  

Quote: (09-01-2018 10:57 AM)Titus Wrote:  

And altough Colombian girls are MUCH hotter (in average) than Brazilians, it's like a thousand times easier getting make outs or ONS with random chicks in Brazil.
You mean white girls or other kinds? What is the proportion of white women in comparison to Rio?
If it´s regarding the color of skin, Colombia in general is “whiter” than Brazil. You hardly see any blacks in Medellin or Bogotá, it´s common only in some parts of the country, like the Caribbean coast. But if you mean white Caucasian girls, than Brazil seems to have higher presence in its population.

I was just in Medellin in July and there's plenty Afros there. Granted not as much as Cali or Cartagena but they're there. Most of from Choco. The hosts who I was staying with were from Quibdo.



Quote: (09-04-2018 11:12 AM)Titus Wrote:  

Quote: (09-04-2018 12:19 AM)TheKongoEmpire Wrote:  

Quote: (03-18-2018 12:37 AM)Bain Wrote:  

Last year the violence in Rio was at one of its highest. The president called for the military to take over - but some claim the president did that bc elections are coming up. Only a few days ago a black female political councilor - Marielle Franco was assassinated after giving a talk - and she has been quite vocal against police harassment and the military occupation. This has lead to many protests in Rio and other cities.

Did you find any security problems. As per the news its seems to be quite volatile there right now.
She's not black.



Actually, she had light brown skin, but was considered black for Brazilian standards.

I guess. I mean, it is a raceless and colorblind society, no?
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#78

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Went home last night with a Brazilian minority. She was incredible in bed.

A buddy was robbed in broad daylight. Goodbye iPhone. He was pretty shaken, I had to buy him four beers to calm him down.
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#79

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Quote: (09-06-2018 09:25 AM)asdfk Wrote:  

Went home last night with a Brazilian minority. She was incredible in bed.

A buddy was robbed in broad daylight. Goodbye iPhone. He was pretty shaken, I had to buy him four beers to calm him down.
The first thing I do in Brazil is store my iPhone away somewhere safe and bust out an old android I couldn't give 2 shits about. Ignore the clowns on here saying they have been in Rio years without getting robbed, if you spend a month there you'll probably get something stolen.. that's life in Brazil. I just budget it into my trip and assume it'll happen, that way I don't sweat it when it does.
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#80

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^ Yes that is smart. I advised him to get a cheap smartphone and to buy some flip flops. He is walking around on nice shoes but I do not see a lot of Brazilians wearing those. I now see how that really makes tourists stand out. The poor guy is French and had never seen a knife before
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#81

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#82

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Anyone stay at the Sheraton Grand Rio? Better to stay there and take an Uber to Ipanema/Leblon or to stay in Ipanema?

Going to avoid Copacabana since it’s my first trip down
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#83

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Quote: (09-26-2018 03:17 PM)winterfell Wrote:  

Anyone stay at the Sheraton Grand Rio? Better to stay there and take an Uber to Ipanema/Leblon or to stay in Ipanema?

Going to avoid Copacabana since it’s my first trip down

If you rent a bike or are happy Ubering each night then it's ok.

But otherwise recommend staying in Ipanema or Leblon as not much around the Sheraton.

(Although another forum member did mention seeing a lot of cute Argentinians on holidays there).
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#84

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Quote: (09-26-2018 03:17 PM)winterfell Wrote:  

Anyone stay at the Sheraton Grand Rio? Better to stay there and take an Uber to Ipanema/Leblon or to stay in Ipanema?

Going to avoid Copacabana since it’s my first trip down

This area is nice however there is only one small road that goes to and from it. Sometimes the city hosts events and the road is closed which can be a hassle. I wouldn't really recommend walking to the hotel from Leblon beach as it will take a little bit of time.

In terms of logistics and banging women, the hotel has a very nice view of Rio if you get the side facing the city which is a good excuse to have her come over however you will need to call a Uber which will take at least 10 minutes to arrive to you. While you wait you will see a lot of cabs driving by however I do not recommend taking cabs.

I had no problem with that location when I was in Rio and the view is amazing. You would really have no problem with any hotel in Leblon or Ipanema. Logistically speaking though, Leblon/Ipanema is on the far left side of the city while Copacabana/Lagoa is more in the middle with Centro/Santa Teresa/Lapa on the right.

If you are in town for a little while it might be more economical to rent a car (very cheap in Brazil) as my Ubers added up quickly. Avoid Avis.

I remember the only issue with the Sheraton was that one time they had a power outage.

While you're in the city I recommend checking out the centro location of Confeitaria Colombo (opened since 1894). It's a beautiful cafe perfect for taking a girl you're into post bang. Another definite must see is Parque Lage which has a really nice cafe and a small park with some cool caves. If you have the means you should also consider chartering a helicopter ride over the city for a hour, this will cost 250 USD (its worth it, a once in a lifetime thing) using todays exchange rate which is really cheap (other places cost 600+ USD a hour). If you do decide to charter a helicopter let me know as I know a company in the city run by good people (there are many companies that charge a lot more).

If you can try Feijão (Brazilian beans and meat) and Churrasco (Brazilian BBQ).
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#85

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I wouldn't go to Rio Dr Janeiro for women.
It's hideously expensive for the poverty and local wage. However exciting beach city, worth a visit, but unless your a sadist try and leave as quick as possible to other parts of the country: which are cheaper, friendlier, more relaxed.
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#86

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Quote: (09-27-2018 03:46 AM)Ronzo Wrote:  

I wouldn't go to Rio Dr Janeiro for women.
It's hideously expensive for the poverty and local wage. However exciting beach city, worth a visit, but unless your a sadist try and leave as quick as possible to other parts of the country: which are cheaper, friendlier, more relaxed.

Have you ever visited Rio? Tell me more about it.

And which other parts of the country are you suggesting? Have you ever been there too?

As a Brazilian, I couldn´t disagree more with you. For a foreigner, I can´t imagine any other Brazilian city better than Rio to party and bang...
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#87

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Isn’t the Sheraton very near the Two Brothers favela with the awesome sunrise/sunset hike? You can even walk to the bottom area where the motorbikes zoom you up through the streets to the trailhead.

Otherwise it’s isolated along there. But I don’t know why everyone loves copa and ipenama. The beaches in Rio City are dirty and congested. You have to go way out past Cabo Frio for good beaches. Maybe if you’re main purpose is to be near Cariocas and tourists for hookups those areas are worth the expense. Otherwise I feel like it’s way overrated to stay there.
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#88

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Quote: (09-27-2018 08:56 AM)Titus Wrote:  

Quote: (09-27-2018 03:46 AM)Ronzo Wrote:  

I wouldn't go to Rio Dr Janeiro for women.
It's hideously expensive for the poverty and local wage. However exciting beach city, worth a visit, but unless your a sadist try and leave as quick as possible to other parts of the country: which are cheaper, friendlier, more relaxed.

Have you ever visited Rio? Tell me more about it.

And which other parts of the country are you suggesting? Have you ever been there too?

As a Brazilian, I couldn´t disagree more with you. For a foreigner, I can´t imagine any other Brazilian city better than Rio to party and bang...

Sampa???..... a wider variety of better looking women who dress better imho although they aren't as revealing as a Carioca. I remember seeing a fine assed Nisei chick in Jardins for crying out loud.

Much more vibrant nightlife than Rio....it isn't even close here. And less touristy.

And the biggest most important thing to me is safety. I think Sampa is safer overall than Rio. Yes there's no beach in Sampa, but that means you don't have to deal with those damned 40 - 50 odd strong swarms of arrastoes that have been plaguing Rio for the past few years.
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#89

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Brazil is a very violent country overall and Rio is lawless. It is not recommended as a "love tourist" destination.

I am a foreigner and I have been in a lot of countries. Rio is not easier for girls than destinations in Colombia or Argentina. It is less safe tho, to a ridiculous extent.

Go if you are some cowboy badass. Normal gringos should go to other countries instead.
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#90

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Rio is still worth it if your online game is good enough.

Go to a nice hotel in Ipanema and bang hotties from Tinder/Bumble

Probably too dangerous to run nightgame in Rio's current state
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#91

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"Brazilian Trump" Jair Bolsonaro just won presidential poll yesterday. He's a conservative whose main election promise is to harshly combat crime. His political base is Rio de Janeiro. Hopefully things will get better here...
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#92

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Quote: (10-29-2018 09:32 AM)Titus Wrote:  

"Brazilian Trump" Jair Bolsonaro just won presidential poll yesterday. He's a conservative whose main election promise is to harshly combat crime. His political base is Rio de Janeiro. Hopefully things will get better here...

if he doesn't destroy the rainforest in the process.... we all grew up looking at pics of the amazon rainforest in gradeschool dreaming of the different animals and stuff
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#93

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Quote: (10-30-2018 10:25 PM)I_luh_durian Wrote:  

Quote: (10-29-2018 09:32 AM)Titus Wrote:  

"Brazilian Trump" Jair Bolsonaro just won presidential poll yesterday. He's a conservative whose main election promise is to harshly combat crime. His political base is Rio de Janeiro. Hopefully things will get better here...

if he doesn't destroy the rainforest in the process.... we all grew up looking at pics of the amazon rainforest in gradeschool dreaming of the different animals and stuff

What does he have to do with the rain forest? Don´t believe in big media views about him...
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#94

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Safety concerns in Rio are rather exaggerated in this thread (as in most, and in the media). Reading it here gives the impression of open gang war on the beach, when in my visit it seemed more similar to other large Latin American cities.
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Quote: (10-31-2018 09:59 PM)scrambled Wrote:  

Safety concerns in Rio are rather exaggerated in this thread (as in most, and in the media). Reading it here gives the impression of open gang war on the beach, when in my visit it seemed more similar to other large Latin American cities.

Good to know, because all these reports of theft and violent crime has been the only thing holding me back from doing a month or 3 in Rio after the new year.

I'm no stranger to "living dangerously" having spent most of the last year living in "high risk" places like South Africa, Kenya and Mexico so I think Rio should be fine. Just gotta have your spidey senses sharp right?

The question is though: is it worth the hassle at the moment, when one can choose from so many other places in the world?
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#96

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Quote: (10-31-2018 09:59 PM)scrambled Wrote:  

Safety concerns in Rio are rather exaggerated in this thread (as in most, and in the media). Reading it here gives the impression of open gang war on the beach, when in my visit it seemed more similar to other large Latin American cities.

Yeah I have been thinking in going back and make a visit for some months, I have some good memories, but watching the media and reading this forum make it look like mad max lol.
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#97

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Locals uniformly told me that the Leblon area is the richest and "safeist" and tourists and gringos will stand out the least. All trips (and things) are probabilities, just minimize your risk as in any place, Chicago, Rio, whatever.

The stories of violence should be balanced against the non-stories of non-violence, the population is high in these places so the statistical odds are not as bad as the "vignettes" of violence make it seem.
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#98

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how are the english levels in rio de janerio?

Quote: (09-04-2018 11:10 AM)Titus Wrote:  

Quote: (09-01-2018 12:15 PM)hipster Wrote:  

Quote: (09-01-2018 10:57 AM)Titus Wrote:  

And altough Colombian girls are MUCH hotter (in average) than Brazilians, it's like a thousand times easier getting make outs or ONS with random chicks in Brazil.

You mean white girls or other kinds? What is the proportion of white women in comparison to Rio?


What do you mean by “white girls”? Do you mean simply skin color or European descendant with Caucasian traces?

If it´s regarding the color of skin, Colombia in general is “whiter” than Brazil. You hardly see any blacks in Medellin or Bogotá, it´s common only in some parts of the country, like the Caribbean coast. But if you mean white Caucasian girls, than Brazil seems to have higher presence in its population.

From my experience, the average Colombian has the “true” Latina stereotype: Light brown skin, dark long hair, mix of European and indigenous traces. And they´re better material (in average) if compared to the Brazilian girl: More cute faces, more feminine, wear more make-up, healthier diet, healthier routine and more slim.

The major problem is that they´re much harder to bang than the Brazilian (considering a short trip, no pipelining).

colombian girls were easy for me. and i just know the basics in spanish all my dates were with google translate and dancing. and playing the game of guess what i cna say . But if you told them you were there for a week then that changes everything they will be harder to bang.

Colombia is easy and lots of cute girls but the english levels were poor and make it a boring place to stay for long if you dont know spanish. it gets old fast having to type on google translate on all your dates... one of the reasons im done with colombia till i know more spanish despite banging 2-3 cute new girls a week...


looking for an english friendly place as my next destination....


im in ecuador now quality is awful and english levels are awful, flake girls a well for the 1% of girls that are actually cute.. thinking about where to go next
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#99

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I see some ignorance popping up about the violence in Rio.

If you go for a short trip, you see a snapshot of the place. On the other hand, if you grew up there and are used to looking over your shoulder all the time, all the shit that goes down won't really register as an "event".

If you come in as a foreigner, stay long enough and get to know the place, you can see how it actually works.

In the richer areas, you are constantly being watched by the homeless, starving beggars or ghetto types. If you walk around there long enough, they will recognize you and greet you.

Within these groups there are enough types who wouldn't think twice about stabbing you for some breadcrumbs. They go through your trash at night if you live in a better area.

Walk around Ipanema and Leblon and take a good look. You'll see them. And they see you too.

They will watch gringos for any sign of expensive shit. If the target seems rich and naive enough - yes, naive - they might go for it.

Being physically intimidating is not a factor. Being naive is.

You might go to Rio and be OK. I'd call that luck. Two acquaintances got robbed at gunpoint this week, one while walking in a group. Doing something as simple as going to the beach at the wrong time might get you a gun to your head. Or just walk around centro or santa teresa (0 police) for a little bit during the daytime and let me know what you think.

There is 0 recourse if you get mugged. Your belongings will be taken into an area where the police cannot enter without being killed. And they won't send in 100 man to get you your iphone back.

Saying that muggings are OK because they don't turn violent is again naive. Because sometimes they do. Dying is a dichotomy and many of those people have zero qualms about killing you.

Ironically, some favelas appear to be more safe than the richer parts of town. In the rich parts the incompetent police will shrug their shoulders and do nothing if you get in trouble. In some favelas a mugger might be burned alive by the drug gangs that are the law there. As a result, thieves go to the richer areas.

I'd recommend doing a favela tour and to ask about some recent history of, let's say, the last six months. The gang wars makes Narcos sound like Teletubbies.

You'll notice very little of this in the rich areas but all favelas are just a few bus stops away.

I don't think the reports in this thread are exaggerated. From what I have seen, they are on the naive side.

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how are the english levels in rio de janerio?
Very low. Most people do not speak English. Higher educated people might, but only a small minority went to college and even most of them speak very little.

Portuguese is an amazing language but it is more difficult than Spanish. For a bang trip, you are better off elsewhere.
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Quote: (11-10-2018 07:44 PM)asdfk Wrote:  

I see some ignorance popping up about the violence in Rio.

If you go for a short trip, you see a snapshot of the place. On the other hand, if you grew up there and are used to looking over your shoulder all the time, all the shit that goes down won't really register as an "event".

If you come in as a foreigner, stay long enough and get to know the place, you can see how it actually works.

In the richer areas, you are constantly being watched by the homeless, starving beggars or ghetto types. If you walk around there long enough, they will recognize you and greet you.

Within these groups there are enough types who wouldn't think twice about stabbing you for some breadcrumbs. They go through your trash at night if you live in a better area.

Walk around Ipanema and Leblon and take a good look. You'll see them. And they see you too.

They will watch gringos for any sign of expensive shit. If the target seems rich and naive enough - yes, naive - they might go for it.

Being physically intimidating is not a factor. Being naive is.

You might go to Rio and be OK. I'd call that luck. Two acquaintances got robbed at gunpoint this week, one while walking in a group. Doing something as simple as going to the beach at the wrong time might get you a gun to your head. Or just walk around centro or santa teresa (0 police) for a little bit during the daytime and let me know what you think.

There is 0 recourse if you get mugged. Your belongings will be taken into an area where the police cannot enter without being killed. And they won't send in 100 man to get you your iphone back.

Saying that muggings are OK because they don't turn violent is again naive. Because sometimes they do. Dying is a dichotomy and many of those people have zero qualms about killing you.

Ironically, some favelas appear to be more safe than the richer parts of town. In the rich parts the incompetent police will shrug their shoulders and do nothing if you get in trouble. In some favelas a mugger might be burned alive by the drug gangs that are the law there. As a result, thieves go to the richer areas.

I'd recommend doing a favela tour and to ask about some recent history of, let's say, the last six months. The gang wars makes Narcos sound like Teletubbies.

You'll notice very little of this in the rich areas but all favelas are just a few bus stops away.

I don't think the reports in this thread are exaggerated. From what I have seen, they are on the naive side.

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how are the english levels in rio de janerio?
Very low. Most people do not speak English. Higher educated people might, but only a small minority went to college and even most of them speak very little.

Portuguese is an amazing language but it is more difficult than Spanish. For a bang trip, you are better off elsewhere.


That's also my sentiment about Rio. As I'm accustomed to Japanese, Colombian or Peruvian English, I think people in Rio speak great English (at least 1/4 of the population in the richer areas).
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