[BC101]

(11-11-2011 01:12 AM)Insignia Wrote:  

(11-11-2011 12:59 AM)BC101 Wrote:  

(11-10-2011 03:01 PM)Insignia Wrote:  

Yea Toronto women might be "cold" or "bitches" but gaming here has taught me how to be more alpha, confident and more centered as a man. So even though I hate Toronto I love it at the same time. It is a challange to game in Toronto but I love it, everytime I go out and game, I am thrilled to take on the challange. The one huge plus in gaming in Toronto is your game will improve immensly.

You have a excellent point but sometimes shit just isn't worth it. In my experience hahaha. Especially when iam not out gaming, iam just out trying to have fun. These bitches have their faces all twisted up and incapable of having fun.

For me just going out and gaming a girl is fun, whatever her reaction maybe I just think its fun to approach. Everytime you see a cute girl you just go and talk, I always get excited because you never know what the outcome maybe before you actually go up and talk to her

Yeah I mean the definition of fun varies person to person.

(11-11-2011 10:52 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

(11-11-2011 12:59 AM)BC101 Wrote:  

(11-10-2011 03:01 PM)Insignia Wrote:  

Yea Toronto women might be "cold" or "bitches" but gaming here has taught me how to be more alpha, confident and more centered as a man. So even though I hate Toronto I love it at the same time. It is a challange to game in Toronto but I love it, everytime I go out and game, I am thrilled to take on the challange. The one huge plus in gaming in Toronto is your game will improve immensly.

You have a excellent point but sometimes shit just isn't worth it. In my experience hahaha. Especially when iam not out gaming, iam just out trying to have fun. These bitches have their faces all twisted up and incapable of having fun.

You guys are both right. Toronto girls are absolute garbage. Especially when you've been to place like Sweden and Russia. You don't see a quarter of attitude in most other places.

The only positive is that Toronto is a great place to learn game. The hard lessons really pay off when it really counts later on.

Sweden has a lot of feminazi's in my experience.. But if you treat em fair their good. Russia I have no experience with and can't comment, But i can comment for a few other locations in the world. All of which were "warmer" compared to Toronto. Perhaps its cause of the icy cold slags up here that Americans think it always snows in Toronto.

I didn't learn my game here at all. Could never ever be fucked enough to care about even really trying other than the odd few times. Learned my game whilst traveling.

[Moma]

I concur with BCO1 because in order for one to learn game, one has to know what works.
You don't learn how to be a great boxer by being punched in the face for your entire training duration and maybe landing a head shot once or twice per session.
It is a mixture of give and take (rejection and also being rewarded with tactics that work) that allows one to understand game.
If you rarely get rewarded, how would you know you are getting better? How would you know what works? You would just develop tough armour, that's it.

To give an example, the other week two of my lizard leads matured.. They are showing great interest. However, because I've dealt with so much bullshyt in Toronto, I am forgetting how to be genuine because when you deal with so many flakes, you stop projecting your true essence and just send in a bland template to pretend you really care about the lizards you are engaging with.
I personally feel Toronto is a passion bandit. It robs that shyt from you.
I went to Buffalo this weekend and the lizards there actually behaved nicer. I was actually able to pick out two Toronto lizards just from their dead attitude. They didn't enjoy themselves because the Americans don't really engage in the Toronto nonsense.
Me and my boys however, had a ball.

[canucktraveller]

(11-14-2011 11:22 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(11-14-2011 11:11 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(11-14-2011 11:07 AM)Moma Wrote:  

So in a nutshell, the deterrent is lack of jobs and bad vibes.

This is open to correction from any initial non French speaker who is non white and made a smooth enjoyable transition from Toronto to Montreal.

But Moma, this is contradicting the several posts/threads about Montreal being a laid back city with an awesome vibe, friendly people and DTF French girls.

So does the above only apply to white people who speak French?

Mixx

Visiting a place is always a different experience than living there. For instance, London England is a great place to visit. Great accents, fish and chips, warm beer, diverse clubs and minutes away from mainland Europe.
Cool.
Living there is a whole different ball game.

I know quite a few guys born and bred in Montreal that moved up here because they don't like the French way of doing things.

Again, I am open to correction. I can only say from what I have been informed and experienced. By and large, I am good at picking up vibes.

To further add to this, just because the reptiles will fcuk the guys doesn't mean that the society as a whole will accept the people on a general level.
Some of the most prejudiced societies out there will have lizards that are fully DTF.
It is one thing to be able to fcuk every salamander moving, it's another to be afforded the same opportunities to work and socialise without prejudice.

I agree with moma, as a tourist Montreal is great, because you are hanging out with the outgoing club and party scene and the tourist industry.

Montrealers (and Quebecers in general) are fairly arrogant (especially the separatists, but that's another story) There is no added appeal to being an english speaker like you have in foreign countries.

Drivers in Quebec are terrible, and their infrastructure is below par. The highway system is mostly built on bridges in the city, and the bridges are starting to fall apart. Entire highway lanes are closed because there are now load concerns on the major bridges.


As for employment, their are much more opportunities in Toronto as opposed to Montreal in the corporate world. The language barrier is not an issue for tourists, but for people looking for work, fluent french is a must for any high level job. Even for basic jobs french is usually required. There is really no demand for english language jobs like you would find in foreign countries because most locals speak fairly fluent english anyway.





This is coming from someone who lives about 30 mins from Toronto, but probably spends more time in Montreal in a year. Although I would move to Montreal in a heartbeat, it looks like a move to downtown is in the works for me because of work

[real2]

This thread is a joke...

If you can't get laid in Toronto, then your internalizations are coming off in your game...

I've always had success, in Eatons center, yorkdale, richmond street, your moms place...

Doesn't matter!

If your game sucks, improve it, get out of your comfort zone of sucking, and improve it!

I see chumps all the time complain; about girls being bitches, not enough girls, the girls arent hot enough, stuck up... what the fvck?

I went to a house party the other day, the ratio sucked, but half naked girls running around EVERYWHERE DOWN TO FVCK!

And guess what? Chumps complaining that there aren't enough girls? Victim mentality...

To conclude, this thread is a joke... I love Toronto pussy!

[BC101]

(11-14-2011 06:38 PM)real2 Wrote:  

This thread is a joke...

If you can't get laid in Toronto, then your internalizations are coming off in your game...

I've always had success, in Eatons center, yorkdale, richmond street, your moms place...

Doesn't matter!

If your game sucks, improve it, get out of your comfort zone of sucking, and improve it!

I see chumps all the time complain; about girls being bitches, not enough girls, the girls arent hot enough, stuck up... what the fvck?

I went to a house party the other day, the ratio sucked, but half naked girls running around EVERYWHERE DOWN TO FVCK!

And guess what? Chumps complaining that there aren't enough girls? Victim mentality...

To conclude, this thread is a joke... I love Toronto pussy!

LMFAO Ok...

[Saladin]

(11-14-2011 04:37 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I concur with BCO1 because in order for one to learn game, one has to know what works.
You don't learn how to be a great boxer by being punched in the face for your entire training duration and maybe landing a head shot once or twice per session.
It is a mixture of give and take (rejection and also being rewarded with tactics that work) that allows one to understand game.
If you rarely get rewarded, how would you know you are getting better? How would you know what works? You would just develop tough armour, that's it.

To give an example, the other week two of my lizard leads matured.. They are showing great interest. However, because I've dealt with so much bullshyt in Toronto, I am forgetting how to be genuine because when you deal with so many flakes, you stop projecting your true essence and just send in a bland template to pretend you really care about the lizards you are engaging with.
I personally feel Toronto is a passion bandit. It robs that shyt from you.
I went to Buffalo this weekend and the lizards there actually behaved nicer. I was actually able to pick out two Toronto lizards just from their dead attitude. They didn't enjoy themselves because the Americans don't really engage in the Toronto nonsense.
Me and my boys however, had a ball.

Very true. Toronto does kill passion. I've had to take the last few days off to just relax and build up my desire to approach again.

The one positive aspect of being rejected constantly is that social circle game becomes helluva lot easier. Chatting up girls in and after class is insanely easy compared to the punishment I take at the Eaton Centre.

[Get D]

(11-14-2011 04:37 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I concur with BCO1 because in order for one to learn game, one has to know what works.
You don't learn how to be a great boxer by being punched in the face for your entire training duration and maybe landing a head shot once or twice per session.
It is a mixture of give and take (rejection and also being rewarded with tactics that work) that allows one to understand game.
If you rarely get rewarded, how would you know you are getting better? How would you know what works? You would just develop tough armour, that's it.

To give an example, the other week two of my lizard leads matured.. They are showing great interest. However, because I've dealt with so much bullshyt in Toronto, I am forgetting how to be genuine because when you deal with so many flakes, you stop projecting your true essence and just send in a bland template to pretend you really care about the lizards you are engaging with.
I personally feel Toronto is a passion bandit. It robs that shyt from you.I went to Buffalo this weekend and the lizards there actually behaved nicer. I was actually able to pick out two Toronto lizards just from their dead attitude. They didn't enjoy themselves because the Americans don't really engage in the Toronto nonsense.
Me and my boys however, had a ball.

I completely agree with this. Something about the city suffocates social spontaneity, and beyond this knowing the way the women are here has a way of depressing your exictement. You feel much more alive when you're out of town (moreso than than normal when people travel). These aren't things that you will notice or have happen to you by spending a weekend, or even a few weeks, here.

[swisschalet]

I can see why any place could be bad like this in the dead of winter when it's well below freezing temperature and it gets pitch dark at 5pm. Is it considerably better in the summer?

[kosko]

Winter is not that bad here compared to the rest of Canada (except B.C.) I think the locals here take it way harder then it actually is. Nobody wants to go out as much, everybody freaks when its snows. That type of stuff. Plus the barren concrete landscape is kinda depressing. You just see ugly grey all around and freeze your balls off.

Toronto in the summer is nice. Its muggy as hell but people go hard on the town hitting up patios and the streets. Tourists flock in also and make the vibe nice as well. I used to avoid the tourist areas back in the day, but now that I am learning game I am going to re-consider this next spring/summer. Looks like it would be easy prey.

[wolfpack10]

Needed a reminder last night apparently, flew into the Mothership territory like Will Smith in Independence Day. My buddy and I approached a few pairs of girls in the 90 mins we were there, the most positive response was from a 5 & 7 pair, which ended in less then 30 seconds with a "have a good night guys"...After that we went left the city outright and went to Oakville.

Didn't even make it into the bar, chatted up a girl outside who got seperated from the rest of the birthday party group. She said they all left to another bar and she was going to taxi over. This was sort of white knight-ish, but we had no specific plan, we asked if she wanted a ride over to the other bar (like 10 mins). Having warmed up in downtown, I thought there was about a 5% chance she was saying yes, but she did. Had a decent night, met her sisters and friends, she offered her number before the night was done. There were a number of female groups/pairs just waiting to be hit on, and the place was full of older dudes and betas.

Its probably hit and miss, and the bars/clubs are spread out, but I highly recommend to those of us here in the GTA to give the suburbs a try. I know there is a lot of research in Toronto threads about pampered girls from Woodbridge, Burlington etc. acting like Queen Bee's downtown, but in their natural habitat when they are surrounded by substandard gentlemen, they become easier to break down.

[Luckystar]

(11-20-2011 05:39 PM)wolfpack10 Wrote:  

Its probably hit and miss, and the bars/clubs are spread out, but I highly recommend to those of us here in the GTA to give the suburbs a try. I know there is a lot of research in Toronto threads about pampered girls from Woodbridge, Burlington etc. acting like Queen Bee's downtown, but in their natural habitat when they are surrounded by substandard gentlemen, they become easier to break down.

I think you're right, but I don't think the good niche areas are the suburbs (definitely not Woodbridge, Thornhill, or Richmond Hill)...I've actually spent a lot of time in these areas. IMO the sweet spots are between downtown and the suburbs...the beaches, high park to name a couple. Neighborhood establishments in the Toronto core area, but not the suburbs. The suburbs are precisely what is wrong with Toronto (except for Scarborough...I know that will surprise people).

[Moma]

(11-21-2011 06:54 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

I think you're right, but I don't think the good niche areas are the suburbs (definitely not Woodbridge, Thornhill, or Richmond Hill)...I've actually spent a lot of time in these areas. IMO the sweet spots are between downtown and the suburbs...the beaches, high park to name a couple. Neighborhood establishments in the Toronto core area, but not the suburbs. The suburbs are precisely what is wrong with Toronto (except for Scarborough...I know that will surprise people).

Please elaborate on what you mean by the bolded, please.

[Luckystar]

(11-21-2011 10:41 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(11-21-2011 06:54 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

I think you're right, but I don't think the good niche areas are the suburbs (definitely not Woodbridge, Thornhill, or Richmond Hill)...I've actually spent a lot of time in these areas. IMO the sweet spots are between downtown and the suburbs...the beaches, high park to name a couple. Neighborhood establishments in the Toronto core area, but not the suburbs. The suburbs are precisely what is wrong with Toronto (except for Scarborough...I know that will surprise people).

Please elaborate on what you mean by the bolded, please.

People from Thornhill, Richmond Hill, Woodbrige, Mississauga, etc. don't realize it, but they live the same lives as people from Winnipeg, Regina, Calgary, etc. There is nothing authentic or progressive about this suburban upbringing/lifestyle.

Scarborough is an area that has its own vibe. The people seem more grounded, genuine, and authentic. There is less of a pure suburban feel to the people. They are more interesting and less redundant. Just my opinion.

[Saladin]

Every time I've been to Scarborough its been horrible, in some places as bad as India.
I did physiotherapy in Scarborough, I think I saw one cute girl in all my trips there during the commute.
Are there any secret spots or areas with nice looking girls?

My friend goes to STC on his school breaks since he studies near it, he says he has to be sharp since there are extremely few hot girls.

I do agree on High Park and beaches being great though.

[Luckystar]

(11-23-2011 01:54 PM)torontokid Wrote:  

Every time I've been to Scarborough its been horrible, in some places as bad as India.
I did physiotherapy in Scarborough, I think I saw one cute girl in all my trips there during the commute.
Are there any secret spots or areas with nice looking girls?

My friend goes to STC on his school breaks since he studies near it, he says he has to be sharp since there are extremely few hot girls.

I do agree on High Park and beaches being great though.

I was just saying Scarborough ppl are cut a little different then your regular suburbia. No doubts it's a bit rougher...I couldn't comment on the quality of girls.

[kosko]

Its always cloudy in Scarberia lol. I do agree that Scarb isn't a typical suburb but its still a fucked up place if you ask me. Its hard to get around and nobody enjoys being there IMO.

Yes GTA suburbs are pretty much Canadiana with a bit more ethnic twists thrown into it. I would argue a spot like Winnipeg is better because the women don't have bitch shields like GTA/Toronto women. I have gone to town on WPG broads many times. I find it way more easy to game up chics in Edmonton, Winnipeg etc. then Toronto.

My favorite hood is Little Porto, The Beaches a close 2nd. Little Porto is being run over by frumpy hipsters but you still find cute girls whom are still taking advantage of that cheap rent.

Now that winter is here.. now what? I have been here 3 years but this City turns into a wasteland once the temperature dips. Toronto people do not take winter well and close them selves off I notice. What do locals do for winter time excitement? Do the bars and lounges pick up like in most other places?

I am sure most broads now are tryna land a beta to score them selves a nice Xmas gift LMAO.

[Moma]

(11-23-2011 09:50 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Its always cloudy in Scarberia lol. I do agree that Scarb isn't a typical suburb but its still a fucked up place if you ask me. Its hard to get around and nobody enjoys being there IMO.

Yes GTA suburbs are pretty much Canadiana with a bit more ethnic twists thrown into it. I would argue a spot like Winnipeg is better because the women don't have bitch shields like GTA/Toronto women. I have gone to town on WPG broads many times. I find it way more easy to game up chics in Edmonton, Winnipeg etc. then Toronto.

My favorite hood is Little Porto, The Beaches a close 2nd. Little Porto is being run over by frumpy hipsters but you still find cute girls whom are still taking advantage of that cheap rent.

Now that winter is here.. now what? I have been here 3 years but this City turns into a wasteland once the temperature dips. Toronto people do not take winter well and close them selves off I notice. What do locals do for winter time excitement? Do the bars and lounges pick up like in most other places?

I am sure most broads now are tryna land a beta to score them selves a nice Xmas gift LMAO.

Work your online game during the winter in the dot.

Two years ago, I slammed five lizards with a combo of road game and online game in about two weeks.

One I hit up online, she came over to mine real late, I was smiling at her, she was very touchy so I got her to peel those jeans off and I had to pop that off.

Another online one matured that same week came over, we hit up Swiss Chalet, we ate, we were supposed to hit a club that night, I was tired and it was cold, we watched some flick and I was in those flowers by 2:37am.

The road game one was a fitness instructor who hit me up cos her ex wasn't hitting that right etc.

[kosko]

Damn. I've been hesitant to dive into online game but I might just do this.

Another question, I'm trying to build up a list of lounges to take lizards for drinks. In my old hometown I had a solid list of standbys that were gold. Here its been a challenge. Any recommendations for hotel lounges or lounges in general that got that nice set up to get close to them lizards with decent drink prices to get them drunk and loose.

Taking out a Indian lizard tomorrow, I don't like doing Friday shit with broads but it was the only day that worked for us, trying to find a quiet spot then venue change to a loud lounge on Ossington or some shit.

[Aliblahba]

What is the take on London, Ontario? I have potential business interests there.

[Saladin]

(12-29-2011 01:03 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

What is the take on London, Ontario? I have potential business interests there.

Hot University party sluts from what I hear. Thats just what I hear though, but evidence seems to point towards that conclusion since all the hottest girls in Toronto tend to go there.

I may take a trip there in Spring to find out if its the real deal.

[1bliss]

Ya London is a uni city. UWO is one of the best party unis in canada and has the hottest birds too. Also fanshawe... Definitely check it out, you won't be disappointed. Make sure it's not during holiday break though cuz most students will be gone.

[misterstir]

Well given the stories I hear from colleagues who went to Western, I'd say its a close call between Western and queens (kingston) for biggest party school/city. The idea of "Hot girls" from toronto is not even a myth, because for something to be a myth it has to be believed by a wide amount of people. Even at York University (probably the only place where t.o. girls let down their bitch shield) the only ones who will put any effort into their looks all have boyfriends. At first I thought they were just all lying but I started to notice a pattern of the hottest girlls showing boyfriend patterns (proof of boyfriend). such as
1. Dressing hot on one day (day when they go out with bf later), but dressing like garbage the next
2. Constantly checking the cell phone and texting
3. Having pictures of boyfriend outfront on facebook often prior to me adding them
4. But most of all I knew it couldn't have been premediated lies because I heard their friends ask questions about them and their boyfriends and heard elaborate stories about it that matched their facebook stories.

The best thing in Toronto would maybe count as a 2 or 3 in L.A. For example, in big brother last season P.T.or Dominic said Porsche was a solid 2 or 3. In Toronto I kid you not the average man would rate her a 7-8. It is that bad. What some do not realzie is entire cross sects of the population are just unattractive. And I would say 99% of the girls are basically unattractive. When I think back to my high school which had 1000 girls. I can't think of more than 10 that I'd want to bed and I went to 4 high schools.

[UrbanNerd]

(12-29-2011 01:03 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

What is the take on London, Ontario? I have potential business interests there.

It's one of the towns you want to go to if in Ontario. The "novelty" of an out-of-town guy still exists in places like London, ON.

[Parlay44]

Any info on Macedonian/Serbian girls in Toronto? Places they frequent?
I hear Toronto is full of them. Been wanting to visit and check it out.

[Luckystar]

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