@Rocha Your point is taken. Personally my own perspective on human nature allows for me to recognize our flaws without becoming negative or approaching the world with a "trust no one" attitude. Believe it or not, I'm extremely optimistic about other people and tend to always give them the benefit of the doubt.
To me, recognizing the possibility for these situations isn't much different than recognizing my own desire to sleep with other women when I'm in a relationship. Once I'm past the just dating stage, I refuse to cheat, even when I'm out of town, but that doesn't mean I stop having the urge to have sex with other women, and these women are often the ones in my closest vicinity (I.e. Her friends and family).
I don't act on these urges, but they are very human and real, and yet another example of the temptations created by close vicinity.
On a similar vein I generally do my best not to mess around with taken women, whether I know their man or not. This doesn't mean, however, I'm never tempted by them, and these experiences color the lens i take to my own relationships.
So my contention is we do the right thing in spite of our urges, not because we're somehow so pure they don't exist.
In my eyes, becoming apathetic and negative about the world because raw truths make you uncomfortable is a weakness (not talking about you but rather the general feeling you're concerned about). And men should have the courage to recognise and account for the truths in nature without letting them jade us....
As I like to say, take the world on the world's terms instead of how you wish it was.
I actually wrote an article recently about the difference between this courageous handling of humanity and what I see as the defeated apathetic attitude discussed in a current thread, and I will be posting it on my blog. So perhaps the fact that I'd been thinking about that issue recently contributed to the way I handled this topic in the OP.
I do understand that many guys can't weigh these issues without feeling negative about their fellow man, though, so I do appreciate your concern. For good measure, I'll voice again something I mentioned earlier in the thread, which is that I think
most people of both sexes can be trusted to do the right thing in most situations.
Quote: (12-26-2015 05:02 PM)Rocha Wrote:
For the record also, my use of the "alpha" term, came in reaction to your "but at the end of the day, it's not the sex starved beta's pecker that finds itself inside your ole lady." My conception of an alpha male can be wrong, but I relate it more with a man with options, rather than a predatory behaviour of laying the wife of a guy who gave him shelter.
Gotcha. I only said that in response to another poster saying you have more you worry about from a "sex starved beta" than an accomplished player who gets laid a lot. To reiterate that point, my assertion is that this dichotomy is false because the sex starved beta couldn't sleep with your woman if he tried, while a spontaneous attraction can easily be triggered when a woman is around a man who has a knack for seduction.
My response was meant to make a purely practical point. Like it or not, women all over the planet cheat on their men. I'd say it doesn't happen often, but when it does it is almost always a man with options doing the deed, so I think convincing yourself that men who have lots of sex are the "safe ones" is a major error in thought.
We tend to glorify those who are most like us, so it doesn't surprise me that on a forum of players, posters would project virtues on other players that they don't necessarily have. I was just pointing out the fallacious nature of that thinking - like most of us here, I've seen countless men with options doing very questionable shit.
Anyhow, all alpha/beta talk aside, I think we can both agree about what a man should be, and I respect and agree with your call for virtue, honor, and loyalty among men.
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"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
