[Lothario]

Howdy Forum Players........

I am a married guy who found game very late in Life and I want to make up for time lost builiding career, now during the last 2-3 years my Game has exponentially improved reading this blog and having winged with some seasoned players on this forum but I still can not play the field as frequently and as freely as a Single Guy.

I know some might say..... stay faithful to my marriage , It's just not possible, High Testosterone , Genes etc...... This Dyck needs to get wet as much as it can...... (Don't really want to start a Right Vs Wrong Debate)

There are some experienced forum players who are married and still Game on , I have few questions for them.........

1. How do you find[/b]to game along with family responsibilities.?

2. How to keep your Gaming lifestyle discreet.?

3. I find it very difficult to game in the same town I live in and currently game only when out of town on business ...... Actually I am very nervous spitting game on chicas in my town as someone might see me ,on the other hand Out of town I am a fearless Approach Robot

4. I do not want to get divorced and do not have the pleasure of a open relationship , How do I juggle both lifestyles ?

5. Friends with benefits kind of deal fits the bill currently for me, How do I maximize my slaying options ?

6.Some where on the forum it was said that some girls like married guys where do I find these chicas ?

7.Very ImpAt what point do u tell girls that you are married ? there are 2 schools of thought on this both agree to not inform the out of town chicks of the marital status.

One school says inform in town girls that ur married before bangin otherwise if they find out afterwards can lead to Drama and Divorce, Second school says play fearlessly but carefully and if ur wife finds out so be it. I Subscribe to the first school but loose a lot of fish even after they were hooked and am unable to land them in the boat

Thanking you guys in advance for your input ..................... Lothario

[K-man]

Doc, I only have one general point to make rather than answer each one of your 7 queries - I approach game as a fun pastime for when I'm out of town or when my wife is out of town. My goal is not to get the notch 100% but rather to keep my game in good shape and know that I can create attraction, and have fun while doing it. I have gotten just a few SNL's this way but a lot of opportunities where I could have closed if logistics were better or if I got the girl's number and asked her out (something I don't do).
That has been working well for me so far in terms of emotional satisfaction, but if you also have to have physical satisfaction too, may I suggest escorts as a much safer option, seeing that you insist on keeping things discrete and not jeopardizing your marriage.

[Pilate]

I'm in the same boat, married young and still full of testosterone. I can't keep it in my pants. A job that will allow you travel is important, so is learning to become two different people. I do not allow my chasing to interfere with family life and I maintain a google voice number that I use for bitches that aren't my wife. When I'm home I turn off the forward and rely on voice mail through my secret email. You didn't have a facebook account either, too many ways for a jeakoys butch to find your wifes info.

I also commute about 30 mikes into the city for work, in the city I can do as I please, with my family safe from it all in the burbs.

I most of the time will tell a bitch I'm married as soon as they ask. No later, no earlier. It truely doesn't seem to matter. I tend to caveat it with the fact that I'm unhappy, but can't divorce yet because if the kids. Bitches are dumb, they beige you and try to woo you away if you lay the stick right. They also understand they are on the side if you are honest right off the bat. A vasectomy is important.

I don't work the married angle, I just don't hide it. I've yet to find a bitch that wanted to fuck just because I was married, plus I don't wear a ring ever. Rings are for women and super bowl champions. I am neither.

Don't game at home, its not smart.

[Sphere]

(08-22-2011 02:46 AM)K-man Wrote:  

Doc, I only have one general point to make rather than answer each one of your 7 queries - I approach game as a fun pastime for when I'm out of town or when my wife is out of town. My goal is not to get the notch 100% but rather to keep my game in good shape and know that I can create attraction, and have fun while doing it. I have gotten just a few SNL's this way but a lot of opportunities where I could have closed if logistics were better or if I got the girl's number and asked her out (something I don't do).
That has been working well for me so far in terms of emotional satisfaction, but if you also have to have physical satisfaction too, may I suggest escorts as a much safer option, seeing that you insist on keeping things discrete and not jeopardizing your marriage.

I've been giving this issue some thought as I'm in a similar situation and I want to echo what K-man says.

Because of logistical constraints and how well known around this area my live-in LTR is, I can't act too often or too obviously.

Therefore, I practice game whenever I am able without the bang as an obvious goal. I enjoy generating attraction and reading the signs. Like K-man, I just want to stay sharp, recognize opportunity for what it is and take it when I can.

Because of this I have decided that I need to be a bit of a hit and run specialist. I was reading the 10 minute lay thread (this is my first post here so I can't link to it; sorry) and have decided that I need to focus on those sorts of opportunities should they arise and just take what comes.

I think that strategy takes care of all of your questions.

[satanova77]

Similiar situation here. Thought marriage would take me away from women and game but it only made the lifestyle more attractive. So its a hard balance to game in town and keep your sanity.
I mostly game outside of town(luckily I travel all over) or if in town I talk to all chicks when i go out but only pursue those that are 45 min to an hour drive from where I live. And be really careful to avoid attachment. I have friends who tell women they are married and have great sex but I cant do it.
I have a different persona I use when I game. False name, profession and hobbies that have been developed over the years. Its kinda fucked up but at work sometimes at end of email when i am putting my signature, I sometimes put my false name instead of real name. Its like living an under cover life but its fun if you can handle it. If stress is too much or paranoia is there, its not worth it.

[Tuthmosis]

Thankfully, I've never been married, but I did run game during a period where I had a live-in girlfriend. It was semi-effective, but requires a lot of groundwork to setup. Frankly, in retrospect, I would have rathered go through the trouble of making myself single.

But here are a few things, off the top of my head, in no particular order that are essential:

1. Get a second, pre-paid cell phone.
This automatically removes the 80 percent of the problem of getting caught. Be good about shutting the ringer (or turning it off) when you're home. Better yet--if you're technically saavy--make the ringer on the second phone the same as your primary. Be ready to say you "found in the street and since it looked new you're thinking about seeing if you can have it cracked."

2. Pick up a "hobby" or join a "group" that requires weekly meetings.
This buys you at least one night a week where you can be out of the house to go work your angle.

3. Have a second go-to location.
This is hard and/or expensive. I've heard of guys renting rooms in a houses or furnished shit-holes toward this purpose. They buy a radio, a few basic appointments, and are good to go. The natural alternative is to always fuck your babes at their places, but the benefits of home-court advantage are hard to over-state.

4. Invent (or sacrifice) at least one friend and a "crisis" he's going through.
This will give you another night to go out on the regular. Depending on the nature of your relationship--and how much you've placed yourself on de facto lock-down over the years--you can "sleep over" at his place because you guys drank a little too much. When the "crisis" gets resolved, you can still hang with him because you "re-bonded" during your long chats. (Credit: Roosh)

5. If you drive, equip your car and find good, discreet parking locations.
I've fucked girls in my car and you can too. This requires having good music in there, a blanket, throw pillows, and knowing where to drive the girl. You should also use your car as your "safety island." Keep a stocked-up toiletry bag to clean yourself up before heading home, a water bottle for brushing your teeth, and a change of clothes to switch into for your "dates." Leave nothing to chance.

6. Have lock-and-loaded lines and excuses that you've rehearsed in the mirror.
I'm not kidding. If you get to this level, it's going to take a fucking PI to catch you. But, since you'll never make your wife suspicious, that won't happen.

7. Have different narratives for your prospects.
Sooner or later, questions are going to get asked of you. Be prepared to be: a guy going through a messy divorce, a recent bachelor, or a regular dude with a high-level job that gives you very little freedom. Pick your story according to your girl.

8. Minimize the number of people who know about your creeping.
You made need to confide in someone for some logistical reason along the way, but avoid this like the plague. The fewer people know about it, the smaller the chances that someone will open their big mouths: (1) in hopes of revenge-banging your wife; or (2) because they're a genuinely "nice" person who feels bad for your poor wife.

There's more, but that's my piece for now.

[Sphere]

Tuthmosis brings up the most excellent point that it's almost more trouble than it's worth.

The laundry list of ruses he presents that are needed to pull it off bears that out.

Creeping sucks. The only way I can see it working is if you never make any kind of connection with which you can be pinned down. Hence my interest in ways to maximize instabang opportunities on those rare occasions when it's possible. The rest of the time, just practice building attraction and reading the signs so that when you have the chance you can make your move with as low a risk as possible.

Better to make yourself single if possible. Not possible for me right now. Not yet.

[Clyde]

(08-22-2011 12:59 AM)Lothario Wrote:  

Howdy Forum Players........

I am a married guy who found game very late in Life and I want to make up for time lost builiding career, now during the last 2-3 years my Game has exponentially improved reading this blog and having winged with some seasoned players on this forum but I still can not play the field as frequently and as freely as a Single Guy.
Lothario

I appreciate your unapologetic honestly. It must be expensive juggling women and keeping your wife happy.

[Moma]

I concur with Tuthmosis. I used to creep and that shyt was long and drawn out. I had to use:

1) Fake names

2) Have them drop me off far from where I was staying and walk for about 15 mins to get back to mine

3) Put a phone lock on (she took my phone deliberately once and spent the best of five hours trying to crack the code so she could see the missed calls).

4) Delete incriminating text messages (both from inbox and sent folder).

5) Wash dyck always (my live in once took a sniff of my evil pelican in suspicion).

6) Always had phone on vibrate. Ringing caused the live in to be very suspicious (and rightly so).

I had her shut down a prospect and also she intercepted some incriminating text messages.

She also prevented me (indirectly) from slamming this sexy Puerto Rican lizard that was training us from America (that was a layup).

I've been shackle free for almost cinco anos a hora

[oldnemesis]

@Lothario:

I'm married as well. In my case, however, I'm pretty open with my wife about my fucking around. Obviously this does not make her jumping in excitement, and she would probably prefer I would not. However she accepted me as who I am, and she's fine with that. From my side, I respect her, and put some reasonable restrictions at myself to make sure this fuck-around will not affect my family life.

Since you're not a single guy, you won't have some options available to you. Those may look disastrous to you, but in fact a lot of those restrictions are in your head:

- You cannot bring girls to your home. However a lot of single guys cannot either, especially young guys. Some live with strict parents, some have crappy roommates and some have apartments so shitty that no girl would even enter one. So your options are: her home, your/her car or a hotel/motel room (you can even split the costs). A few guys suggested renting another place, but unless you're scoring every night, it makes very little sense financially.

- You cannot do long dates, like spend a weekend with a chick in Vegas. However you don't have to, and a lot of single guys don't do this (the majority doesn't have the money, or doesn't want to spend it). If she requires putting such effort to fuck her, dump her.

At the same time, you're in a significantly better position than a single guy:

- Assuming your marriage is stable, your relationship is healthy and you're not looking for divorce, you can limit yourself to disposable chicks. You don't have to worry if she's LTR material or not (if she looks like one, dump her), if she worth keeping in rotation (you shouldn't have one), and so on. Generally your strategy is pump, dump, forget, next. As a result, her quality doesn't really matter, which makes your job easier.

- You're less needy, and the girls feel that. One thing you still need to worry is to still have some neediness. I'd run out of fingers if I count all the cases when a girl was open about her desire to have sex with me, and I let it slip through because I refused to put even the smallest amount of effort. You're also less likely to tolerate bullshit since the vagina has significantly less value to you than it has for a horny single dude going through a dry spell.

So what can I advice:

1. Limit yourself to one night stands only. Don't do dates, don't collect phone numbers. And god forbid don't have affairs, this is just stupid. You'll get 2x more sex and 50x more drama. Do you really need a second wife?

2. The only exception from rule 1 may be if a girl knows you're married, and she is happily married too, and not looking for a divorce. This is still risky scenario as most females are incredibly mentally unstable, but the risk is low if you keep your dominant frame all the time.

3. Get a google voice number. You will use it when a chick wants your phone number. Some chicks want to get it before sex so she can call you back. Don't use make-up numbers because she usually calls it right away, and your chance to stick your dick in her puupuu goes to zero after she calls the number and talks to Sancho Gonzales.

4. Some dudes suggest getting the second cell phone. It makes sense if you run day game or online game, and arrange dates. If you do not, then you don't need it. You should not be doing more than one date anyway. If you're going to spend eight hours with a chick to get laid, and you're making more than $20/hr, just visit hookers, you'll save.

5. Make sure the chick you're talking to doesn't live in your neighborhood, doesn't go to the same gym and so on. You don't want to bump into her when you're doing family grocery shopping.

6. Do not neglect your wife (again, this assumes your marriage is worthy to you). You shouldn't be going out more than once a week, and never on weekends. A happy woman would have less reasons to snoop around, and even if she finds out, it will be easier for both of you. Think this way: if you fuck her regularly but you want more than she does, and she finds out you fucked another chick, she can rationalize it as "men are such disgusting whores". But if you neglect her and fix on another chick, then it is more like "he doesn't want me anymore".

7. WRAP IT UP. Yes, condoms suck. But you getting an STD is one thing, you're playing the game, you take the risk. Passing the STD to your wife, however, is a shitty thing to do. And incredibly stupid one.

Now to your questions:

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1. How do you find[/b]to game along with family responsibilities.?

This is basically the same question. And the answer is that family always comes first. This means if you set up a date with Miss Universe and your wife is sick and wants you to stay with her, there should not be even a slightest doubt in your mind what is the proper choice here. If there is doubt, you should definitely rethink whether your marriage is worthy to you.

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2. How to keep your Gaming lifestyle discreet.?

There were some good answers by different posters above. But my point is that you should keep it respectful, not just discreet. It is hard to keep secrets for too long, and sooner or later everything will be known. At this moment you should be able to stand straight, and say - yes, I fucked different chicks, but I never put my needs above the needs of my family. As said above, "men are natural whores" is an easy rationalization. This is what you want. There is nothing wrong with her and nothing wrong with your marriage, it is just nature. After all monogamy is not natural.

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3. I find it very difficult to game in the same town I live in and currently game only when out of town on business ...... Actually I am very nervous spitting game on chicas in my town as someone might see me ,on the other hand Out of town I am a fearless Approach Robot

Drive to a different location; different town if yours is small. Do not shit where you eat. If you think it's expensive and time-consuming, check how much divorce lawyers charge.

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4. I do not want to get divorced and do not have the pleasure of a open relationship , How do I juggle both lifestyles ?

Actually you might want to talk to her about opening up your relationship a bit. If she's Western chick, she may be actually more enthusiastic about it than you think. If you're worried about her fucking around (i.e. you think it is ok for you to fuck around but not for her), consider that she may be in exactly the same situation - i.e. she is fucking around right now, and she rationalizes it the way that it is ok for her but not for you.

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5. Friends with benefits kind of deal fits the bill currently for me, How do I maximize my slaying options ?

From what I heard FWB usually expect you to do booty calls with no advanced notice, which is not possible in your case. So either stay with ONS, or tell the girls you're married (you must really date down or be incredibly good in sex for this option to work well)

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6.Some where on the forum it was said that some girls like married guys where do I find these chicas ?

You stated it wrong. There are girls - most girls - who wouldn't mind fucking a high value dude even if he's married. Note the bold part. They fuck the dude because he has higher value, not because he's married. Do you think a chick who'd have a chance to fuck Johnny Depp would skip on him just because he was married?

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7.Very ImpAt what point do u tell girls that you are married ? there are 2 schools of thought on this both agree to not inform the out of town chicks of the marital status.

You do not. Unless you wear a ring, it is a rare question. And the higher your value is, the less likely you'd hear this question as she'd be afraid to hear the answer. She, however, will dig it indirectly in comfort stage, i.e. "why guys like you stay single?" Do not avoid the implicit question, say something like "it is not easy to find a quality girl". Note that you didn't say you're single

The only time when you can reveal this is when you're talking to another married chick who is looking for affair (see item 2 above). In this case saying you're married will boost your chances significantly. Don't forget to say your marriage is stable and healthy, and none of you is looking for divorce.

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One school says inform in town girls that ur married before bangin otherwise if they find out afterwards can lead to Drama and Divorce

This only matters if you progress into relationship, and this is BIG no-no.

[oldnemesis]

(08-23-2011 12:40 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

8. Minimize the number of people who know about your creeping.
You made need to confide in someone for some logistical reason along the way, but avoid this like the plague. The fewer people know about it, the smaller the chances that someone will open their big mouths: (1) in hopes of revenge-banging your wife; or (2) because they're a genuinely "nice" person who feels bad for your poor wife.

Isn't it funny? In my culture married guys are actually bragging to each other about banging other chicks; someone who'd rat out a dude to his wife would be excommunicated forever.

[K-man]

(08-25-2011 12:43 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

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7.Very ImpAt what point do u tell girls that you are married ? there are 2 schools of thought on this both agree to not inform the out of town chicks of the marital status.

You do not. Unless you wear a ring, it is a rare question. And the higher your value is, the less likely you'd hear this question as she'd be afraid to hear the answer. She, however, will dig it indirectly in comfort stage, i.e. "why guys like you stay single?" Do not avoid the implicit question, say something like "it is not easy to find a quality girl". Note that you didn't say you're single

The only time when you can reveal this is when you're talking to another married chick who is looking for affair (see item 2 above). In this case saying you're married will boost your chances significantly. Don't forget to say your marriage is stable and healthy, and none of you is looking for divorce.

Oh, they do ask. In my case, I wear my ring always - but even if you don't, a woman will certainly wonder if she sees a 30+, good-looking, successful guy who is single. She'd think you either have commitment issues, or are married and lying about it, or gay. There are even some lines I've developed about that - the one I most often use is:
Her: So you are married?!?
I: Hey, I'd be gay if I wasn't.
Her: How so?
I: Don't women always say all the good men are either gay or married? I think I heard that on Sex and the City. So I'd have to be gay if I wasn't married"

[MMM]

I agree - a separate locked prepaid cell phone always paid for in cash registered under an alias is a must. Don't make it easy for her divorce lawyer. Don't shit where you eat. Don't give them your real last name or address. Keep the wife happy and unsuspecting. Day game like a mofo and schedule your trysts during the day as much as you can. You are going to lose your wedding ring, buy an identical replacement. Schedule evening dates to coincide with work releated functions. If you're not a gym member, join one. The showers are priceless for getting the vagina stank off your person and for change of clothes. Have your excuses and denials rehearsed. Create a top secret hiding spot for the prepaid cell and condoms. Better yet, don't bring any unused condoms home. If caught, deny, deny, deny. Your wife desperately wants to believe you're not cheating and will swallow a plausible story. Enjoy all the hot wet snatch you'll be getting!

[oldnemesis]

(08-25-2011 02:07 AM)K-man Wrote:  

Oh, they do ask. In my case, I wear my ring always - but even if you don't, a woman will certainly wonder if she sees a 30+, good-looking, successful guy who is single.

In Europe they would. But in the US this is pretty typical situation, there is a lot of single dudes around. All you need to say is something like you're still looking for your soulmate.

[Lothario]

1 + for Oldnemesis such a detailed post #10, also appreciate your honest no bullshit approach to handle the puzzle of married guy's game Man I envy you......... Personally I would like to have the best of both worlds and have my cake and eat it too.

Thanks to K-man and Tuth and all others who responded, I have been already applying some of the strategies and will use others that have been posted.

More Input is always welcome......

Happy Hunting forum brothers.......

[BoneDaddy]

Hey Lothario,

Just wanted to drop in and say thanks for starting this thread. I've got some experience to contribute and a few questions for those more experienced in these matters than I am.

Looking forward to seeing more here.

Bone

[mofo]

Why not divorce?

[Sphere]

(09-22-2011 11:23 AM)mofo Wrote:  

Why not divorce?

Ever been married?

If there are kids involved it's the most painful thing you'll ever experience. The cost is also quite high.

A guy can really love his wife/partner and still want a little strange on the side. I get laid like a champ at home and my SO is hell bent on pleasing me in every way I can think of. Do I still think about a little on the side? Every god damned day.

My two cents, adjusted for inflation.

[mofo]

(09-22-2011 12:50 PM)Sphere Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 11:23 AM)mofo Wrote:  

Why not divorce?

Ever been married?

If there are kids involved it's the most painful thing you'll ever experience. The cost is also quite high.

A guy can really love his wife/partner and still want a little strange on the side. I get laid like a champ at home and my SO is hell bent on pleasing me in every way I can think of. Do I still think about a little on the side? Every god damned day.

My two cents, adjusted for inflation.

This is fucked up, don't you think? I think it is. I was in the same situation, the difference is that I was not married, only in a serious relationship. I loved my girl, though I wanted other women.

'The most painful thing you'll ever experience. The cost is also quite high.'

I can understand this but I think if you cheat your wife then you are a coward. Especially if you have kids.

It's so fucked up, it's not even funny.

Why get married if you want other women?

[Sphere]

(09-22-2011 01:03 PM)mofo Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 12:50 PM)Sphere Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 11:23 AM)mofo Wrote:  

Why not divorce?

Ever been married?

If there are kids involved it's the most painful thing you'll ever experience. The cost is also quite high.

A guy can really love his wife/partner and still want a little strange on the side. I get laid like a champ at home and my SO is hell bent on pleasing me in every way I can think of. Do I still think about a little on the side? Every god damned day.

My two cents, adjusted for inflation.

This is fucked up, don't you think? I think it is. I was in the same situation, the difference is that I was not married, only in a serious relationship. I loved my girl, though I wanted other women.

'The most painful thing you'll ever experience. The cost is also quite high.'

I can understand this but I think if you cheat your wife then you are a coward. Especially if you have kids.

It's so fucked up, it's not even funny.

Why get married if you want other women?

If my initial question seemed confrontational I apologize. I could have worded that better. My bad.

The question 'why not divorce?' is reasonable and logical. However, life is complex and simple solutions aren't always so simple. We don't always see what's right in front of us. We are not, by nature, reasonable and logical. That's learned behavior.

I see things from both sides having been through marriage and divorce with kids involved.

I stand by my statement that a guy can love his wife/partner and still want a little strange on the side. Men are hard-wired to be that way. Some are going to take the high road as your question implies and some are not. It's a big world and there's room for a lot of different ways of doing things.

Peace.

[mofo]

(09-22-2011 05:06 PM)Sphere Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 01:03 PM)mofo Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 12:50 PM)Sphere Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 11:23 AM)mofo Wrote:  

Why not divorce?

Ever been married?

If there are kids involved it's the most painful thing you'll ever experience. The cost is also quite high.

A guy can really love his wife/partner and still want a little strange on the side. I get laid like a champ at home and my SO is hell bent on pleasing me in every way I can think of. Do I still think about a little on the side? Every god damned day.

My two cents, adjusted for inflation.

This is fucked up, don't you think? I think it is. I was in the same situation, the difference is that I was not married, only in a serious relationship. I loved my girl, though I wanted other women.

'The most painful thing you'll ever experience. The cost is also quite high.'

I can understand this but I think if you cheat your wife then you are a coward. Especially if you have kids.

It's so fucked up, it's not even funny.

Why get married if you want other women?

If my initial question seemed confrontational I apologize. I could have worded that better. My bad.

The question 'why not divorce?' is reasonable and logical. However, life is complex and simple solutions aren't always so simple. We don't always see what's right in front of us. We are not, by nature, reasonable and logical. That's learned behavior.

I see things from both sides having been through marriage and divorce with kids involved.

I stand by my statement that a guy can love his wife/partner and still want a little strange on the side. Men are hard-wired to be that way. Some are going to take the high road as your question implies and some are not. It's a big world and there's room for a lot of different ways of doing things.

Peace.

I get it. Probably there is no right answer to this problem. At least I am not sure which is the right way but living a lie is not healthy.

[oldnemesis]

(09-22-2011 01:03 PM)mofo Wrote:  

This is fucked up, don't you think?

No, I don't think so.

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I think it is. I was in the same situation, the difference is that I was not married, only in a serious relationship. I loved my girl, though I wanted other women.

So what? Find a girl who will accept the fact that you want other women. They exist.

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I can understand this but I think if you cheat your wife then you are a coward. Especially if you have kids.
It's so fucked up, it's not even funny.

Sorry to be blunt, but being in this kind of relationship I I don't give a damn about what you or some other Joe Schmoo thinks about it. The only opinion which matters to me on that matter is what my wife thinks; your moral standpoint does not matter. Especially considering this is America, and my past experience with the holier-than-thou types showed that pretty much all of them have their skeletons in closets - and in some cases those skeletons would scare out an experienced necrophiliac.

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Why get married if you want other women?

There are two types of non-gay men - those who always want other women, and those who lie about it.
And you may be surprised, but some wives are even fine with that. No, they're not jumping up with excitement , but they accept the reality - which is that the kind of men she's attracted to will always be looking for a new hole to fuck.

[Ami5]

@ Oldnemesis:

And similarly, what if your woman wants a new dick to fuck everyday?

[mofo]

(09-22-2011 11:22 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 01:03 PM)mofo Wrote:  

This is fucked up, don't you think?

No, I don't think so.

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I think it is. I was in the same situation, the difference is that I was not married, only in a serious relationship. I loved my girl, though I wanted other women.

So what? Find a girl who will accept the fact that you want other women. They exist.

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I can understand this but I think if you cheat your wife then you are a coward. Especially if you have kids.
It's so fucked up, it's not even funny.

Sorry to be blunt, but being in this kind of relationship I I don't give a damn about what you or some other Joe Schmoo thinks about it. The only opinion which matters to me on that matter is what my wife thinks; your moral standpoint does not matter. Especially considering this is America, and my past experience with the holier-than-thou types showed that pretty much all of them have their skeletons in closets - and in some cases those skeletons would scare out an experienced necrophiliac.

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Why get married if you want other women?

There are two types of non-gay men - those who always want other women, and those who lie about it.
And you may be surprised, but some wives are even fine with that. No, they're not jumping up with excitement , but they accept the reality - which is that the kind of men she's attracted to will always be looking for a new hole to fuck.

If you can look in the mirror in the morning and be proud of yourself then go ahead. It's your life.

[BoneDaddy]

(08-22-2011 12:59 AM)Lothario Wrote:  

I am a married guy who found game very late in Life

Hey Man,

I'm right there with you. I discovered game a few years ago as well. I'm married, quite happily, I might add, but still can't stay away from the strange.

I have a job that allows me to travel quite a bit. This results in pretty much an ideal (depending on your perspective) situation where I'm in my home city most of the time, but every four to six weeks, I spend a week in another city where my company has another facility.

This allows me to always keep a few in the pipeline in the other city, so I'm not hitting it cold every time I step off the plane.

There are going to be those who get all holier-than-thou on this, but in my situation, it works. "What if your wife did the same thing?" some will ask. It actually wouldn't bother me much. We're not 20 anymore. I'm late 40s, she's 39...we're both into fitness and are considered hot by the opposite sex. I'm having my fun, and I wouldn't deny her the same opportunity.

We're totally devoted to each other, fully in love, and act like newlyweds after 10 years of marriage. This might not work for everybody, but it is what it is.

Thanks for starting this thread, I'll look forward to exchanging ideas and hearing about your successes.

Bone