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(08-27-2015 08:49 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

I don't say this publicly, for obvious reasons, but if it ever gets to the point that far right fascistic parties rise in Europe then that is the way things should be. Because things will have to have gotten so bad at that point that the only other alternative is slow dispossession and extinction.

It is already in the beginnings
Greece - golden morning
France - Front national
Netherlands - Gerd Wilders?
Germany - Pegida, Political: AFD positioned themselves right to the middle
UK - UKIP, Farrage
I don't here much from Spain or Italy at the moment, but both are more conservative than the other western countries anyway.

Each country deserves the regime it has, if the current parties neglect the national interests in favor of TTIP and fucked up EU policies history shall repeat itself.

[Geomann180]

(08-30-2015 01:50 PM)void Wrote:  

It is already in the beginnings
Greece - golden dawn

Wiki

Vergeben Sie mal meine Pedanterie, ich musste es tun.

G

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(08-30-2015 03:19 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

(08-30-2015 01:50 PM)void Wrote:  

It is already in the beginnings
Greece - golden dawn

Vergeben Sie mal meine Pedanterie, ich musste es tun.

G

Danke, ich war zu faul den richtigen Namen zu googlen.

[262]

Hopefully some polite counterpoints:

Is it unexpected for the elites to want to enrich themselves even further, sometimes regrettably at somewhat of an expense to their fellow man? Even us "normal" folks sometimes screw each other over if there's something in it for us. Not saying either is morally right, just asking what's practical.

Also, even when shit hits the fan, isn't it usually the truly elite who not only survive, but come out on top, while "normal" folks suffer? Isn't that why the elites line the pockets of every political party (even ones supposedly opposed to their very existence), essentially diversifying their investment, out of practicality?

Would it be better to figure out a way to become an elite, or at least get what you want from them?

[Eskhander]

(08-31-2015 12:39 AM)262 Wrote:  

Hopefully some polite counterpoints:

Is it unexpected for the elites to want to enrich themselves even further, sometimes regrettably at somewhat of an expense to their fellow man? Even us "normal" folks sometimes screw each other over if there's something in it for us. Not saying either is morally right, just asking what's practical.

Also, even when shit hits the fan, isn't it usually the truly elite who not only survive, but come out on top, while "normal" folks suffer? Isn't that why the elites line the pockets of every political party (even ones supposedly opposed to their very existence), essentially diversifying their investment, out of practicality?

Would it be better to figure out a way to become an elite, or at least get what you want from them?

Individually yes.

Personally, I suspect one's conscience would catch up to oneself. So why not use Elite wealth and influence to help the little people drag themselves from the mess made for them. Not all one's earnings of course. But using one's dark powers for good is always a nice story.

[RedPillUK]

(08-28-2015 07:05 AM)Bey Wrote:  

(08-19-2015 06:18 PM)CactusCat589 Wrote:  

All countries that accept Muslim immigrants pay for it. It's beyond insane that Slovakia is even being requested to take in Muslim refugees instead of the numerous neighboring Arab nations.

There are over a million refugees from Syria in Lebanon, a country smaller than Wales. And there are plenty more in Jordan and Turkey. The asylum seekers being accepted into European countries are but a few grains of sand (no pun intended) in the grand scheme of things.

Classic leftie arguing technique.

Try and shame that person's point of view by making a disapproving face.

They normally can't control this reflex, and are even seen to do it online.

Then the actual point you make is "The asylum seekers being accepted into European countries are but a few grains of sand (no pun intended) in the grand scheme of things."

Well look at the mess that has resulted from just letting a 'few' in .

Slovakia don't even have one mosque, I have respect for that country for that. While the rest of Europe have been busy building communities and mosques for muslims to show what lovely people they are, they have been wisely avoiding that, and are now saying they will only accept Christian refugees.
I remember Nigel Farage suggesting something similiar nearly a year ago, but unfortunately our government is too weak to be seen to only let in Christian refugees.

[Alexandrian]

They will be in for an unpleasant surprise. In Africa and the Middle East christians and muslims hardly differ from eachother. Same level of religiosity, same high testosterone levels, same pack-mentality. Overal: same Middle Eastern desert-mentality conservative people.

[Going strong]

An interesting case is that of this Ivory-Coastian illegal migrant (pretending to be a teen, yeah sure, dude looks 25 years old if a day), who arrived in Italy just 2 months ago, aboard the British ship Bulwark (along with 1.142 other illegal aliens from Africa), and has just savagely murdered 2 retired people, near Catania.



The daughter of the victims is openly blaming "the whole Italian government", but I personally would press charges against the British marine commander who captains the ship Bulwark, and brought this murderer to Europe. For aiding, criminal complicity...

"Il presunto assassino era uno dei 1.143 migranti sbarcati a Catania l’8 giugno scorso, con la nave della marina militare britannica Bulwark. I migranti erano stati salvati il giorno prima in otto distinti interventi al largo della Libia, sette dei quali compiuti dall’unità britannica e uno dalla nave della marina militare italiana Fasan. Con il maxisbarco arrivarono a Catania 979 uomini, 117 donne, otto delle quali incinte, e 47 minorenni"

By the way, Ivory Coast is absolutely not at war, so why would he claim a refugee status??

[Mike5055]

I'm telling you, the more illegal migrants Europe allows in, the more cases like this and cases like the train the other week will happen. Next time, US servicemen might not be there to help.

Hopefully Europe comes to their senses before it's too late. I'm just waiting for the day when Christmas markets can't be called Christmas markets because it's offensive to Muslims.

[Going strong]

(08-31-2015 10:10 PM)Mike5055 Wrote:  

I'm telling you, the more illegal migrants Europe allows in, the more cases like this and cases like the train the other week will happen. Next time, US servicemen might not be there to help.

Hopefully Europe comes to their senses before it's too late. I'm just waiting for the day when Christmas markets can't be called Christmas markets because it's offensive to Muslims.

Except the case I am referring to (this sub-Saharan migrant), has nothing to do with religion or Islam...

Anyway, about the case of the Thalys train:

do you know that another hero has emerged... one who first grabbed the Kalashnikov, before being shot at, and then saved by the wounded US soldier... Well, guess what, this other hero is a teacher, and is... American, too!!

So, in this train, out of 5 people who reacted with balls and honor (tackling the terrorist), 3 are American, one is British, and one (a young banker withholding his own identity) is French... it tells you something about Americans being less pussified than Europeans!

[Sonsowey]

Slovakia taking Christians?

They interested in about 12 million Christians, departing from North America soonish?

[Paracelsus]

(08-31-2015 10:21 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

Slovakia taking Christians?

They interested in about 12 million Christians, departing from North America soonish?

Catholic Slovakia. No bloody Proddies allowed

[Glaucon]

I just realized we should not be afraid even if western Europe will become non-white. Russia will have a field-day conquering whole Europe that is for sure, and it will become white again.

[Paracelsus]

(09-01-2015 01:13 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

I just realized we should not be afraid even if western Europe will become non-white. Russia will have a field-day conquering whole Europe that is for sure, and it will become white again.

Think so? The last time Russia had to fight Islamic militants on soil those militants owned didn't turn out so well.

[KorbenDallas]

You mean Chechnya? Turned out all right for the Russians. Afghanistan? That place will never be conquered.

[uptownguy]

Eventually Germany is going to accept more than their fair share of Muslims to show "leadership". The migrants will be grateful for it, but in 20 years their offspring will terrorize the country as they will have no recollection of Germany kindness and resent being a minority. The Sunni propagandists are producing a new line of YouTube videos already.

[Foolsgo1d]

(09-01-2015 02:02 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

You mean Chechnya? Turned out all right for the Russians. Afghanistan? That place will never be conquered.

Chechnya was pacified without the aid of the US to combat Russian aggression. Many of the aggressors were killed and their family line destroyed.

All the psychos either go to the Middle East to murder people there, commit terrorist acts around the globe (Russia, Boston) or get locked up.

[Teutatis]

Europe is being invaded and all I see in the news is how Europeans have the obligation to welcome in all these people and must do so, it makes me sick.

[TheWastelander]

(09-01-2015 01:13 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

I just realized we should not be afraid even if western Europe will become non-white. Russia will have a field-day conquering whole Europe that is for sure, and it will become white again.

I hope you're joking. European diversity (as in diversity of the native European peoples) is worth preserving.

[lskdfjldsf]

Western Europe will never become non-White, but I do see this as an interesting opportunity for the Russians to reassert some long lost influence in the region. If I were Putin, I would be dumping cargo planes full of German, British, and French newspaper articles from Finland to Romania, all day every day, Berlin airlift style. The people of Eastern Europe need to see the future awaiting them should they remain culturally/politically bound to the U.S., E.U., and Israel.

Europeans will never be eliminated as a people, but they are condemning themselves to decades - perhaps centuries - of violence and conflict. The question is how much bloodshed and violence will be necessary to restore order. I suspect the Russians would arm and equip right-wing groups in Europe should tensions escalate, under the condition they pledge future neutrality or fall under the Russian sphere of influence. Facing conventional militaries, bloodthirsty right-wing groups, and the support of other White nations (Russia, U.S.) it's hard to imagine a scenario where the Africans or Arabs would gain anything more than a temporary foothold in Southern Europe. Open animosity today (e.g. racism, vigilante groups, cutting off all financial aid) would be enough to chase most of them home.

Even looking at the worst possible scenario - the complete demographic displacement of Europeans - it's no assurance of doom or destruction. Whites have a long, proud tradition of creating world superpowers from ashes and nothingness. It's what we do. Perhaps American-style resettlement elsewhere is even worth considering, as Europe's natural resources and living space are rapidly dwindling.

Regardless where you stand on the immigration issue: head to Europe. See it and enjoy it, if only for a week or two, while there's still some of it left.

[WestIndianArchie]

Maybe I missed it, but why doesn't Europe just invade Syria? Then they could repatriate their guests.

WIA

[LEMONed IScream]

It's funny how I see americans so much more worried with the immigration issue than Europeans themselves. And with such radical fashion too. I presume Europe will turn into some sort of caliphate within the next 10 years because of these boat people.

The approach is different regarding each groups. Syrian refugees are looked at in a more ...let's say, compassionate light. While when it comes to large portion of economic migrants the idea is somewhat different. As I've stated previously in this thread, let us not be so naive to think every migrant/refugee will find a job, considering the current economic situation of Europe. Which doesn't mean there aren't quite a few bosses just dying to pay lower wages to a lot of these people too.

Either way, so many people are worried about these boat people and they overlook the fact that the large portion of immigrants in Europe which are more troublesome came here completely legally. And in larger numbers... This Mediterranean mayhem is another mediatic pseudo-catastrophe. The "damage" was done before.

[WalterBlack]

Russia can’t do shit in western Europe. It’s main leverage it has over the western European countries is the energy supply and the western Europeans could get their energy from other sources. Also, western Europe is protected by the US and the Russian economy is down the toilet.

I don’t think the US is very pro European Union by the way. They want Turkey to join the EU (from 2009):

Obama Urges EU to Accept Turkey, But Member Nations Remain Cool

Quote:

President Barack Obama arrived in Turkey late Sunday, after riling the European Union by urging its leaders to accept the large and mainly Muslim nation as a member.

Washington has long supported EU membership for Turkey, a prickly yet strategic U.S. ally. Mr. Obama said Sunday at an EU-U.S. summit in Prague that pushing forward with membership would "ensure we continue to anchor Turkey firmly in Europe."

I think Turkey joining the EU would be suicide. That's 75 million new people.

Regarding white Europeans teaming up to fight other races, here's my post from another thread

Quote:

British people don’t identify with Europeans very much. The average British born and raised person doesn’t consider of any race doesn’t consider himself a “European”. To then “Europe” is the land on the other side of the English channel. The British identify more with the Anglosphere countries than mainland Europe. Just because somebody has the same skin tone doesn’t necessarily mean that they will assimilate better than other races. Japanese-Americans are very integrated into mainstream US culture.

Europeans don’t see themselves as the same race either – they seem themselves, as French, Italian, German etc. Grouping all of these multiple ethnicities together and calling them “White” is an American thing. Italians were not considered “white” when they first started coming to the US in big numbers 100 years ago.

Just 20 years ago neighbours of the same colour were killing each other eastern Europe, like Yugoslavia with Serbians vs Croats vs Bosnians.

(09-01-2015 12:28 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Maybe I missed it, but why doesn't Europe just invade Syria? Then they could repatriate their guests.

WIA

The French had Syria after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in 1918 and gave it up during WW2. I think it’s better that western countries stay the fuck out the Middle East, it never ends well.

[captndonk]

(09-01-2015 12:28 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Maybe I missed it, but why doesn't Europe just invade Syria? Then they could repatriate their guests.

WIA

Because the whole reason for this is to wipe out the native peoples of Europe without killing them.

[TheWastelander]

Things are a bit crazy in Budapest right now, apparently.