[Sweety]

Hey Guys
so, i just want to write here something that ive been thinking/noticing.
I see so many guys in these PUA/dating forums, so desperate to get laid and it makes me think, why do mostly men have such low standards?

I honestly think that there are way too many men with low self esteem or who doesnt give much value to themselves because if a guy is going to fuck any girl not matter if she is dumb/stupid/boring/arrogant then it just sounds like the guy is desperate and have no self love.
I know that some girls put the pussy in the pedestal,but the thing is that some girls have high standards and think that they deserve the best ( which i think that there is nothing wrong with that) so what i'm talking about is not about beauty ,is about personality,So it made me wonder, if a guy is good/average looking and has a good personality and still is going to get laid with 90% of the girls he sees in front of him, wouldnt it be considered that he has low self esteem or something? why dont guys put the 'cock ina pedestal'? seriously, i would admire to see a men who doesnt act like his dick is something so worthless that can penetrate any stupid / dumb women he sees in front of him. dont you guys think that you deserve not only a hot girl but also nice,with sense of humor and etc? is bad to see that for some guys a vagina is already enough ( even if its owner is a stupid arrogant bitch)
seriously guys, give more value for what you have down there,specially if youre older than 18 lol
Just wanted to share my opinion
sorry for my bad english

[MiXX]

I don't think the guys here are desperate to get laid as you put it. I'd say they are desperate to understand the social dynamics required to get female attention.

Men are taught when growing up to be nice, a gentleman, treat women with respect even though she has done nothing to earn it except be born with a vagina. Meanwhile, (majority of) women are taught they are entitled to this without merit, and to exploit it to obtain essentials in life she would otherwise have to work hard for.

I admire men who seek advice from other men AND NOT WOMEN on how to get sex with women. It shows a touch of spirit and motivation; only a woman would interpret that as desperation.

Now, someone like SashaPUA, I agree he stinks if desperation. And why do men like Sasha call themselves PUA's and act desperate: simple, they have to prove to themselves that their lack of success in other parts of their life is not their own fault. Call it "responsibility assumption" (google it)


This is the RooshV forum; There are NO PUAs here, only players highly successful in all parts if their life, including women. Most come here to get advice from those players. Others come to troll until proven otherwise.

Mixx

[kerouac]

Guys don't typically think about how nice a girl is, or how funny a girl is, when they want to hit it and quit it. For a lot of guys, having sex is preferable to masturbating, and makes a guy feel more like a man too, so even if a girl is below his standards, he'd feel better having sex with her than making love to his right/left hand.

When a guy doesn't just want to hit it and quit it, the story changes and they look for things more interesting in a girl.

But your post offers a good suggestion to guys... Since perception is so important to girls, it is important not to seem like you would be willing to hump anything that walks on two legs. It's important to make a girl feel you like you're into her for something more than her looks, even if all you really like about her are her looks.

To answer your question though, no, I don't think it's just because a guy has low self-esteem that he is humping girls below his standards. It's just that he needs to get laid.

[Sweety]

(07-28-2011 10:39 AM)kerouac Wrote:  

To answer your question though, no, I don't think it's just because a guy has low self-esteem that he is humping girls below his standards. It's just that he needs to get laid.

so if he needs to get laid then he will sleep with any girl and thats not having low standards or being desperate? ok then
"ohh poor me i NEED to get laid so i will accept anything! anythinggg give me a vagina pleaseeeee"

[Samseau]

It's different for men. We can fuck a stupid bitch but still enjoy it immensely. It's not about the personality that goes with the vagina. It's about our penis inside of many vagina's.


A man doesn't have low self-esteem if he bangs a woman with a poisonous personality. He has a low self-esteem if he regularly dates a woman with a poisonous personality. When it comes to LTR's, men can and should be as picky as fuck. But for SNL's, who cares...

[el mechanico]

(07-28-2011 10:47 AM)Sweety Wrote:  

(07-28-2011 10:39 AM)kerouac Wrote:  

To answer your question though, no, I don't think it's just because a guy has low self-esteem that he is humping girls below his standards. It's just that he needs to get laid.

so if he needs to get laid then he will sleep with any girl and thats not having low standards or being desperate? ok then
"ohh poor me i NEED to get laid so i will accept anything! anythinggg give me a vagina pleaseeeee"

Are you here to figure out why your boyfriend cheats on you with dumpster cats?

[Moma]

To add to that, lizards are just as bad as men. I know lizards who are unable to get the type of men they want (either they are vastly overweight or just not that pretty) and they are as desperate as men.

They will sex practically any man that shows them the time of day.

It's simply a case of supply and demand. Lizards need sex as much as men.
That's why if you give a lizard many orgasm in one shot, half of your work is done in terms of maintenance.

[Amour Fou]

If there is a lesson that resonated deep within me is that "pussy gets pussy".

To hook up and keep a good looking, cool, non-neurotic/psycho bitch girl that is good in bed men need to work the field, and work the field HARD. Not only to find a cool girl (or more), but to have the knowledge and experience to keep them. This on occasion means to go for a sub par girl, if necessary, to stick to that long term goal of picking up higher caliber women, so you won't be needy and desperate when one comes along your way.

And if the guy IS needy and desperate, the ONLY thing that will change him for good is... banging lots of girls till he fills that gap within himself.

I think it might be hard for a girl to understand the implications of the male sexual drive.

It is a blessing as it is a curse to bear a penis.

[Moma]

I've never been to Brazil. I thought Brazillian women knew the score about men (which is why so many men love the women). So why is Sweety so condescending of PUA's? I know women from other countries that openly acknowledge that men are out to fcuk and don't scorn them for it. TnT is one of them.

[kerouac]

Furthermore, dumb girls and smart girls all speak the same language when they're having sex, and that's the language of Moan. To push that even further, when the lights are off and she's naked in bed and you're having an excellent fuck session, your hands and her body are doing the talking. All that matters is that she has an ass for you to grab onto, and that she speaks the language of moan.

[Stitch]

Quote:

Men are taught when growing up to be nice, a gentleman, treat women with respect even though she has done nothing to earn it except be born with a vagina. Meanwhile, (majority of) women are taught they are entitled to this without merit, and to exploit it to obtain essentials in life she would otherwise have to work hard for.

THIS. I have found that, in my limited (in numbers) experience, women say they want a nice gentleman that will treat women with respect, and indeed you can get attention this way (and certain elements of it aren't bad for initial impressions)... but they get bored and go after someone that seems more exciting. And we're raised not to practice "game"--not even to acknowledge that it is a skill.

Hollywood and society teaches us that falling in love "just happens". And for plenty of people, it does--or close enough that they never think past that.

[pitt]

Yo we dont really need that bullshit talk, i thought the forum didnt allow feminists to come and comment. I can imagine the next topics coming..jeez

[Screwston]

She should only be allowed to post in the travel section.

[blurb]

Quote:

Men with low standards.

Sweety, since you're a woman, I don't think you understand what it's quite like to be a male.

Men have higher sex drives and have a longer time in the game/dating market/whatever you want to call it. As such, imagine the time when you were the most horniest, when, as a woman, you wanted mind-blowing multiple orgasmic sex and was about to throw yourself away to any guy. Now, imagine having that feeling every second of every minute of every hour. That's what it's like to be a man. It's like a buzz. Men are hornier than women.

A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman. Men want sex, and, as long as a woman is pretty (passes the boner test), they don't care what race, education, class, background, etc. she comes from.

I've made this point before, and I'll say it again: A woman can get sex more easily than a man can. She does not necessarily need to look like a Victoria's Secret supermodel, but by just being an average, decent-looking girl she will get lots of male attention. She gets hit on in bars, in clubs, at parties, and during the day. There is no shortage of men willing to give a one-night stand or a short-term fling for the average woman.

Women have the luxury (for the most part) of never being sexually frustrated. Since you're from Brazil, here in America, full-fledged feminism has encouraged women to empower themselves and live it up in their young college years and their 20s only to want to settle down with a man later on (possibly in her 30s).

Now, men are sensitive to the idea that women "live it up" with players and badboys during the best years of their lives only to get picked as second choice when they start to age and their biological clocks start ticking and want a stable man as a partner. This is where some men become bitter. They get sloppy seconds. They think, "It's not fair that she got to have wild sexual escapades and I got ignored only until now. Hmpf." But this goes hand in hand with how sexual dynamics works. A woman can get sex more easily than a man, and because of feminism and the Sexual Revolution, you bet your ass they're taking advantage of this. Not all men got a share of the pie. This is where the 80/20 Rule comes from.

More and more men are seeing the matrix for what it is. If men want as much access to sex just as women enjoy, then men must learn game.

Fewer and fewer men make up the population of college campuses. Women have been making strides in the workforce while men have been stagnating. In short, men are dropping out, qutting, and checking out. This is not good.

Sex is the biggest motivation for men.

In Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's book,The Lost World, a young man who desires a young woman's hand in marriage is told no because of his lack of prospects. The young man promises to travel halfway across the world in a land where dinosaurs still roam the earth with a team of other men and then come back to her. Of course, (spoiler!) at the end of the story, the young man arrives home only to discover that she had already married another man (didn't feel like waiting any longer). But, in any case, this illustrates that point that young men are (were?) society's greatest assets. Men took all the risks, fought empires, boarded ships for months and years in filthy conditions, spent hours scurrying books and accumulating knowledge, discovered new lands, initiated space exploration, and advanced scientific and medical research all for the sake of women (pussy).

Marriage was a way to direct men's sexual energy into something productive by taking risks, dangers, building up society, and maintaining civilization in exchange for the hand of a chaste woman in marriage.

Now, all of that has vastly changed. Incentives drive behavior. If men see that doing X will get them Y, even though doing W will benefit society as a whole and progress civilization, then they're still going to do X.

Take Roosh, for instance. I'm not trying to pass judgment, and I admit that I would've probably made a similar decision to his, but Roosh had an advanced science degree and was doing noble work in cancer research. Now, his job may have been dull or boring, but I bet if it were the 1950s and Roosh had a faithful pretty wife to come home to with food on the table, I think Roosh would have continued what he was doing because at least he has pussy.

What I think will be coming on the horizon is a backlash against feminism and the Sexual Revolution. I can tell you that it is disheartening to men when they hear stories in the news such as homeless bums knocking up high school girls. It is disheartening to hear that the janitor that works at your office has fathered around 15 children with multiple women while you struggle in the dating scene even though you have a stable job and are a normal outgoing person. Men, if the majority will not learn game, will just drop out (Captain Capitalism, for one).

As for me, I'm definetely not going to miss out on the tsunami of punani.

[MiXX]

@all males on this thread

Let's stop trying to rationalize logic to a female. If she does nit have her answer by now, she never will.

Logic is not a females strongest point. No offense sweetie.

Mixx

[Sweety]

(07-28-2011 01:24 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

All that matters is that she has an ass for you to grab onto, and that she speaks the language of moan.

(07-29-2011 02:49 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Yo we dont really need that bullshit talk, i thought the forum didnt allow feminists to come and comment. I can imagine the next topics coming..jeez

oh yeah!

(07-29-2011 03:29 AM)houston Wrote:  

She should only be allowed to post in the travel section.

(07-29-2011 04:15 AM)blurb Wrote:  

Quote:

Men with low standards.

Sweety, since you're a woman, I don't think you understand what it's quite like to be a male.

Men have higher sex drives and have a longer time in the game/dating market/whatever you want to call it. As such, imagine the time when you were the most horniest, when, as a woman, you wanted mind-blowing multiple orgasmic sex and was about to throw yourself away to any guy. Now, imagine having that feeling every second of every minute of every hour. That's what it's like to be a man. It's like a buzz. Men are hornier than women.
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thank you for your really interesting answer i read that carefully and i admit you made me look in another way,see? thats why i am here! to understand different points of view!

so another guys,dont hate me,was just my opinion and I'm happy to read the replies and opinions in this thread

[dk902]

So just basically a troll masquerading as a woman, attempting to have a 'logical' (biologically incapable) rational debate about men trying to get laid.

Then trying to back peddle, feigning innocence and claiming it was a 'different point of view' after trying to label guys who want to better themselves and as Mixx so aptly put 'to understand the social dynamics to get female attention.' The concept of game and wanting to better oneself and helping others along the way would be a foreign concept your small troll brain.


'so if he needs to get laid then he will sleep with any girl and thats not having low standards or being desperate? ok then
"ohh poor me i NEED to get laid so i will accept anything! anythinggg give me a vagina pleaseeeee" '

Great articulate responses to previous posters comments in the form of an icon and smiley faces. If that's not trolling, then whatever, you add no value. Why bother? L'Etranger?

[MiXX]

Yeah, I definitely should of put more smiley icons and acronyms and answer just like a text message.


Mixx

[Luckystar]

Where's your pic, Sweety?

[Mrs. Chocolate]

I'm a girl and since I got here for a while, I got it: brunetes, blonds, asian, dumb, spotted, colourful, psycho women. ALL OF THEM ARE WOMEN and to men WOMEN IS A WOMEN and they want to have sex with them. Period. As long she is, somehow, attractive.
Women are attached to feelings to induce sex, men are attached to their own needs (physical needs) to have sex. And this is why they want to know how to interact better with women and try more types of women and attract a bigger range of them.
To sum up: Men have sex and maybe fall in love later, not first.
Women fall in love first, and have sex later. (usually, not always)

[whosyourdaddy]

Sweety, it's real easy. Food is a good comparison to sex for men. If you regularly get good food, it doesn't matter much to you. But if you go for a period without it, it will drive you crazy. Any kind of food then becomes REALLY appetizing and you will settle for practically anything. Masturbating is like getting tasteless food. An ugly girl is like getting a cheap hot dog.

In other words, normally, i wouldn't consider a cheap hot dog great food. But if you are hungry enough it will be very appealing!! And hot looking girl is like upscale, gourmet and very flavorful food. Not only that, afterwards, you will regret eating that nasty hot dog, and similarly, you will regret banging that ugly girl, but what can you do?? You were hungry!!!

So again, if you are not too hungry, you'll only seek out the best food. Unfortunately, yes, some guys are happy with nasty burgers and hot dogs!!

[OGNorCal707]

(07-29-2011 04:15 AM)blurb Wrote:  

Quote:

Men with low standards.

Sweety, since you're a woman, I don't think you understand what it's quite like to be a male.

Men have higher sex drives and have a longer time in the game/dating market/whatever you want to call it. As such, imagine the time when you were the most horniest, when, as a woman, you wanted mind-blowing multiple orgasmic sex and was about to throw yourself away to any guy. Now, imagine having that feeling every second of every minute of every hour. That's what it's like to be a man. It's like a buzz. Men are hornier than women.

A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman. Men want sex, and, as long as a woman is pretty (passes the boner test), they don't care what race, education, class, background, etc. she comes from.

I've made this point before, and I'll say it again: A woman can get sex more easily than a man can. She does not necessarily need to look like a Victoria's Secret supermodel, but by just being an average, decent-looking girl she will get lots of male attention. She gets hit on in bars, in clubs, at parties, and during the day. There is no shortage of men willing to give a one-night stand or a short-term fling for the average woman.

Women have the luxury (for the most part) of never being sexually frustrated. Since you're from Brazil, here in America, full-fledged feminism has encouraged women to empower themselves and live it up in their young college years and their 20s only to want to settle down with a man later on (possibly in her 30s).

Now, men are sensitive to the idea that women "live it up" with players and badboys during the best years of their lives only to get picked as second choice when they start to age and their biological clocks start ticking and want a stable man as a partner. This is where some men become bitter. They get sloppy seconds. They think, "It's not fair that she got to have wild sexual escapades and I got ignored only until now. Hmpf." But this goes hand in hand with how sexual dynamics works. A woman can get sex more easily than a man, and because of feminism and the Sexual Revolution, you bet your ass they're taking advantage of this. Not all men got a share of the pie. This is where the 80/20 Rule comes from.

More and more men are seeing the matrix for what it is. If men want as much access to sex just as women enjoy, then men must learn game.

Fewer and fewer men make up the population of college campuses. Women have been making strides in the workforce while men have been stagnating. In short, men are dropping out, qutting, and checking out. This is not good.

Sex is the biggest motivation for men.

In Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's book,The Lost World, a young man who desires a young woman's hand in marriage is told no because of his lack of prospects. The young man promises to travel halfway across the world in a land where dinosaurs still roam the earth with a team of other men and then come back to her. Of course, (spoiler!) at the end of the story, the young man arrives home only to discover that she had already married another man (didn't feel like waiting any longer). But, in any case, this illustrates that point that young men are (were?) society's greatest assets. Men took all the risks, fought empires, boarded ships for months and years in filthy conditions, spent hours scurrying books and accumulating knowledge, discovered new lands, initiated space exploration, and advanced scientific and medical research all for the sake of women (pussy).

Marriage was a way to direct men's sexual energy into something productive by taking risks, dangers, building up society, and maintaining civilization in exchange for the hand of a chaste woman in marriage.

Now, all of that has vastly changed. Incentives drive behavior. If men see that doing X will get them Y, even though doing W will benefit society as a whole and progress civilization, then they're still going to do X.

Take Roosh, for instance. I'm not trying to pass judgment, and I admit that I would've probably made a similar decision to his, but Roosh had an advanced science degree and was doing noble work in cancer research. Now, his job may have been dull or boring, but I bet if it were the 1950s and Roosh had a faithful pretty wife to come home to with food on the table, I think Roosh would have continued what he was doing because at least he has pussy.

What I think will be coming on the horizon is a backlash against feminism and the Sexual Revolution. I can tell you that it is disheartening to men when they hear stories in the news such as homeless bums knocking up high school girls. It is disheartening to hear that the janitor that works at your office has fathered around 15 children with multiple women while you struggle in the dating scene even though you have a stable job and are a normal outgoing person. Men, if the majority will not learn game, will just drop out (Captain Capitalism, for one).

As for me, I'm definetely not going to miss out on the tsunami of punani.

I ignored this thread at first, but I'm glad I checked it out, because while it's nothing knew to me, there are some interesting points made and broken down. Good replies from blurb, Amour Fou, and Whosyourdaddy, your' insightfulness is why I repped you guys. Whosyourdaddy, I especially like your analogy with food, it's so true!

[CJ]

I think of my dick like Cortés, da Gama, or Magellan, he's an explorer, always looking to discover new lands. It's as simple as that, some men have an innate desire to explore and discover new things, or at least things that are new to them.

[Roosh]

Sweety has been banned.

When she first came on the forum, she made a solid contribution to a Brazil thread, so I decided to let her stay. Unfortunately she got a taste of the attention and started trolling for more.

In the future all females will be instantly banned. Hit the report button when you see them.

[kerouac]

Now that she's been banned maybe you can post up some of the orkut pics of her. was she hot?