[kosko]

(10-05-2012 09:35 AM)bodmon Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 12:03 PM)kosko Wrote:  

I have to ask if anybody hit up Nuit Blanche last weekend?

i was gonna go but first i stopped for a drink at bar near my place and then this happened lol.

(10-03-2012 12:03 PM)kosko Wrote:  

I found a new gem of a lounge at Queen and Dovercourt but I have to do another visit since people said strait up that the crowd will be different on a regular night.

i think you are talking about church. because of the set up it should be a good place in theory but whenever i go it's way empty.

Up the street a bit. It's called like Dog and bark or some shit. Its more of a Pub. Also some spot called Moog, Mood, Nude ...AKA..I have no idea what the name is. It's got those funny letters for its sign so its hard to make out, It's always got a line but I notice now the line is way more weak, full of dorks vs the older-ish baller crowd I used to see.

[1bliss]

^ I think you're talking about Nyood. It's small and has a section with a white/black wall with horizontal lines and height values n shit on it right?

If so, that place is a very good upscale/mature loungy club. Small but good. Lots of eastern europeans.

[kosko]

(10-05-2012 04:12 PM)1bliss Wrote:  

^ I think you're talking about Nyood. It's small and has a section with a white/black wall with horizontal lines and height values n shit on it right?

If so, that place is a very good upscale/mature loungy club. Small but good. Lots of eastern europeans.

Bingo! Thanks for the clarification.

Yes I always seen hot older broads in and around there with older kats decked out in suits chasing after them. Have you been there lately at all?

[1bliss]

(10-05-2012 06:23 PM)kosko Wrote:  

(10-05-2012 04:12 PM)1bliss Wrote:  

^ I think you're talking about Nyood. It's small and has a section with a white/black wall with horizontal lines and height values n shit on it right?

If so, that place is a very good upscale/mature loungy club. Small but good. Lots of eastern europeans.

Bingo! Thanks for the clarification.

Yes I always seen hot older broads in and around there with older kats decked out in suits chasing after them. Have you been there lately at all?

Not lately, last time I went was probably around 5 months ago. It was good back then but I still hear of some friends going there and having a blast.

[Saladin]

Back in town for the weekend. I guess its dead this weekend but damn the bars and clubs are sausagefests. Lots of fat girls too. A decent amount of hot girls too though.

Friday night all the mega fatties were hooking up with average build guy.

Toronto is a lot better in the summer. As soon as it gets cold it starts sucking. That's why visitors like TO, they visit when its warm and the hot girls haven't gone to school yet.

[brownman]

Between graduating from the US in 2011 and moving to Toronto, I was an avid reader of this forum. As my luck turns out, I moved to Toronto in Spring. While integrating into the workforce, I became twisted when trying to swim. My strong support network didn't help when I pulled a Sheen with endless cocktail binges, escorts, parlors and trips to Niagara. I lived with an old friend and had tight logistics, sports car and swanky address.

I did some passes in downtown, day and night, pulled the OKC and POF game and went to college parties - the women may be good, American swag has competitive advantage, but the women's attitudes are ridiculous. I pipe-lined 6 girls online, picked up 3 masseuses, a stripper and 2 normal girls in 4 months there. Managed to get 2 back to my pad, faced heavy LMR and failed.

Despite gaming, there was something in the city that just didn't click for me. I've never abused so many substances in my life, I even started trying to synthesize my own to get away from the dreariness. It's like the soviet union with undesirable women. Never met so many passive aggressive individuals, or people who could be so hypocritical. Decided to take a sabbatical before moving out west to pursue greener pastures.

[rudebwoy]

(10-07-2012 05:00 PM)brownman Wrote:  

Between graduating from the US in 2011 and moving to Toronto, I was an avid reader of this forum. As my luck turns out, I moved to Toronto in Spring. While integrating into the workforce, I became twisted when trying to swim. My strong support network didn't help when I pulled a Sheen with endless cocktail binges, escorts, parlors and trips to Niagara. I lived with an old friend and had tight logistics, sports car and swanky address.

I did some passes in downtown, day and night, pulled the OKC and POF game and went to college parties - the women may be good, American swag has competitive advantage, but the women's attitudes are ridiculous. I pipe-lined 6 girls online, picked up 3 masseuses, a stripper and 2 normal girls in 4 months there. Managed to get 2 back to my pad, faced heavy LMR and failed.

Despite gaming, there was something in the city that just didn't click for me. I've never abused so many substances in my life, I even started trying to synthesize my own to get away from the dreariness. It's like the soviet union with undesirable women. Never met so many passive aggressive individuals, or people who could be so hypocritical. Decided to take a sabbatical before moving out west to pursue greener pastures.

Another negative report on Toronto....shocking!!!
Good analysis.

[kosko]

(10-07-2012 01:14 PM)torontokid Wrote:  

Back in town for the weekend. I guess its dead this weekend but damn the bars and clubs are sausagefests. Lots of fat girls too. A decent amount of hot girls too though.

Friday night all the mega fatties were hooking up with average build guy.

Toronto is a lot better in the summer. As soon as it gets cold it starts sucking. That's why visitors like TO, they visit when its warm and the hot girls haven't gone to school yet.

I noticed the same shit. This Fat broad was all up over me last night I was livid at her audacity to think she could even take a sniff at me.

You realize in Toronto that 80% of people are from these bumfuck towns like Owen Sound, everybody has escaped for Thanksgiving Weekend. I can't even will myself to go out again tonight.. what's the point? Half filled clubs full of fatties, the only upside is that the 2nd Generation /immigrant girls AKA Latin and Asian broads will be in full stock all over the City if that's your thing. They all from Toronto and are not running off back to North Bay for the holidays.

I'm starting to get that cold feeling because like you said it does close up shop when it gets cold. I need to consolidate my game and just hit up key spots now and then.

How is partying and Gaming so far with school going Tkid?

[Saladin]

(10-07-2012 06:09 PM)kosko Wrote:  

(10-07-2012 01:14 PM)torontokid Wrote:  

Back in town for the weekend. I guess its dead this weekend but damn the bars and clubs are sausagefests. Lots of fat girls too. A decent amount of hot girls too though.

Friday night all the mega fatties were hooking up with average build guy.

Toronto is a lot better in the summer. As soon as it gets cold it starts sucking. That's why visitors like TO, they visit when its warm and the hot girls haven't gone to school yet.

I noticed the same shit. This Fat broad was all up over me last night I was livid at her audacity to think she could even take a sniff at me.

You realize in Toronto that 80% of people are from these bumfuck towns like Owen Sound, everybody has escaped for Thanksgiving Weekend. I can't even will myself to go out again tonight.. what's the point? Half filled clubs full of fatties, the only upside is that the 2nd Generation /immigrant girls AKA Latin and Asian broads will be in full stock all over the City if that's your thing. They all from Toronto and are not running off back to North Bay for the holidays.

I'm starting to get that cold feeling because like you said it does close up shop when it gets cold. I need to consolidate my game and just hit up key spots now and then.

How is partying and Gaming so far with school going Tkid?

School's going great man, I'm loving it.

The only way you can stay on top of Toronto is if you have really tight game and go out a lot. A strong mental attitude is required. You cannot care about rejection, take it seriously, and you must laugh in its face. Last night we had a bunch of guys threatening to beat us up because I was chatting to their female friend who clearly told me that none of them were her boyfriend. We had to dip pretty quickly but everyone's a hater in Toronto.

I'll be going out tonight to Tattoo Rock Parlour if anyone wants to hang out. I'll be heading back tomorrow.

[kosko]

How are Toronto RVF heads dealing with Texting vs. Calling?

I need to switch my game up: I am getting to passive and lazy with texting I find. I am stacking up tons or #'s but the ROI with setting dates via Text is dropping like a Brick. I am debating going back to my roots of just cold calling bitches and being witty with funny and long texts.

Of course this is only a Toronto issue as over the summer I was fine with locking down shit via text out West and in the States. I'm thinking Calling will make me stand out as I assume these broads are mining through a dozen + texts per hour.

How are Toronto heads approaching this? You prefer Call or Text and what do you feel your return rate is on each?

[Moma]

(10-10-2012 01:45 PM)kosko Wrote:  

How are Toronto RVF heads dealing with Texting vs. Calling?

I need to switch my game up: I am getting to passive and lazy with texting I find. I am stacking up tons or #'s but the ROI with setting dates via Text is dropping like a Brick. I am debating going back to my roots of just cold calling bitches and being witty with funny and long texts.

Of course this is only a Toronto issue as over the summer I was fine with locking down shit via text out West and in the States. I'm thinking Calling will make me stand out as I assume these broads are mining through a dozen + texts per hour.

How are Toronto heads approaching this? You prefer Call or Text and what do you feel your return rate is on each?

One gem that I could appreciate from the gmanifesto is that one should NEVER text those lizards except to convey logistic information. Toronto lizards need hard game. I got NUFF numbers when I was there but they were just text whores. Getting them on the horn weans out the time wasters. Lizards love to text and waste time and get their egos fluffed. Put them on the line with a call. Resist the urge to respond via text or call.

[Pokerbaby]

Ok another fellow Torontonian here. I agree. All my friends agree. Thi city sucks shit for women.

What's wrong with Toronto's women? If I could explain it with one sentence, this is what it would be:

Toronto women take themselves too seriously

The Women aren't chill. Even the heavy ones act with attitudes. They can't laugh at themselves. They can't just say to themselves "Ok I'm a fat whore". If you don't like them then there's something wrong with YOU.

As for the hot ones. There are plenty. Every big city has hot girls. But no other city I have ever been to had women with the sole purpose of going out ... JUST to act like bitches. There's no other purpose.
They aren't going out and getting hit on my some loser and then turning on the bitch shields. They go out "Looking for trouble" in kind of a warped feminist way.

It's also a tightrope. You need super tight game because one mistake can lead to total flakiness. First, tight club game, then tight text game. Then when you meet them you need to be super-cool. It's just too much fucking effort. They still might flake on you.

Why did Toronto get to be this way?

Well it basically combines all the worst elements of the USA and Europe. The prude stuck up bullshit of big US cities and the feminism of Europe. Every woman in Toronto has some form of higher education. Like Europe, Canada provides a social safety net and a lot of left wing, feminist values.

So I think for Toronto guys, travel is a must. If you learn decent enough game to be somewhat good in Toronto, you will roll in almost any other major city.

[bodmon]

went out to ossington last night

got rejected a lot

knew this would happen on toronto's hardest street, but my wing was there and i couldn't help but follow the bloodclaht


ok places on ossington, aside from the drake: dog & bark, the ossington

not so ok places on ossington: levack block, beaconsfield

[metalhaze]

Well the main difference between Montreal and Toronto, is that Toronto is a newer city, and is the financial and economic center of Canada as well as being the biggest city there (Montreal is second). So you have a lot of ambitious people going there to advance their careers and the mentality is very Anglo-Saxon.

So you could say that some people are more materialistic and capitalist there than in Montreal which has more of an easy going ,laissez-faire attitude (except when it comes to "protecting the french language" but that'c another topic).

That's probably why Women there take themselves more seriously than in Montreal. In my opinion.

[Pokerbaby]

(10-13-2012 04:02 PM)metalhaze Wrote:  

Well the main difference between Montreal and Toronto, is that Toronto is a newer city, and is the financial and economic center of Canada as well as being the biggest city there (Montreal is second). So you have a lot of ambitious people going there to advance their careers and the mentality is very Anglo-Saxon.

So you could say that some people are more materialistic and capitalist there than in Montreal which has more of an easy going ,laissez-faire attitude (except when it comes to "protecting the french language" but that'c another topic).

That's probably why Women there take themselves more seriously than in Montreal. In my opinion.

I hear what you're saying but I have also been to NYC and London and even THERE, the women aren't as hard to pickup as in Toronto.

[kosko]

Good to meet some of the RVF Toronto heads last night!

[kosko]

Toronto heads whats the game plan for your Halloween?

I dropped the ball on Halloween last year but this year I am looking to try and take advantage of the day. If there is one day frigid soulless women in this City would let loose I assume it would be Halloween. Every broad I talk to is damn giddy about dressing up like a whore so the prospects are looking up I just need to get some solid plans/logistics down. I dropped the ball on having my pad ready for Halloween so I need to think of Plan B's and C's to counter-act that issue.

[seeker04542]

(08-31-2011 01:22 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(08-31-2011 12:53 PM)Moma Wrote:  

If it's worse than what the immigrants have, then why immigrate?

Economics. Stability. Safety.

These things have nothing to do with culture.

On the one hand men on this board are complaining about the feminist culture giving rise to monster women. The feminazis are a purely western creation, one of which Canada is a part.

So, while the rest of us bemoaning the feminist anti male culture that is so rampant in the west, you are actually saying that immigrants should integrate MORE? NO! The opposite is what is needed. Women from traditional Chinese and Indian cultures realize that there are differences between men and women. They don't try to become men. They respect the role men have in society. They don't try to compete with men. If anything Canadians should be adopting their culture, not the other way around.

How can you possibly say that culture has nothing to do with economic practices, rule of law, etc.; if anything one could argue that they're directly related, i.e. boring stable cultures tend to be more economically succesful (Canada, Switzerland) while spontaneous and exciting ones tend to be economically troubled (Spain, Greece, Argentina).

[seeker04542]

(09-23-2012 06:18 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(09-23-2012 01:39 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(09-23-2012 11:52 AM)bodmon Wrote:  

so yesterday i went to yorkville and stopped by the hazleton and had one of the most delightful, friendly cold approach interactions ever... with a bunch of 40 year-olds.

i'm finding that older women have a usefulness for us pick up guys - they serve as validating warm up approaches before the inevitable rejections by the girls in their 20s. however it's a bad thing to get addicted to that validation and approach older women almost exclusively like my wing does.

It's a crying shame when healthy men have to validate themselves with retirement age lizards.

Just returned from Europe and the oldest girl I interacted with was age 27. Women in there 30's are desperate in Europe, in Toronto they still think they have choice.

I concur with this statement; a couple years ago I did a month-long intensive Dutch language course in Amsterdam, afterwards we all went out to celebrate, all the girls (except the French one) were talking about having surgery to tighten their vaginas to hold on to their boyfriends (the French was aghast that they were discussing this in front of me [in English]).

None of them were ugly either, I would say 6s and 7s.

[seeker04542]

(11-14-2011 11:22 AM)Moma Wrote:  

[snipped]

Visiting a place is always a different experience than living there. For instance, London England is a great place to visit. Great accents, fish and chips, warm beer, diverse clubs and minutes away from mainland Europe.
Cool.
Living there is a whole different ball game.
[snipped]

Exacctly what I tell people about San Francisco (lived there for six years).

[wildwyaatt]

(10-30-2012 01:07 PM)seeker04542 Wrote:  

(08-31-2011 01:22 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(08-31-2011 12:53 PM)Moma Wrote:  

If it's worse than what the immigrants have, then why immigrate?

Economics. Stability. Safety.

These things have nothing to do with culture.

On the one hand men on this board are complaining about the feminist culture giving rise to monster women. The feminazis are a purely western creation, one of which Canada is a part.

So, while the rest of us bemoaning the feminist anti male culture that is so rampant in the west, you are actually saying that immigrants should integrate MORE? NO! The opposite is what is needed. Women from traditional Chinese and Indian cultures realize that there are differences between men and women. They don't try to become men. They respect the role men have in society. They don't try to compete with men. If anything Canadians should be adopting their culture, not the other way around.

How can you possibly say that culture has nothing to do with economic practices, rule of law, etc.; if anything one could argue that they're directly related, i.e. boring stable cultures tend to be more economically succesful (Canada, Switzerland) while spontaneous and exciting ones tend to be economically troubled (Spain, Greece, Argentina).

I see your point but the argument goes both ways. How long was Canada a first world country for? When did they stop relying on exporting raw materials to the us and uk and when did they stop being considered hewers of wood and lumberjacks? In 1911, Argentina was among if not the richest in the world hence the saying as rich as an Argentine and Canada for the most part was still largely a 3rd world country.

The real problem with Toronto is girls are really just open to social circle gaming. Not in their social circle you will have to be mr. perfect to pick up a random chick and fuck her. You gotta say all the right things, and anything you say can be used against you like when a cop arrest you. Tell a girl she looks pretty today, "o what's that suppose to mean I look like shit every other day", whereas any other normal girl would take the compliment. You have to have endless lines of response to shit like this, and the answer generally involves purposely falling into these traps but with a smirk on your face ie" yes that is exactly what I am saying (and laugh)". You also have to not give a shit about any girl and avoid trying to get one-itis or showing too much interest in the girl, in fact it often helps to openly show your interested in other girls around her. (the jealousy card is one of the few a man can play in Toronto) because their egos are so huge it behoves them that a man could be attracted to another female beside them ie cutting their ego down to size. And I find that to be the best way of dealing with these kind of chicks, routinely cut down their ego til they realize they ain't shit.

People outside of Toronto don't understand that men are all assumed to be rapist, criminals, child abductors whatever by the general population until they can prove otherwise. Don't believe me, go and talk to a random kid on the street about any random subject, see how fast he/she runs away. If it was a woman, kid would gladly and openly engage in endless conversation. And it is the default of women her to walk around with a bitch face and be in bitch mode, so much so that if a woman is smiling at you it can catch you off guard and you might even think to yourself, what the fuck are you starring at. And then there is the fact that you have only 2-3 seconds on which to pick up on this subtle eye contact even if it is a room full of people which they will not re-engage if you miss. There are only a handful of girls maybe a few in 100 who will hold the eye contact. and I often wonder if any of these girls the 95% are fucking people out of their social circle

[wildwyaatt]

(09-15-2012 07:27 PM)Qwest Wrote:  

Fellas I was just in Toronto for 4 days last weekend for TIFF and had a blast. Stayed at my boys condo in the Thompson Hotel and did pretty well there. The lobby bar had tons of girls every night I was there and we took advantage. All in all, in 4 nights I got two bangs and left a bunch of chicks hanging who also wanted it. A Polish/Canadian girl and a Pakistani/Canadian bartender. Had an Italian girl come up to the condo in the middle of the day who I met the night before, and made out with her before she had to go meet her friends. I could have banged that night I suspect, but I went back for 2nds on the Polish one instead.

Pulled a ton of numbers the first night alone in the lobby bar on a Thursday night who I messaged back and forth all weekend but just didn't have time to see them all between the partying and everything.

Some hazy memories on some venues but here's what I remember:

The Hoxton had tons of girls (especially when Skrillex performed) but it is definitely a little hipster.

Bloak & 4th- Went there twice and it sucked both times. Never going back there.

F stop- I think this was the name. Was pretty drunk there and don't remember a whole lot about it but do remember a lot of hot chicks there. Managed to pull a # only.

Overall, I had a blast in the city, but maybe that's only because it was TIFF. Good logistics was key, and staying at the Thompson was prime for that. I saw TONS of hot girls out and about during the day also. Not just TIFF related chicks, but girls from the city you could tell. All of this was around the Thompson hotel/ King St.

I'm definitely gonna go back and definitely didn't experience the bitch shields others have mentioned.

I think I get the reason why outsiders view Toronto as pussy paradise and people who live there don't. When I first came to Toronto I was surrounded by all other foriegners who were newcomers as well, and in that social circle it was like a pussy paradise, easy to pick up, decent looking women not much more one could ask for. But as the group slowly fell apart as people moved etc. I found myself interacting with regular torontonians more and more and realize this was an exception not the norm.

As a foreigner or vistor you are likely to meet friends of friends who will be fascinated by your outsider/newcomer status (who doesn't like the new guy right), you are likely to be staying in a hotel where people you interact with (taxi driver, hotel staff, other visitors) are going to be nicer to you than normal. You in turn are more likely to be more outgoing and friendly as a result. Which increases your chances of missing the subtle passive aggressive behavior of bitches here.

You will likely meet people who are pre-selected ie women who travel in the hotel or locals who are drunk looking to have a good time and meet an outsider guy in the hotel or a rich guy who lives in one.

As a "native" you will likely experience a bunch of rejections and failures and likely view things through that lens to an extent. and come to the conclusion that pursuing pussy here isn't worth it (which it ain't). Perhaps as a visitor from a place where girls readily hookup and show their titties to random camera man ie girls gone wild in us college dorms, Toronto doesn't seem that hard. Well I'd liken it to fighting a boxer who has tremendous punching power but bad endurance. If you've fought 20 other fights, you know to run away from the guys power, bait him into shots and dance away by the time he counters and by round 7 you'll be dancing circles while he can't hold up his hands. But to a guy who has just been knocked down in his last 3 fights by the same style of fighter, you are going to have trouble convincing him to win because his success is so rare.

How can all the people who live here be wrong? Are all the Toronto posters just pussy betas who got no game? I doubt it. I'd say roughly 2% of the chicks in this city are basically easy who actively go around pursuing men and will sleep with basically any guy who offers them dick provided he is good looking enough. And the rest of them are a headache.

[pbw]

I am curious - how many here own a car? And does that help your game or make no difference? I sold my car last year -- I had it for five years and I found it did little to help my game.

[Sasha_Pua]

Fuck yeah.

FUCK YEAH.

I'm from T.O and this post is 100% spot on. I almost punched my computer.

I always thought it was me. I was only 50% right. Even after getting my shit together, it's still brutal every time I go back there. Especially after trawling through Eastern Europe - JESUS CHRIST.

I'd sooner die than ever live in T.O.

Good place to pump out some babies, but that's it. I hate it's guts.

Cool that there's some dudes from there on here... maybe see some of you next time I'm back. which is Hopefully NEVER!!!!!!!

S

[Moma]

(11-07-2012 09:20 PM)pbw Wrote:  

I am curious - how many here own a car? And does that help your game or make no difference? I sold my car last year -- I had it for five years and I found it did little to help my game.

You can drive them back to your place to bang, no?