[Delta]

(02-12-2017 02:44 AM)Arminius Wrote:  

There is no support in any of the research for saying that every black person is dumb. The same studies that reveal the persistent one standard deviation in IQ between blacks and whites in the United States also show that over 15% of blacks have IQs that are above the white average. There are plenty of intelligent blacks and plenty of dumb whites. Lots and lots of overlap, but big differences in proportions.

Two offset bell curves. That's all it boils down to. The fact that most people don't understand such a simple concept is appalling. Basic statistics desperately needs to be a part of mandatory K-12 curriculum.

[Lucky]

(02-12-2017 11:06 PM)Delta Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 02:44 AM)Arminius Wrote:  

There is no support in any of the research for saying that every black person is dumb. The same studies that reveal the persistent one standard deviation in IQ between blacks and whites in the United States also show that over 15% of blacks have IQs that are above the white average. There are plenty of intelligent blacks and plenty of dumb whites. Lots and lots of overlap, but big differences in proportions.

Two offset bell curves. That's all it boils down to. The fact that most people don't understand such a simple concept is appalling. Basic statistics desperately needs to be a part of mandatory K-12 curriculum.

Adjusting for socioeconomic status, the black-white IQ gap does not shrink.

Put differently, wealthy blacks are smarter than poor blacks. But wealthy blacks still lag behind wealthy whites by about 1 standard deviation.

[Atlanta Man]

(02-12-2017 09:57 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

Quote:

Grace Murray Hopper GRD ’34, a United States Navy Rear Admiral who made pivotal advances in computer science,

Why is it that whenever they find some woman to celebrate as a genius, it's inevitably in some sort of obscure field where you need a PhD to even begin to understand her contributions?

Because that is where the real work is done, the guy who won the Nobel Prize in math was being discussed by some smart people I know-I could grasp what he did was important but could not really explain it.

And for that matter, why is it that White people either roll over whenever Jews complain, OR turn into toxic "Gas the Kikes, Race War Now" idiots? Actually I suppose that's just people in general; binary thinking.

I have no idea why this is.

[nomadbrah]

(02-12-2017 02:46 PM)Kabal Wrote:  

Now we can see why it seems like every other historically eminent scientist is Ashkenazi Jewish (e.g. Einstein, Feynman, Von Neumann).

Newton, Planck, Heisenberg, Brahe, Gallileo, Pasteur, Fleming, Tesla, Eddison, Franklin, Nicolaus Otto, Guttenberg, Rontgen, Wilbur Wright, Mendel, Marconi, Von Braun, Graham Bell, Fermi, Kepler.

Jewish?

[Arminius]

(02-12-2017 08:33 PM)iop890 Wrote:  

Am I the only one that genuinely enjoys reading these threads?

We should just have one ongoing 'Racial Shitshow Containment Thread' where people argue about this shit and no one gets banned.

Prior to Roosh reading McDonald's work, I believe I would already have been smashed in my ass and balls with the Ban Hammer.

[Arminius]

(02-12-2017 10:20 PM)Lucky Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:45 PM)Kabal Wrote:  

I've never believed in a "Jewish Conspiracy" and still don't. US Ashkenazi Jews consolidate on many on opinions; it's because they're overwhelmingly liberal. Especially because the overwhelming majority of them have no skin in the game.

Since they generally live in nice areas (by virtue of their higher IQs and thus SES), it's statistically not them or their daughters getting blown-up, raped, assaulted, murdered or whatever by "vibrant" minority groups.

Jews have gentile whites to absorb that--if they're not God's Chosen people and white, they're basically asking for it.

To the extent that one may want to counter the viewpoints of PC-Lefitism, that means countering the opinions of many U.S. Jews.

I don't believe in a Jewish conspiracy.

In a previous post I shared Roosh's review of Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald.

He advances a persuasive theory that Jews are simply working toward beneficial ends for themselves and their group. There is no secret illuminati ensuring Jews get the best positions. That's silly.

Jews have tribal loyalty to one another. They help each other out, even if they don't know each other. Compare this with white gentiles, who feel no intrinsic loyalty to other gentiles. It is easy to see why Jews outnumber gentiles in elite universities and top professions.

If a group is cognitively gifted and loyal to other members of that group, that group will rapidly ascend in an individualist society where other groups don't have such strong tribal loyalty.

I am not making any value judgments for Jews or anyone else. For some, tribalism and loyalty are good. For others, individualism and merit are good.

This inclination of the Jewish people goes back to the oldest days of Judaism.

Martin Luther had quite a few rabbis lecture him about how wrong he was when he translated Leviticus 19:18 as "Love thy racial kinsman as thyself" instead of the previously standard "Love thy neighbor as thyself."

The commonly accepted view of Luther is that he lost his mind later in his life and descended into a rabid, insane anti-Semitism, right at the time that he completed his translation of the Old Testament into German. The reality was far different....he relied upon the Babylonian Talmud in order to produce a German translation of Old Testament Hebrew. By doing so, he was able to see how fiercely opposed to Jesus Christ the Jews were, and the vile ways in which Jesus is described and discussed in that book. If you're a zealous Christian and you come across a group of scholars from another religion describing the person you believe to be God incarnate as a pig, an ape, swine, boiling in excrement in Hell, it's going to cause a reaction, or counter-reaction, however you want to phrase it. We still see this same type of thing today among at least a small number of Jews:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XUXQGpxqY

I'm far from a Christian (like most of us here)...but it blows me away how philo-Semitic so many American Christians are, especially considering Jesus's own words to the Jews:

John 8:44 - Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

It's really hard for me to look at somebody like Tim Wise, or Noel Ignatiev, or Martin Schulz



or any of the long list of Jewish feminists (but I repeat myself)



without concluding that there is something significant going on - and that certain persons from the previous century may indeed have had a point, at least on the topic of this problem.

There just seems to be this seething hostility within so many Jews towards white gentiles, SOLELY BECAUSE they are white gentiles. It's so bizarre to me. Doesn't that sound like the same beliefs that prevailed to some degree in parts of Europe in the previous century, with the roles reversed? What exactly did we do to incite this kind of hatred towards us? Are we really the only race that has enslaved people? Are we the only race that has committed genocide? Come on. West Africans hadn't been enslaving each other for centuries before Europeans arrived? Genghis Khan and his ancestors didn't massacre millions and millions of people in Asia, and pile up the skull afterwards?

[Kona]

Are there any Jews on the forum that could put that IQ to work and straighten this out?

Aloha!

[Wutang]

(02-11-2017 08:56 PM)rw95 Wrote:  

(02-11-2017 07:23 PM)Lucky Wrote:  

(02-11-2017 05:58 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Yale is 72% white. 10% black. 21% Asian. 10% Hispanic. Some % others. And then the Hawaiian guy I know. Students that are mixed get reported in multiple categories.

It looks to me like the majority is white.

72 + 10 + 21 + 10 = 113. Some of the "white" students are not white.

But some are (((white))).

Yale is 27% Jewish.

Jews are 2% of the population.

Why are Jews more than 10X more represented than their national demographic?

Because the Ashkenazi IQ is approximately 110, and as such they will always be overrepresented?

I don't understand this forum sometimes. Supposedly this forum has become "red-pilled" enough to admit IQ differences between blacks and whites. Why can't we admit the (rather large) IQ difference between the whites and the Ashkenazi?

What I would like to know is how some people here reconcile these two statements:

1. White people on average outperform Jews in intellectual endeavors and pretty much everything else

2. White people have somehow been tricked by Jews (who are intellectually inferior to whites) into debasing themselves.

Shouldn't white people with their superior intellects have been able to see through the schemes of the nefarious Jews and dealt with it accordingly?

Nomadbrah also claimed that it was only after 1945 that we saw Jewish achievements coming to light is just plain incorrect. Already in the 19th century the Jews, especially those in Germany already were entrenched in intellectual life and had achievements in disproportional amounts compared to their numbers.

And even if it is true that somehow it was only after 1945 that Jews somehow bamboozled whites into over exaggerating their achievements - wouldn't that be an example of great intelligence - the fact that they were able to use their huge Jew brains to somehow program elite Aryan supermen into re-writing their own history? And to be able to even perform such a feat in the first place, wouldn't these evil genius Jews (who are not as intelligent as the more intelligent white people they fooled apparently) had already had to be in positions of power in different parts of society, especially those related to culture and academia and other intellectual hotspots? If they were in these positions it seems to imply they had to be pretty intelligent in the first place in order to occupy these positions.

For the record, I have a pet peeve with how any discussions of Jews in society will invite accusations of anti-Semitism no matter how innocuous it is and I think we should be able to have honest discussions of Jewish influence in the Western world openly but it's also pretty silly how people can't simply admit that as an ethnic group the Jews have been wildly successful. I don't know how a person can one moment brag about the achievements of whites compared to blacks and insist that people who disagree with that notion just can't handle the reality but then the next moment seem unable to handle the reality of Jewish success.

[puckerman]

Years ago, I read a story in the Great Lives Observed series' book on Calhoun. It told a story of Calhoun letting a slave go. He found out how difficult life was for a free African American at the time. He came back and asked to be a slave again.

Some slaveowners treated their slaves very well. Others didn't.

For the modern left, Calhoun's crime wasn't just being a slaveowner. He also advocated that states could nullify federal laws. While he never lived to see it in 1861, he might very well have favored secession. His home state of South Carolina was the first one to do so.