[Fortis]

I wouldn't call Forney a racist, per se, more of a controversialist. On the one hand, he says "dindu" a ton, but on the other hand, I've talked to him on countless occasions on social media and I never felt any hostility (he knows I'm black). Even privately he was always cordial. Sure, he might just be doing that out of self-interest, but I do try to refrain from firing shots at the guy since he's even hired me to do work for him once. Nothing big but I did appreciate that he helped a fellow RVF/redpiller out despite our racial differences.

Not trying to apologize for his weird shit, but I don't think he's a legitimately bad dude or anything.

In regards to weight, I'm not gonna touch that subject. He seems to know it about himself and doesn't seem to get salty about it, so I'm gonna let it be. I have nothing against fatties until they start whining about how people don't like them because they're fat.

[Atlanta Man]

(06-14-2017 06:37 AM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  

fuck you cunts.

Here I was just about to head off to bed & I come across ANOTHER thread where Leonard & Athlone are calling each other racist. How the fuck am I supposed to get any sleep, keep my job & provide for my kids while this is going on? I have to keep shitposting. It's like Trumps election night all over again.

FML

Excelsior is Athlone? This is a serious question, I miss Athlone....I thought he was gone.

[debeguiled]

Yes.

[SuS]

Let me preface this with saying that I see the value of Western civilization and cultural homogeneity, and would love the entire planet to be first world. Also, I can't stand the degenerate aspects liberals have pegged with my race and forced it down our throats as being part of our "culture" like ebonics, single motgerhood, anti-intellectualism, thug worship, and "swag".

But my main beef with the white nationalists is that they're among the biggest cock blockers for minority men who have the IQ, awareness, and diligence to rise above their cultural programming and seek to pair up with those outside their ethnic group out of necessity. It's fair to say not all Muslims are Islamic extermists, not all Latinos are street cholos, not all Indians are social aspies, and yes, not all blacks are ghetto savages. With that, I find it very difficult to find non-westernized women to fall into my lap like they do with even the most blatant basement dwelling Anglo. And yes, whites who can't get their own women to like them (despite having damn near all the power, structure, and influence) tend to brag about getting foreign sellouts to fall on their lap while being the biggest opponents of people from my race doing the same thing out of necessity. As a libertarian, I would appreciate others not penis-policing everyone else who doesn't share their pigmemt. And my preference for "brown" and "yellow" (followed with non-American white and black women) doesn't help my case as well.

But then again, I probably just need to GTFO the USA. At least my race in most other nations including other Anglophone countries are at the middle of the Totem Pole.

[kaotic]

^^^Adding to this brings up an old conversation I had regarding the alt right.

They might accept your opinions, but you'll never be one of them - well - because you aren't one of them.

At that point I'd see myself as a lap dog being a good boy for agreeing with them.

It's better to go your own way, you don't "have" to be an alt right member, you can be a nationalist/patriot whose proud of their country and want most of the same things white nationalist do.

[thedarkknight]

(06-15-2017 01:31 PM)SuS Wrote:  

Let me preface this with saying that I see the value of Western civilization and cultural homogeneity, and would love the entire planet to be first world. Also, I can't stand the degenerate aspects liberals have pegged with my race and forced it down our throats as being part of our "culture" like ebonics, single motgerhood, anti-intellectualism, thug worship, and "swag".

But my main beef with the white nationalists is that they're among the biggest cock blockers for minority men who have the IQ, awareness, and diligence to rise above their cultural programming and seek to pair up with those outside their ethnic group out of necessity. It's fair to say not all Muslims are Islamic extermists, not all Latinos are street cholos, not all Indians are social aspies, and yes, not all blacks are ghetto savages. With that, I find it very difficult to find non-westernized women to fall into my lap like they do with even the most blatant basement dwelling Anglo. And yes, whites who can't get their own women to like them (despite having damn near all the power, structure, and influence) tend to brag about getting foreign sellouts to fall on their lap while being the biggest opponents of people from my race doing the same thing out of necessity. As a libertarian, I would appreciate others not penis-policing everyone else who doesn't share their pigmemt. And my preference for "brown" and "yellow" (followed with non-American white and black women) doesn't help my case as well.

But then again, I probably just need to GTFO the USA. At least my race in most other nations including other Anglophone countries are at the middle of the Totem Pole.

What do you mean by out of necessity? I can guess but I'd rather ask.

TDK

[SuS]

(06-15-2017 02:41 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

What do you mean by out of necessity? I can guess but I'd rather ask.

TDK

Out of necessity is attributed to a few factors:
-Healthy sexlife: Certain minority women, especially when young, hot, and tight, are known to actively deny sexual access to their men who don't fit the stereotype and have the intellect to rise above their social programming.
-Mental sanity: Even with being able to date outside one's race, you still have to deal with the overall societal ills from the opposite sex like feminism, entitlement, shallowness, and materialism. This is when it's almost a necessity to seek women from other cultures who don't celebrate the aforementioned ills.
-Parallel wavelength: Similar to roller coaster rides, It's cool dating "OMG YOLO American" women for a brief time, but it gets old quick and can make you sick sooner rather than later. Dealing with women who have a higher mental wavelength or at least aren't allowed to be eternal preteens are way easier to deal with in the long run.
-Proper relationships: There are certain women from certain cultures where femininity, humility, nurturing, and selflessness are encouraged if not enforced. Most of us minority men either had this growing up and expect the same or urge for this due to the lack of good characteristics from elder and peer females.

And these factors are just to maintain a good FWB scenario. Let's not get into the necessities for a good relationship, wife, and mother

[thedarkknight]

(06-15-2017 05:09 PM)SuS Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 02:41 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

What do you mean by out of necessity? I can guess but I'd rather ask.

TDK

Out of necessity is attributed to a few factors:
-Healthy sexlife: Certain minority women, especially when young, hot, and tight, are known to actively deny sexual access to their men who don't fit the stereotype and have the intellect to rise above their social programming.
-Mental sanity: Even with being able to date outside one's race, you still have to deal with the overall societal ills from the opposite sex like feminism, entitlement, shallowness, and materialism. This is when it's almost a necessity to seek women from other cultures who don't celebrate the aforementioned ills.
-Parallel wavelength: Similar to roller coaster rides, It's cool dating "OMG YOLO American" women for a brief time, but it gets old quick and can make you sick sooner rather than later. Dealing with women who have a higher mental wavelength or at least aren't allowed to be eternal preteens are way easier to deal with in the long run.
-Proper relationships: There are certain women from certain cultures where femininity, humility, nurturing, and selflessness are encouraged if not enforced. Most of us minority men either had this growing up and expect the same or urge for this due to the lack of good characteristics from elder and peer females.

And these factors are just to maintain a good FWB scenario. Let's not get into the necessities for a good relationship, wife, and mother

Are you African American by any chance?

[Suits]

(06-15-2017 05:09 PM)SuS Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 02:41 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

What do you mean by out of necessity? I can guess but I'd rather ask.

TDK

Out of necessity is attributed to a few factors:
-Healthy sexlife: Certain minority women, especially when young, hot, and tight, are known to actively deny sexual access to their men who don't fit the stereotype and have the intellect to rise above their social programming.
-Mental sanity: Even with being able to date outside one's race, you still have to deal with the overall societal ills from the opposite sex like feminism, entitlement, shallowness, and materialism. This is when it's almost a necessity to seek women from other cultures who don't celebrate the aforementioned ills.
-Parallel wavelength: Similar to roller coaster rides, It's cool dating "OMG YOLO American" women for a brief time, but it gets old quick and can make you sick sooner rather than later. Dealing with women who have a higher mental wavelength or at least aren't allowed to be eternal preteens are way easier to deal with in the long run.
-Proper relationships: There are certain women from certain cultures where femininity, humility, nurturing, and selflessness are encouraged if not enforced. Most of us minority men either had this growing up and expect the same or urge for this due to the lack of good characteristics from elder and peer females.

And these factors are just to maintain a good FWB scenario. Let's not get into the necessities for a good relationship, wife, and mother

Where did you move to?

[Atlanta Man]

This has made me genuinely happy. Long live Althone!!!

[Blaster]

SuS Wrote:

But my main beef with the white nationalists is that they're among the biggest cock blockers for minority men who have the IQ, awareness, and diligence to rise above their cultural programming and seek to pair up with those outside their ethnic group out of necessity.

This doesn't surprise me. The race-purist types who go on about race-mixing annoy the shit out of me, personally. Although I do think they have a point that there seems to be a massive push to specifically promote "Black man/White woman" relationships in the media

Quote:

With that, I find it very difficult to find non-westernized women to fall into my lap like they do with even the most blatant basement dwelling Anglo.

Do white nationalists have anything to do with this, though? Seems to me women are still driven by their usual hypergamous impulses.

Besides, other than the (East) Asian Woman + White Male Nerd phenomenon, I don't see a general tendency for non-western women to prefer basement-dwelling white men

(06-15-2017 01:51 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

^^^Adding to this brings up an old conversation I had regarding the alt right.

They might accept your opinions, but you'll never be one of them - well - because you aren't one of them.

At that point I'd see myself as a lap dog being a good boy for agreeing with them.

The alt-right doesn't have a formal membership. Do you agree with them or not? Do you pursue the same goals as them or not? Are you willing to use their tactics to achieve those goals or not? That's all that matters. Participate or don't. Agree or disagree on whatever you feel like. They'll accept you or they won't. Certainly don't agree with political ideas just to fit in or participate in activism that you don't believe is worth it.

But it's a vicious cycle. Black men disavow the alt-right because the alt-right tolerates white nationalists. Consequently, the white nationalists wind up with more power within the movement because there are no Black men around to help challenge them and moderate the direction of the greater movement.

Quote:

It's better to go your own way, you don't "have" to be an alt right member, you can be a nationalist/patriot whose proud of their country and want most of the same things white nationalist do.

I'm not going to disagree with this, except to point out that actions are what's relevant in the end anyway. Whatever the alt-right becomes, it will be based on its actions and the sum of its accomplishments, not the self-profession of its membership. This is especially true since the alt-right is an amorphous political and intellectual movement not an organized political party.

The alt-right is youthful and dynamic. It can still change, it doesn't have to slide into a short-sighted rehash of white nationalism. But if Black men bail and disavow at the first sign of white nationalism, it's going to be a lot harder to keep that from happening.

[Thriver]

(06-12-2017 07:41 PM)tom Wrote:  

(06-12-2017 05:36 PM)Thriver Wrote:  

Vikings were more or less blonde gypsies.

Never managed to create something valuable.

William the Conqueror, King Rurik and Oleg of Novogorad would disagree with that.

Rurik is mostly a mythology and even his so called castle or home base was basically done by fino ugirc people rather than germnaic ones.

As for William, the Normans were mixed people. They had viking as well latin and native mainland europan blood.

When william and his men landed in britian, he was speaking a semi latin language close to french and this gave birth to english language, a germanic language with latin vocabulary .

In general Vikings were just useless savages that were not efficient even in war besides not being able to construct anything.

There are endless more warlike people in the history of Europe, very much underrated by the fucked up western historiography and hollywood.

Hell, even goths were 100 times more warlike and successful than vikings ever were.

[nomadbrah]

(06-16-2017 10:28 AM)Thriver Wrote:  

(06-12-2017 07:41 PM)tom Wrote:  

(06-12-2017 05:36 PM)Thriver Wrote:  

Vikings were more or less blonde gypsies.

Never managed to create something valuable.

William the Conqueror, King Rurik and Oleg of Novogorad would disagree with that.

Rurik is mostly a mythology and even his so called castle or home base was basically done by fino ugirc people rather than germnaic ones.

As for William, the Normans were mixed people. They had viking as well latin and native mainland europan blood.

When william and his men landed in britian, he was speaking a semi latin language close to french and this gave birth to english language, a germanic language with latin vocabulary .

In general Vikings were just useless savages that were not efficient even in war besides not being able to construct anything.

There are endless more warlike people in the history of Europe, very much underrated by the fucked up western historiography and hollywood.

Hell, even goths were 100 times more warlike and successful than vikings ever were.

Strong salt in this post.

[R_Niko]

I'm no white nationalist, but
1) white
2) brown (Indian/middle eastern)
3) brown/latina
4) asian


5) black

[Suits]

(06-16-2017 03:33 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 10:28 AM)Thriver Wrote:  

(06-12-2017 07:41 PM)tom Wrote:  

(06-12-2017 05:36 PM)Thriver Wrote:  

Vikings were more or less blonde gypsies.

Never managed to create something valuable.

William the Conqueror, King Rurik and Oleg of Novogorad would disagree with that.

Rurik is mostly a mythology and even his so called castle or home base was basically done by fino ugirc people rather than germnaic ones.

As for William, the Normans were mixed people. They had viking as well latin and native mainland europan blood.

When william and his men landed in britian, he was speaking a semi latin language close to french and this gave birth to english language, a germanic language with latin vocabulary .

In general Vikings were just useless savages that were not efficient even in war besides not being able to construct anything.

There are endless more warlike people in the history of Europe, very much underrated by the fucked up western historiography and hollywood.

Hell, even goths were 100 times more warlike and successful than vikings ever were.

Strong salt in this post.

I detect no salt.

I also noticed that you didn't respond to any of his actual claims.

[nomadbrah]

(06-19-2017 10:51 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 03:33 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 10:28 AM)Thriver Wrote:  

(06-12-2017 07:41 PM)tom Wrote:  

(06-12-2017 05:36 PM)Thriver Wrote:  

Vikings were more or less blonde gypsies.

Never managed to create something valuable.

William the Conqueror, King Rurik and Oleg of Novogorad would disagree with that.

Rurik is mostly a mythology and even his so called castle or home base was basically done by fino ugirc people rather than germnaic ones.

As for William, the Normans were mixed people. They had viking as well latin and native mainland europan blood.

When william and his men landed in britian, he was speaking a semi latin language close to french and this gave birth to english language, a germanic language with latin vocabulary .

In general Vikings were just useless savages that were not efficient even in war besides not being able to construct anything.

There are endless more warlike people in the history of Europe, very much underrated by the fucked up western historiography and hollywood.

Hell, even goths were 100 times more warlike and successful than vikings ever were.

Strong salt in this post.

I detect no salt.

I also noticed that you didn't respond to any of his actual claims.

If I were to respond it would make the thread go off topic very quickly.

For example, just the word Salt, you wouldn't use that word if the Vikings and other Nordic people hadn't invaded Britain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_En...rse_origin

The funny thing is he brings up Goths and he could bring up Anglo-Saxons (Angles and Saxons) or Cimbrians or Teutons and they were all the same Nordic people from the same area. When the Vikings attacked Britain, they were merely attacking their own tribesmen who invaded some 500 years earlier. The Goths were from Gothland in Sweden.

Vikings were just the latest iteration of Germanic people invading the rest of Europe. A Viking is a Goth or Anglo-Saxon with a better ship and better steel.

[TravelerKai]

(06-16-2017 10:28 AM)Thriver Wrote:  

(06-12-2017 07:41 PM)tom Wrote:  

(06-12-2017 05:36 PM)Thriver Wrote:  

Vikings were more or less blonde gypsies.

Never managed to create something valuable.

William the Conqueror, King Rurik and Oleg of Novogorad would disagree with that.

In general Vikings were just useless savages that were not efficient even in war

Have to stop you there.

Vikings were martial arts geniuses, genius armorers and weapons crafters, and excellent battle tacticians.

Their steel forging techniques were WAAAAY ahead of it's time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulfberht_swords

Their Dane Axe's were extremely clever for the times.

Doubling as a tool when not at war, when it was time for battle it was a deadly weapon. Notice in that photo, they would use that long pole to reach past their enemy's shield defense and split skulls. In a battle this would absolutely fuck the enemy's front line and demoralize them causing them to reel backwards into their rear line. Even if the enemy was wearing a helmet, that axe would still split the face. Absolutely brutal! They would hook/sweep feet with that axe, then follow up high. These guys had mad skills.

These guys used kicks, elbows, trip/sweeps, shields and multiple types of weapons to win fights. The were not some barbaric people in the way you suggest. They were very intelligent people. Not all that much different from other warrior cultures like the Zulu, Scythians, The Huns, etc. Each group were innovators in something related to combat.

They were the best mercenaries in the world at one point because of their battlefield skill. You cannot last long as a merc if you tend to die like raw meat in a grinder.

You need to join a HEMAA or ARMA class or seminar and learn how people from those times, etc. fought and learn about the weaponry. All this imagery of anyone not Roman Empire, as barbarians with swashbuckling fighting skills reeks of ignorance. Go get some knowledge and check out their history on a combat level.

All that aside, is anyone willing to show some proof that Dave Chapelle is a BN? If he is one, that is news to me. I'm surprised no one called the OP out for that already. Just because dude is a Muslim does not mean that he is a BN. If he was, I don't think he would be with a Filipino woman for a wife. That highly contradicts Pan Afrocentric thinking which is core to BN ideology. I even question how much of a Muslim he really is on top of that, but that's outside the scope of the thread.

[Foolsgo1d]

(06-15-2017 01:51 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

^^^Adding to this brings up an old conversation I had regarding the alt right.

They might accept your opinions, but you'll never be one of them - well - because you aren't one of them.

At that point I'd see myself as a lap dog being a good boy for agreeing with them.

It's better to go your own way, you don't "have" to be an alt right member, you can be a nationalist/patriot whose proud of their country and want most of the same things white nationalist do.

And a white guy can go to a country in SA, Africa or China and Japan and be an outsider regardless of knowing the language, culture and working there.

[numanist]

I've always fantasized about having sex with a Jewish woman in a yarmulke while I'm dressed in full Nazi regalia. Does that make me weird?

[IveBeenFramed]

Attractive w/ a vagina...it doesn't matter what your background is.

[Eskhander]

(06-08-2017 01:22 PM)Uruz Wrote:  

Don't know about US, but most of "white nationalist" (God, that sounds so retarded.) would ostracise you if they found out that you have just slept with a non-white, which I don't see a reason for. Most white men from the entire history before last 70 years would be marked as "white nationalist" by ordinary person today or even by members of this forum and I am sure that pride or racism did not prevent colonialists, soldiers, travellers, merchants, sailors etc. to fuck on their conquests, the same as it does not prevent me from doing the same. Especially if she will say "I am your slave." while I am slapping her big black tits.

EDIT : Not talking about settling down, thats as retarded as it gets.

Hasn't happened to Anglin. Though lots of WN 1.0 have tried. They also get mad at the AltRight for "not respecting women enough" or "permitting (past) race-mixers"

AR has actually done a good job making them feel unwanted.

Also, quite amusing to see riffing of Matt Forney in the thread. He's a manospherian again now, just like he was before.

[Eskhander]

(06-14-2017 06:32 AM)Excelsior Wrote:  

I think you means "lucky", not "unlucky".

And that's the Guns, Germs, and Steel approach to the topic. It's really not the joke you make it out to be, plenty of quite serious scholarly material has been presented with that thesis.

The thing with Guns, Germs, and Steel is it never asks how environment would change the groups dwelling within it

[Eskhander]

I hate to make 3 posts in a row. But I am seeing some people talk about the importance of going out to do things or attacking those who do for not looking their best...

When was the last time you publicly fisted a commie girl? These WhiteNats are doing stuff at the end of the day.

[numanist]

Quote:

The thing with Guns, Germs, and Steel is it never asks how environment would change the groups dwelling within it

South America and Africa are on the same parallel, they have similar climates and vegetation. In fact, these two continents were once connected to one another. The thing is South Americans are much more prosperous than Africans as a whole though. He doesn't seem to mention that in his documentary.

[numanist]

A lot of these Neo-Nazis are fake or paid controlled opposition. Frank Collin made waves in the 1970s for staging a march through Skokie, IL, a largely Jewish enclave. It was later found out that he was Jewish. The main motive of these agent provocateurs is to procure funds for anti-racist/pro-jewish organizations. Frank Collin eventually later made a career out of promoting black nationalist content.

Alex Linder from vnnforum.com is another example of someone who is more than likely a government informant. Glenn Miller and Hal Turner were long-time posters there, and it was later found out that they were government informants. Glenn Miller was convicted for killing 3 Christians at a Jewish community center in 2014. The last name Miller is also the 3rd most common Jewish surname. Now tell me that that isn't a coincidence?

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/20...continued/