[porscheguy]

Watch her speak at 4:10. She was torn over turning on the crocodile tears.

[Ferdinand]

This is just a publicity stunt for Page. She knows that she's losing relevance in Hollywood, so she's trying to make a scene with a rising politician to gain some points with the gay and SJW communities in Hollywood. It's just like how she came out as a lesbian during a time when her career was declining. To her, it's not about having a political debate; It's about representing the popular Hollywood opinion to regain some popularity. I doubt she cares about the treatment of gays around the world. She only cares about the status of her career.

[Captainstabbin]

(08-22-2015 01:01 AM)Ferdinand Wrote:  

This is just a publicity stunt for Page. She knows that she's losing relevance in Hollywood, so she's trying to make a scene with a rising politician to gain some points with the gay and SJW communities in Hollywood. It's just like how she came out as a lesbian during a time when her career was declining. To her, it's not about having a political debate; It's about representing the popular Hollywood opinion to regain some popularity. I doubt she cares about the treatment of gays around the world. She only cares about the status of her career.

Same reason Janeane Garofalo went full SJW. They even look similar.

[RawGod]

(08-21-2015 06:11 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

I like how he kept saying "homosexuals" instead of "gays." That pisses them off.

I like to troll people in person by saying "hommo-sexuals" like a British theatre actor of the old school, rather than "hoe-moe-sexuals". Combine that with respectful and reasonable words and people's brains explode for some reason...

[Ingocnito]

per·se·cu·tion
ˌpərsəˈkyo͞oSH(ə)n/
noun
hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.
"her family fled religious persecution"
synonyms:oppression, victimization, maltreatment, ill-treatment, mistreatment, abuse, ill-usage, discrimination, tyranny; More
persistent annoyance or harassment.
"his persecution at the hands of other students"

I've seen nothing but the exact opposite, as if Federally legislated gay marriage isn't an enormous victory for LGBTs. They won't be happy until they CREATE more gayness, transexuality, and bi-curiosity. What they're shooting for is growth, not just "equality - " which has more than run it's course.

As I've posted before, I have to shelter my 7 yo daughter from this shit as I raise her. I don't want my kid to become a dyke, but I highly doubt that will be possible with a father like me. At one point in time, the word "gay" simply meant happy, and the rainbow coincided with the crucial scientific discovery of the light spectrum by Isaac Newton. I'm going to a gay rally and telling them I represent the science community so we're banning the use of the rainbow for gay projecting.

[Chauncey]

Trump/Cruz '16

[AnonymousBosch]

(08-21-2015 09:50 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

Man, her mother is a dog.

[Hardy Daytona]

(08-22-2015 12:54 AM)porscheguy Wrote:  

Watch her speak at 4:10. She was torn over turning on the crocodile tears.

I could tear the tonal inflections in her voice.
Somebody should have brought a bell to that interview. 'Cos school was in session.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Oh Ellen Page, how low you have fallen.

I used to think she was good-natured, cute and sassy in a good way (give me a break, I was still deeply Beta) in Juno many years ago, but over time she has slowly turned into a feminist monster.

[Tuthmosis]

(08-21-2015 10:19 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  

Serious question. Isn't Ellen Page a Canadian?

She is. That country seems to be an absolute factory for belligerent cunts.

I've said before, and I'll say it again: a cuntry country gets the women it deserves. Here's Canada's problem right here:

   

[Suits]

(08-22-2015 06:12 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

I'm not sure where Tuth found that picture of me, but let me tell you guys: learning to sit with my legs squeezed together crushing my balls was totally not worth the protestor bangs I got out of it.

Don't bother. There's better tail out there. Including women who actually shower regularly.

In the end, I didn't even waste my time typing up the datasheet.

[Dusty]

(08-22-2015 01:24 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

(08-21-2015 06:11 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

I like how he kept saying "homosexuals" instead of "gays." That pisses them off.

I like to troll people in person by saying "hommo-sexuals" like a British theatre actor of the old school, rather than "hoe-moe-sexuals". Combine that with respectful and reasonable words and people's brains explode for some reason...

Maureen Dowd (alpha widow):

Quote:

I’m worried about the Supreme Court.

I’m worried about how the justices can properly debate same-sex marriage when some don’t even seem to realize that most Americans use the word “gay” now instead of “homosexual”

Quote:

Scalia uses the word “homosexual” the way George Wallace used the word “Negro.” There’s a tone to it. It’s humiliating and hurtful. I don’t think I’m being overly sensitive, merely vigilant.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/03/opinio....html?_r=0

[WanderingMan]

(08-21-2015 05:51 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

Wow you see how fucked conservatives are with that video.

What does he immediately do? Explain how religious people have helped liberals throughout the ages accomplish their goals.

How does he defend religious liberty? He drops "diversity" immediately to justify it.

He's lost frame completely if your justification for your conservative position is "MLK and Diversity" you are done for.

I understand what you're saying, but you may be over thinking this one. I feel he did a good job simply relating to her argument. He didn't just shout out his principles or values, he brought up an example which makes it so the simpletons (like her) could understand - and, IMO, it worked! TC seems to know what he was doing, he also could have just been setting himself up for the forthcoming hammer blows that he was about to lay down, which he executed superbly IMO.

[Captainstabbin]

Not to derail, but I heard this today. Ellen's gay marriage agenda isn't equality, the endgame is to eliminate marriage completely. It's the final agenda of all of the homo leadership.

BTW - this is a woman pictured:

[Sonsowey]

(08-21-2015 06:00 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

What's wrong with MLK?

If you are a conservative and you want to justify your conservative positions, well, MLK is a liberal icon and you're losing frame by using him to justify your views. He was basically a socialist and the whole modern left lionizes him as a deity.

If your "conservative principles" are descended from MLK, you're just a progressive.

The fight for religious liberties, in Cruz's case the ability to tell gay people "no I won't hold your marriage here, no I won't bake you a gay cake" is exactly analogous to the fight MLK was in. Some people wanted the right to say "no" to black people in their restaurants, neighborhoods, etc. Obviously progressives won that battle.

The principle at play here is called "freedom of association". Do you have the freedom to associate or not with who you please? MLK flipped the script on that and in progressive folklore at least, he said "No, you do not have the right to exclude people you don't like from your restaurant, church, neighborhood, or anything like that."

And this is the world we live in now. Progressives are finishing off this fight, removing religious people's rights to say "no" to gay, trans, etc. people. It's the same fight.

Cruz trying to use MLK as a shield for the ability to turn away people you don't want to serve is indeed losing frame. It's like a "communist" having to justify their position by referencing Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman and pretending they would approve of some communist proposal. Complete loss of frame, complete losing argument.

[HankMoody]

Thanks for posting this.

I saw the clip shared around Facebook, but it was only the first few seconds where Cruz was caught off guard and Ellen Page had the upper hand. It was shared under the heading of "Ellen Page owns Ted Cruz." Quite the opposite was true. As the video goes on, he actually decimates her, and by the end she has nothing to say.

I agree with Sonsowey that he did lose a bit of points when frame was broken, particularly when he started to use the "tolerance" rhetoric of the left.

[Gimlet]

^^captainstabbin

I have written about the destruction of marriage extensively here, because I can't discuss it anywhere else. Keep your eyes open and you will see more polyamory article out there. Next up is legalized polygamy which will pretty well be the end of property rights/inheritance, which is the true goal in destroying marriage. Think about it, who gets the house if the purchaser of a home in a five way marriage with eight children dies? There is no clear right of succession. Ultimately, the property will end up belonging to The State, which is the socialist goal in all of this : everything belongs to everyone. But really, socialism isn't the end goal, it is Totalitarianism. Socialists are being used and think they will get a utopian society in the end. Won't happen. The truly rich, our oligarchs, are grabbing everything for themselves.

[rpg]

(08-22-2015 02:00 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

Not to derail, but I heard this today. Ellen's gay marriage agenda isn't equality, the endgame is to eliminate marriage completely. It's the final agenda of all of the homo leadership.

BTW - this is a woman pictured:

There is a mental hospital somewhere looking for its escaped patient.

[Libertas]

I'll forgive Cruz for that. Sonsowey was right but it was a good way to hack the left's argument. Using their own icons and tactics against them can always work wonders (sadly, as we know all too well, playing the victim card works because people are naturally sympathetic to victims), as we saw here, though this bint wasn't exactly a formidable opponent. It was almost akin to a virus hacking a cell membrane through using just the right protein receptors.

The better take though is to just laugh her out of hand. Homosexuals constantly wrap themselves up in the past plights of blacks in this country, which is totally absurd. I honestly don't understand why more black people aren't infuriated at it. In fact, I'm sure many are, but the liberal media keeps it on the downlow.

In this case it really is, to use an absurd "social justice" phrase - claiming an oppression you never had. It scores points and status. Pathetic.

[Veloce]

(08-21-2015 07:15 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

The Donald would show them to be idiots like he did that mangina that called him out on anchor babies.

I'm looking forward to more of these SJW nutjobs trying their luck as it will display their idiocy for the world to see. Remember, the majority of Americans are NOT on twitter, tumblr, etc so are not exposed to these clowns daily.

What made me cringe in that video wasn't the blathering nonsense coming out of her mouth. Feminist SJWs are just white noise machines to me. The minute you start paying attention to the content of their speech, you've lost.

Listening to Cruz play into her stupid little debate is what made me cringe the most. Why bother having any discussion with her whatsoever? It's spineless pandering, plain and simple.

I would have loved to see the Don take on this smarmy cunt.

[CRR]

I always hate the 'ambush and antagonize' attempt at a debate, which is clearly what she is trying to do here.

And what did she expect from him? I'm fine with gay marriage, but clearly a lot of people disagree. Such is life. And not only do people have to agree, they have to endorse it.

But the truth is, I'm just sick of hearing about it. The LGBT community is a small percentage of the population, but seem to take up an extremely disproportionate amount of time in our media. Enough already.

[kaotic]

PS I have no idea who Ellen Page is btw.

Seriously, what has she been in?

[Paracelsus]

(08-23-2015 05:56 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

PS I have no idea who Ellen Page is btw.

Seriously, what has she been in?

Juno, as a single teen who couldn't keep her legs together.

X-Men as Kitty Pryde.

That's about it.

[kaotic]

(08-23-2015 06:18 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 05:56 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

PS I have no idea who Ellen Page is btw.

Seriously, what has she been in?

Juno, as a single teen who couldn't keep her legs together.

X-Men as Kitty Pryde.

That's about it.

Ah got it, so basically an irrelevant person attention whoring.

[CactusCat589]

She was in Inception too.

To add insult to injury, she replaced a hotter actress when she joined the X-Men franchise as Rogue.