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08-27-2017, 04:05 PM
This dude is basically Carlo from the Godfather. He was allowed to earn a living but was never part of the family business and, ultimately, got whacked.
A lot of dudes seem to think that he stepped into a fortune - he'll be given a palace with servants and private planes and a gold plated Mercedes. I just think that's wildly unrealistic.
He's a guy who landed a fairly attractive woman from a wealthy family, that's it. Even then she's fully westernized, 31 and he had to change gods for her. Literally the only thing worthwhile about Muslim culture is that their women are kept in line, and he doesn't even have that going for him.
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Dutch man marries Malaysian daughter of a sultan
08-27-2017, 04:34 PM
I'm giving this guy props for a smart hustle. It's funny hearing dudes talk about him "converting" to Islam as if he was some kind of fanatical religious nut who sacrificed his soul for the Malaysian royal pussy by converting. The guy was no more Christian before than he is Muslim now. The "conversion" carries about as much weight as John Liebowitz changing his name to John Stewart and should be seen in the same exact light. "Converting" to Islam in exchange for injecting yourself and your future lineage into Asian royalty was just about the biggest no-brainer ever for a 28 year old dude with no wealth and no prospects besides his fading looks.
What was he supposed to do, marry some sloppy, big boned white girl and live like a peasant in Hollandistan? It's a rhetorical question, clearly marrying into rich Asian royalty is the shiniest Golden Ticket he (or his haters
) was ever likely to be presented with. The girl may be 3 years older than him but a rich, upper-class Asian woman will look better 10 years from now than any same-age sloppy white girl he might have married.
Plus, I'm giving him credit for representing Team You're a Fucking White Male! with this devious act of cultural imperialism. I doubt any SJW hearts were warmed by this romantic story heh.
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08-27-2017, 05:38 PM
Those things can also be seen from a long-term viewpoint towards his future family.
Net worth of the Sultan is 1.5 bio. $ with actual businesses being operated - so real money-making wealth plus connections. He does not seem to overspend.
Once you reach real upper class, then with modern money management it takes centuries for your progeny to descend to upper-middle class. Sure - wars and catastrophes could come, but those fortunes nowadays are usually widely spread and even if one part of the business gets completely wiped out, then the family is left with some spare 200 mio. $.
Thinking of your descendants centuries in advance is not a bad idea - double so since he might actually love that girl.
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08-27-2017, 06:50 PM
Islam allows slave girls and concubines so he won't be limited at all.
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08-28-2017, 07:06 PM
A lot of you guys are reaching. I mean - jesus: "traded his freedom and his masculinity along the way"??? This is serious hating at its finest.
What gives you the impression you actually have any clue what you're talking about in this particular case? The problem with discussion forums is often that fellas get the idea that they are in the know enough to comment on just about anything even with so many unknowns at play.
Hate to be a dick but seems like a lot of mental masturbation going on here - you don't honestly have to argue a concrete opinion on every buzz story that hits the news. I will say that there are cases throughout history of men from humble backgrounds using their charisma to game women like this and doing very well with this kind of setup, even repeating the process with multiple rich and powerful women throughout their lifetime. There are obvious pitfalls, but it's not a given that he'll crash and burn or even have to serve up his masculinity on a platter, as you suggest, or that he'll be some errand boy subject to the every whim of the royal family.
So, unless you have some unique insight about this guy or this particular Sultan and his family, I wouldn't be so quick to assume that knowing a thing or two about game means you can assume anything at all about what this guy has walked into and what he'll accomplish with it. And I'd wager him and his woman knew a lot more about the specifics than us when they decided to take the plunge.
Maybe he made a mistake. Maybe he struck gold. Who knows.
Either way, no one here can possibly predict how this will turn out for him. Live and let live, I say - hope he pulls it off.
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08-28-2017, 07:41 PM
I disagree, BB.
We don't really need more data on this case. It is 95% clear what the local Muslim rulers will give to this handsome "gringo-farang-long nose or whatever they call him" (who by the way conveniently took away from the father the burden of the 31 years old unmarried princess). They will give him zero power, zero say in the affairs of the province, and more importantly, zero money to his name. The local Muslims will be very careful, and ensure that the "hardly Muslim", non-hajj gringo will never run away with money or jewels.
How do I know all that? Because I know that Muslims are not the stupid, open-minded, tolerant sissies that we Westerners are. They won't let a gringo fuck them over, no sir. The Dutch dude will give them pale handsome babies, and never be free again (or if he escapes, he'll escape empty-handed).
In any case, you're right, I don't especially like the guy. Should I like an apostate, having abandoned our common ancestral religion? Who does, in this world? Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, all hate apostates, why should the Christians be the only tolerant, weak victims? I mean, I have nothing against atheists, but apostates...
And in my book, a man makes his woman enter his own religion, certainly NOT the other way round.
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08-28-2017, 08:51 PM
You could seriously raise the osmolarity of the Dead Sea with the amount of salt in this thread. When talking about his life this guy can say "And then one day I traveled to Asia and seduced the daughter of a rich and powerful Malaysian sultan." Any hater here can top that line? "At least I didn't convert to Islam" only works for the religious nuts and I thought this was a travel and game forum, not the official discussion board of the Southern Baptist Evangelical Church or Christians United for Israel.
But yeah, this guy is a loser with a capital L because although he fucks and rubs shoulders with billionaire foreign royalty he-wait for it-doesn't rule any Malaysian provinces as a result of his marriage to the sultan's daughter! If only he had married some random Dutch 8 from down the street instead of the Malaysian billionaire's daughter he would surely be well on the way to leading not just some puny Malaysian province but the entire Free World!
So yeah, only a retard would choose
not even ruling a Malaysian province when so many much better alternative
were so obviously on the table. What a cuck!
Seriously though...what this guy is doing is in the absolutely finest thread of the swashbuckling Western tradition. Going overseas as a random swinging dick and marrying into the ruling classes of foreign cultures is just about the second best thing from taking a small crew of renegades and subjugating those foreign nations and races completely in defiance of all the odds. Sure, this dude is no Francisco Pizarro, but who is? Going from bag-lady's son to a sultan's son in law is nothing to sneeze at.
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08-28-2017, 09:20 PM
If there's anything to quibble with here, it's that she gamed him.
This dude just lucked out on finding princess jasmine in a bar. If this was really some psy-ops player shit I'd give him mad props, but I actually think it's just a case of some tall, pretty white dude getting lucky twice.
In Holland you're dating war pigs two points down, so I don't blame him. Depends how he plays it from here on out.
Germany, Holland and Scandinavia are the best sources for tall, beta pretty boys. It's the SEA for rich eastern women tired of the carousel. Roosh hit the nail on the head there.
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08-28-2017, 11:47 PM
Can't believe some guys here think that girl is pretty.
That guy is a male prostitute.
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08-29-2017, 04:16 AM
Some people say Donald Trump was helped more by his fathers contacts, then his fathers financing. The Dutchman has that now.
The Dutchman can now make business deals with extremely important people from across the world and build up his own financial independence. The fact he gets love, a family and acceptance out of it is a bonus.
Whereas before, he was his landlord and banker's little bitch. Poverty is the opposite of freedom.
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08-29-2017, 09:26 AM
Man, this thread got so salty, so fast. Guys, relax. Honestly, whenever I find myself reacting this much to shit that has nothing to do with me, I try to figure out why I'm so bothered.
I don't see why we're so down on this guy. He is not some dude who seemed to have had a bright future, so he parlayed his looks into a marriage into a family worth a lot of money. Why is this such a bad thing?
Hundreds of years ago guys would marry their sons off to women in the hopes of increasing their family's lot, why is not permissible now?
This dude straight up seduced the daughter of a Sultan. That's pretty high-level shit and I wanna know how he did it.
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08-29-2017, 10:55 AM
I see both sides of the argument here, but remember the red pill analysis says the person with more power does whatever they want in the relationship... where is this man's power? She has the money, the connections, and all of society to back her up.
If she ever turns sour on him, for any reason, he's a person non grata overnight.
If I was in his shoes I'd definitely feel paranoid about the entire situation. I'd know if I piss off princess, even accidentally, that's the end of the magic carpet ride. I wouldn't feel secure at all.
That said, I'd do it if I was in his position anyways even though I'd think the marriage would fail (although I'd never renounce Jesus even if they call me Muslim). The fact is he'll have incredible stories to share with the buddies after it's all over. That alone makes it worth.
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08-29-2017, 02:09 PM
Quote: (08-28-2017 11:47 PM)joost Wrote:
Can't believe some guys here think that girl is pretty.
That guy is a male prostitute.
The guy's probably got a case of yellow fever, otherwise he wouldn't have been there in the first place. She's a 5 to a 7+, depending on how afflicted one is with the aforementioned condition...
He'll get a very comfortable life and a cushy job, like vice-consul in Amsterdam, or a fancy management job in charge of one of the sultan's properties. If he genuinely likes her and has a family bent, then he's really got it made and is set for life. If he's a player/gold digger, he'll probably end up divorced, out of the country and locked out from seeing his children.
An upper class woman from S-E Asia is a lot less likely to be a gold digger or to become a conniving feminist, they've had exposure to the West but will only latch on to the more traditional end of western values, and not so much the year zero crap.
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09-02-2017, 12:25 AM
She has a hardcore Malaysian look, it won't be for everyone. She is pretty but much better talent lurking around Kuala Lumpur. I wouldn't call her ugly but she isn't a smoke show either. She is thin, well kept, and cultured, her big flaw is her age.
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09-02-2017, 12:51 AM
She's got a doofy face and pointy elbows -- 2/10 WND (would not dagger). His looks are overrated too. No wonder he has to go to Malaysia to model. He would be modeling as a waiter if he tried to make it in New York or Paris.
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