Quote: (08-22-2015 07:19 PM)Travesty Wrote:
Looked through the "Wife" threads some piecemeal stuff about abroad, nothing serious I came across that comes close TravelerKai's China dating thread which is specific to that country and I will most likely use heavily in the future.
I've recently had strong gut feelings that are telling me I need to have a teammate, a real wife, to build a happy home and have at least 2 children with. I haven't felt this way in the past few years. I think my game currently is the best it has ever been. I am very tired of balancing hoes. I have exceeded almost every game fantasy I ever wanted and then some. I have done it without getting a permanent STD and want to keep it that way. I am not nomadic at heart. I love a comfortable home and I want a woman to build it with that wants to host friends and raise a close family.
I'm 30 and I want to find a wife 8-12 years younger. The age gap I'd want would be wider if I was ok with finding an older girl when I am older - I'd like to find her younger though and with less experience. I think I'd stay in the low-mid 7 range as far as looks. Open to religious girls, they just have to have my best interests at heart. I don't want to sustain the level of Game over the long term that comes with marrying a truly hot a girl.
I'd want a girl that is into her family. I would be find spending lots of time with her family as long as they are warm and happy people. I would have no problem treating them as I treat my own family. I'd be okay with lending them some financial support over the years etc... if they were good people I cared about.
Fact is I'd like to find a girl before she hits 24, and I want to do it before I hit 36 so I have a good amount of time to form a solid relationship before children.
I'd like to say I would commit to living abroad, I am not sure that is possible though financially to support a family. I do have a career in tech where I could work for an international.
I'm working on getting my current gig to let me remote from South America for a year. I am going to Colombia for a month in November. This decision was made before really desiring to spend my time looking for the best teammate possible over the span of the next 6 years.
My plan is to spend my vacation time over the next year on going to South America to scout incase I am granted the ability to remote in the future.
Whether or not that works out I would go to Europe then Asia after on scouting trips over the next 2 years using all my vacation. This assumes I do not find a suitable remote gig or international job before then.
The countries I would visit in this order over the next 2 years before picking one or two to heavily concentrate on trying to work at remotely or find an international gig:
Mexico
Brazil
Poland
Romania
Serbia (maybe Albania and Bosnia - are they worth it?)
China
Taiwan
Vietnam
(I prefer Vietnamese looks over any other in SEA by far - I left PI off the list because I have heard the quality is lower than people like to admit from forum members in PM's and in person and that they place is mostly a shit hole with too much pollution - strong words I know. I left off Japan because of all the crazy social and sexual norms I have heard about (also heard about no sex after marriage) and Korea due to the chicks crazy emotional nature, and what I have read is a tough dating scene for an outsider.)
I am going to visit these all with an open mind, honestly I think the only country on the list I could really live in for the long term maybe would be Taiwan or Poland, which I see as a large challenge.
I am putting work into learning Spanish presently. I will probably spend my mornings in Colombia going to intensive language school. I would study Portugese before my Brazil trip, and Mandarin before China and Taiwan.
Once I decide on a country I think I could find the best teammate I would dedicate myself as I said to working there remotely or getting an international gig. Maybe I will build an online business before then.
If I felt taking a girl back to the U.S. for whatever reasons may come up I would roll the dice probably live in Colorado or Texas where I think there is the best chance of raising a grounded family with a prenup or anything I could to defend myself against the worst.
Just looking for thoughts about my plan.
You may have some of your facts wrong about certain places or strategies, but in a big picture view, I do not see anything wrong with your plan. Strategy wise your reasoning is more than good enough to accomplish your goals.
The only few things I take issue with is the following:
Wife material is not 8+
Japan not having wife material that will take care of your needs.
The PI not worth looking at.
Since you are willing to chase 23 and under, 8+ is highly possible in many places. I won't lie to you, they are not easy to find anywhere. Realistically you might catch only ~ 5-10 that are wife material at best, per year. In my opinion at least. The trick is to break down what are deal breakers for yourself, find them very early on, be direct about finding out, and be quick to pull a trigger on the best scored ever. Write down all the deal breakers so that you can look at them and honestly see for yourself if your demands are unrealistic. Share them with a trusted friend if you want. Make sure you do not do what damn near every dude on RVF would do when grading women with that 2/10 mindset. Actually, you are one of those dudes. lol
If that ugly Chinese dude snapped up that smoking hot 9-10 wife in the Ukraine that makes his dinner naked, I am quite positive The Great Travesty can do better than that too. That said, you still need to have the presence of mind to not toss away an 8-10 like you would have in your younger years before you can find out enough to make the decision in the first place. Sounds crazy, but I can see you doing that fairly easily.
Japanese women are no different than other women. Rock their world and gain a stalker/fanatic. I thought my sex drive was high until I met women younger than me. I can barely keep up with my wife's drive to be honest and we have a kid. You really have to strive for bond and romance early on. Momentum is key. You will know what you have before you marry a woman unless you marry a virgin. If you know to look out for certain things like that, you will see the clues early on. A general overall lack of submission is the main cause of Japanese women doing that. Yeah there is a subculture aspect of them doing this, but there are many that do not adhere to it there as well. Asians do not all get married for love reasons. Any Asia pro here on RVF can atest to this. Many get married for social, business, and face reasons. Westerners tend not to notice this as much when we marry Asians because we never start off like that and our interactions are 100% lust or love from jumpstreet. If homegirl was not in a loving mood, their cold or robotic reactions tend to cause us to next them or not offer marriage or other things, thus causing them to disappear to our surprise.
Bottom line is that there is always a reason why and a method to the madness you see abroad. Just actively seek the answer and most of the time it will be made clear to you. Self awareness to look is the hurdle, nothing else usually.
The PI is not as bad as others made it seem, but they are not 100% wrong either. Most would make better wives than others, because their hearts are perhaps hands down the biggest in Asia. I know you are picky on looks and there is nothing wrong with that. I personally found them to be not ideal for me for several reasons, but physically very few of them have the hairstyle looks I like and the biggest sin of all (to me at least) was that lots of them shave their pussies. This goes back to what I mentioned before about "deal breakers". I am not going to go into a diatribe over feminism and shaving, but I have strong feelings about it and it is a complete and utter deal breaker for me. Not only that, the hairy ones don't look good to me any fucking way, compared to other Asians.
I greatly digress.... Anyway, high society Filipinos are the coolest of all Asians and the easiest to get along with, in my experience. The women are also extremely hot and compare to the hottest Japanese as well. Problem is that there are not a ton of them, compared to the legions of poorer and less beautiful ones. HiSo parents will probably make for the coolest in laws ever as well. Keep that in mind too.
As an end note, I have to disagree with my buddy VP about not wifing up someone you meet online or via pipelining. I met mine online. HOW you FIND them online is what matters more. Lots of younger girls have no idea what some of these websites or Tinder-like sites are. If you are the first guy to catch them before they figure out what kind of trash might be on there, you should not throw that opportunity away.
Pipelining is BOSS in Asia. Asian girls grew up with all kinds of women. Their Facebooks /Qzones/Weibos, etc. are full of intriguing women. NEVER be afraid to ask a 5-6 to meet her friends. NEVER be afraid to do that. I had an 8 (that VP thinks is a 9 or 10) introduce me to her 17 soon to be 18 cousin that was even hotter than her using that strategy. Never went anywhere but that was more because I stopped chasing her. ABP! Say it with me. Always Be Pipelining!!!
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