[AneroidOcean]

(10-30-2015 08:09 PM)Zep Wrote:  

I just heard the tapes of Jared Fogels phone calls on CNN, sickening, and why I'm convinced Bill Cosby is guilty of drugging women against their wishes and then fucking the unconscious bodies.

The history of charismatic, respected men, abusing their power sexually, is a horrible and tired cliche.

Jared Fogel charismatic and respected? How can you even equate the two?

[Zep]

(10-30-2015 08:45 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(10-30-2015 08:09 PM)Zep Wrote:  

I just heard the tapes of Jared Fogels phone calls on CNN, sickening, and why I'm convinced Bill Cosby is guilty of drugging women against their wishes and then fucking the unconscious bodies.

The history of charismatic, respected men, abusing their power sexually, is a horrible and tired cliche.

Jared Fogel charismatic and respected? How can you even equate the two?

Fogel, like Cosby, was a respected and liked man. He was well-known person who gained respect for losing a shit-load of weight, so much so that a massive company called Subways hired him to be their SPOKESPERSON ! In other words, they wanted HIM to represent a multi-billion dollar business. That is a big deal. The person who is to represent a multi-billion dollar business better be very likeable and respectable to a lot of people.

He may not be your or my idea of charismatic and respected, but for business pros who needed the fate of their multi-billion dollar enterprise to be well represented, he did the job.

[RexImperator]

[AneroidOcean]

(10-30-2015 08:56 PM)Zep Wrote:  

Fogel, like Cosby, was a respected and liked man. He was well-known person who gained respect for losing a shit-load of weight, so much so that a massive company called Subways hired him to be their SPOKESPERSON ! In other words, they wanted HIM to represent a multi-billion dollar business. That is a big deal. The person who is to represent a multi-billion dollar business better be very likeable and respectable to a lot of people.

He may not be your or my idea of charismatic and respected, but for business pros who needed the fate of their multi-billion dollar enterprise to be well represented, he did the job.

You need to do your research.

One guy is Jared Fogel:

* Lost a lot of weight and because of an article his dorm-mate wrote (he would've been a nobody if not for his dorm-mate getting him noticed).
* Was Subway Spokesman for ~15 years.
* He also created a charity, but it was a scam:

Quote:

In August 2015, a USA Today article reported Jared Foundation had not issued any grants nor had it given funds for its stated purpose. The article further noted that, on average, the foundation spent $73,000 a year with the majority of that figure paying the salary of the foundation's executive director. More than one-quarter of the funds were unaccounted for per the foundation's tax records. Although the IRS still recognizes the non-profit foundation, it was dissolved in 2012 by the Secretary of State of Indiana. Daniel Borochoff, president of the non-profit charity watchdog group, CharityWatch, was quoted by USA Today as saying, "If Jared was really interested in helping children through his foundation, he could have gotten more money. As with a lot of celebrities, the charity appears to be more about image-enhancement than charitable deeds."

The other guy is Bill Cosby:

* Cosby created, produced, and hosted the animated comedy television series Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids, a show that ran from 1972 to 1985.

* After attending Temple University in the 1960s, he received his bachelor's degree there in 1971. In 1973 he received a master's degree from the University of Massachusetts Amherst, and in 1976 he earned his Doctor of Education degree, also from UMass.

* Cosby produced and starred in a television sitcom, The Cosby Show, which aired from 1984 to 1992 and was rated as the number one show in America for five years, 1984 through 1989

* Standup Career - He booked dates in cities such as Chicago, Las Vegas, San Francisco, Washington, D.C.. He received national exposure on NBC's The Tonight Show in the summer of 1963. This led to a recording contract with Warner Bros. Records, who, in 1964, released his debut LP Bill Cosby Is a Very Funny Fellow...Right!, the first of a series of comedy albums.

* Younger, well-established comics like Jerry Seinfeld have credited Cosby as an innovator both as a practitioner of the genre of standup comedy, but also as a person who paved the way for comics to break into sitcom television. Seinfeld said of Cosby: "He opened a door for all of us, for all of the networks to even consider that this was a way to create a character, was to take someone who can hold an audience just by being up there and telling their story. He created that. He created the whole idea of taking a quote-unquote 'comic' and developing a TV show just from a persona that you see onstage.

* Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame awarded in 1977.

I would say they are far from different and anyone who has seen a few subway commercials with Jared and also seen even one of Bill's standup routines or one of his many shows or films would easily be able to discern the large difference in charisma between the two.

[Dusty]

(10-30-2015 08:09 PM)Zep Wrote:  

I just heard the tapes of Jared Fogels phone calls on CNN, sickening, and why I'm convinced Bill Cosby is guilty of drugging women against their wishes and then fucking the unconscious bodies.

The history of charismatic, respected men, abusing their power sexually, is a horrible and tired cliche.

[Zep]

(10-31-2015 03:45 AM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

I would say they are far from different and anyone who has seen a few subway commercials with Jared and also seen even one of Bill's standup routines or one of his many shows or films would easily be able to discern the large difference in charisma between the two.

AneroidOcean, in my original post, I was not equating Fogels charismatic appeal to Bill Cosbys, I believe you know this, and you stated in a kind of off-handed manner "how can you compare the two", to which I followed up with a post clarifying Fogel was charismatic enough, just in case you were serious about an implied equation of charisma between the two on my point.

Your post up above listing Cosbys achievements doesn't negate my point. Jared Fogel is 'charismatic' enough for a multi-billion dollar corporation to hire as a spokesperson.

I don't need to do any research on Cosbys achievements by the way. I grew up with him all over the t.v. and radio. I know he's loved and respected, and why I sometimes feel sorry for the forum members who are pained over the accusations leveled against him. I will not be swayed by the forums popular opinion on this one. Common sense dictates ( to me at least) that where there's smoke, there's fire...and in Cosbys case, there's a hell of a lot of smoke, it's billowing out over there.

I think what probably irked you and others was my description of Cosby 'fucking the unconscious bodies'. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have written that. I was going to go in and edit it out only fifteen minutes after I had written it. But you had quoted my post by then.

Again, apologies for writing that inflammatory description of Cosby.

[rpg]

(10-30-2015 08:09 PM)Zep Wrote:  

I just heard the tapes of Jared Fogels phone calls on CNN, sickening, and why I'm convinced Bill Cosby is guilty of drugging women against their wishes and then fucking the unconscious bodies.

The history of charismatic, respected men, abusing their power sexually, is a horrible and tired cliche.

How can people so quickly forget how much drugs was consumed willingly in the 60's, 70's and 80's don't forget the 90's! Every hear of Karen Quinlan who popped ludes and got drunk and went into a permanent coma? Cosby partied like everybody else. Everybody except the Amish. I knew dozens of guys who supplied girlfriends with pills.
Cosby is innocent. If he was guilty he would have done time 30-40 years ago.

[JayR]

Just hit the wires, he got 15+ years.

I believe that's even more than the 12 the prosecutors were asking for.

[72 and sunny]

(07-07-2015 10:04 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

One must withhold judgment.

"Former Subway sandwich chain pitchman Jared Fogle on Thursday was sentenced to 15-1/2 years in federal prison after pleading guilty to child pornography and sex charges. Fogle agreed in court on Thursday to avoid pornography, get sexual disorder treatment and will be a registered sex offender. U.S. District Judge Tanya Walton Pratt also sentenced him to a lifetime of supervision...

Fogle cried during his statement before sentencing, saying his wife and children would never get over this.

"You gave your wife $7 million, she'll be okay," Pratt responded."

^^I can practically hear the giddiness in her voice for the job well done.




This is what "legislating from the bench" looks like.
Appointed in 2010 by Pres. Barrack.

[Captainstabbin]

(11-19-2015 02:18 PM)72 and sunny Wrote:  

^^I can practically hear the giddiness in her voice for the job well done.

This is what "legislating from the bench" looks like.
Appointed in 2010 by Pres. Barrack.

Avast doesn't like your pic host.

She has the most self-satisfied look I've seen since the man who appointed her.

[easternwomenrule]

A man is being punished for being a man!

Subway spokesman Jared Fogle is sentenced to 15 years in jail over child sex charges

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-ameri...5b0d68b484

I thought i would do some research on pedophila after the documentary 'Are All Men Pedophiles?,' poped up on Netflix early this year. I thought it would be another "man bashing" show but it explains with evidence why in the past it was acceptable where today it isnt. I HIGHLY recommend everyone to watch it cause explains a HUGE Feminist lie!

Here is what i found out about pedophila after research even tho in the west its a subject that is EXTREMELY taboo. In the East i find its more acceptable to talk about where young teens get married all the time and have kids in rural areas.

* a human being hits their sexual peak during the years of puberty (teen years). The 30s for women is a Feminist lie!
* the word "teenager" was created by the corporation around 1910 cause it was a different market. You were a child (before puberty) or an adult (having or had puberty). Thats how it always was before 1910.
* the age of consent was only increases cause of FEMINISTS from before puberty (10-12) to 16-18 (depends where you live) today.
* the corporations wanted teenagers to be in stay in school to 18 (started around 1910). Before, young teenagers would join the work force once they hit puberty (classed as an adult).
* women go through pubery 2 years earlier then men 10-12
* both sexs go through puberty earlier today by 1-2 years due to growth hormones inserted into food (west)
* 95% of child sex is consensual
* a child doesnt suffer from psychology problems if its consensual (FEMINIST lie just like rape culture)
* there was no child sex laws before 1978.
* children today are being exposed to sexual material/ads/TV 100x more then any other time in history
* the "VICTIM" mentality was pushed where we know woman are easily classed as "VICTIMS," even more children are even eaiser hence why the laws are so harsh today (10+ years jail or even life sentence if you are a man). Women usually get 6 months to 10 years jail if anything.
* there are 10x more female pedophiles compare to men.
* biogically men are attracted to women the most around 15-16 years old where after the age of 16, women put on fat! (puberty finishes).
* the word jailbait and many other words similar are in the top 100 search words for Google (turn adult filter off)
* biogically being gay isnt normal and was never accepted but its encourage mainstream today but if you are in love and have sex with a woman a week before her 18th birthday you go to jail for 10+ years...


I personal think if 2 people love each other no matter the age and its consensual, the government has no right to intervene. It the same with gays, let them do their shit behind close doors where i dont want to hear about it if its not hurting anybody! It just shouldn't be pumped into mainstream were only 1-3 % of the population is gay.

In the East they accept that men WILL ALWAYS be attracted to young women. It seems if you are 30 or 40 and with a young 20 year old girl its wrong in the West and you will be rediculed but in the East its fine.

[Vronsky]

(11-19-2015 05:36 PM)easternwomenrule Wrote:  

A man is being punished for being a man!

Subway spokesman Jared Fogle is sentenced to 15 years in jail over child sex charges

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-ameri...5b0d68b484

I thought i would do some research on pedophila after the documentary 'Are All Men Pedophiles?,' poped up on Netflix early this year. I thought it would be another "man bashing" show but it explains with evidence why in the past it was acceptable where today it isnt. I HIGHLY recommend everyone to watch it cause explains a HUGE Feminist lie!

Here is what i found out about pedophila after research even tho in the west its a subject that is EXTREMELY taboo. In the East i find its more acceptable to talk about where young teens get married all the time and have kids in rural areas.

* a human being hits their sexual peak during the years of puberty (teen years). The 30s for women is a Feminist lie!
* the word "teenager" was created by the corporation around 1910 cause it was a different market. You were a child (before puberty) or an adult (having or had puberty). Thats how it always was before 1910.
* the age of consent was only increases cause of FEMINISTS from before puberty (10-12) to 16-18 (depends where you live) today.
* the corporations wanted teenagers to be in stay in school to 18 (started around 1910). Before, young teenagers would join the work force once they hit puberty (classed as an adult).
* women go through pubery 2 years earlier then men 10-12
* both sexs go through puberty earlier today by 1-2 years due to growth hormones inserted into food (west)
* 95% of child sex is consensual
* a child doesnt suffer from psychology problems if its consensual (FEMINIST lie just like rape culture)
* there was no child sex laws before 1978.
* children today are being exposed to sexual material/ads/TV 100x more then any other time in history
* the "VICTIM" mentality was pushed where we know woman are easily classed as "VICTIMS," even more children are even eaiser hence why the laws are so harsh today (10+ years jail or even life sentence if you are a man). Women usually get 6 months to 10 years jail if anything.
* there are 10x more female pedophiles compare to men.
* biogically men are attracted to women the most around 15-16 years old where after the age of 16, women put on fat! (puberty finishes).
* the word jailbait and many other words similar are in the top 100 search words for Google (turn adult filter off)
* biogically being gay isnt normal and was never accepted but its encourage mainstream today but if you are in love and have sex with a woman a week before her 18th birthday you go to jail for 10+ years...


I personal think if 2 people love each other no matter the age and its consensual, the government has no right to intervene. It the same with gays, let them do their shit behind close doors where i dont want to hear about it if its not hurting anybody! It just shouldn't be pumped into mainstream were only 1-3 % of the population is gay.

In the East they accept that men are attracted to young women. It seems if you are 30 or 40 and with a young 20 year old girl its wrong in the West and you will be rediculed but in the East its fine.

Jesus Christ, you;re all over the map, talking about attraction to 18 years old and 10 year olds. Saying that 95% of child sex is consensual. What are your sources? How do you define a child? Which is it? Don't try to defend repugnant actions like this. Jared and others like him are sick fucks and fully deserve what they get.

[Repo]

I don't see how anyone who listened to the tapes can defend this guy. I agrer that a woman probably would have got a lighter sentence, but to me the issue is to punish women more for this, not guys less.

[infowarrior1]

(11-19-2015 06:36 PM)Vronsky Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 05:36 PM)easternwomenrule Wrote:  

A man is being punished for being a man!

Subway spokesman Jared Fogle is sentenced to 15 years in jail over child sex charges

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-ameri...5b0d68b484

I thought i would do some research on pedophila after the documentary 'Are All Men Pedophiles?,' poped up on Netflix early this year. I thought it would be another "man bashing" show but it explains with evidence why in the past it was acceptable where today it isnt. I HIGHLY recommend everyone to watch it cause explains a HUGE Feminist lie!

Here is what i found out about pedophila after research even tho in the west its a subject that is EXTREMELY taboo. In the East i find its more acceptable to talk about where young teens get married all the time and have kids in rural areas.

* a human being hits their sexual peak during the years of puberty (teen years). The 30s for women is a Feminist lie!
* the word "teenager" was created by the corporation around 1910 cause it was a different market. You were a child (before puberty) or an adult (having or had puberty). Thats how it always was before 1910.
* the age of consent was only increases cause of FEMINISTS from before puberty (10-12) to 16-18 (depends where you live) today.
* the corporations wanted teenagers to be in stay in school to 18 (started around 1910). Before, young teenagers would join the work force once they hit puberty (classed as an adult).
* women go through pubery 2 years earlier then men 10-12
* both sexs go through puberty earlier today by 1-2 years due to growth hormones inserted into food (west)
* 95% of child sex is consensual
* a child doesnt suffer from psychology problems if its consensual (FEMINIST lie just like rape culture)
* there was no child sex laws before 1978.
* children today are being exposed to sexual material/ads/TV 100x more then any other time in history
* the "VICTIM" mentality was pushed where we know woman are easily classed as "VICTIMS," even more children are even eaiser hence why the laws are so harsh today (10+ years jail or even life sentence if you are a man). Women usually get 6 months to 10 years jail if anything.
* there are 10x more female pedophiles compare to men.
* biogically men are attracted to women the most around 15-16 years old where after the age of 16, women put on fat! (puberty finishes).
* the word jailbait and many other words similar are in the top 100 search words for Google (turn adult filter off)
* biogically being gay isnt normal and was never accepted but its encourage mainstream today but if you are in love and have sex with a woman a week before her 18th birthday you go to jail for 10+ years...


I personal think if 2 people love each other no matter the age and its consensual, the government has no right to intervene. It the same with gays, let them do their shit behind close doors where i dont want to hear about it if its not hurting anybody! It just shouldn't be pumped into mainstream were only 1-3 % of the population is gay.

In the East they accept that men are attracted to young women. It seems if you are 30 or 40 and with a young 20 year old girl its wrong in the West and you will be rediculed but in the East its fine.

Jesus Christ, you;re all over the map, talking about attraction to 18 years old and 10 year olds. Saying that 95% of child sex is consensual. What are your sources? How do you define a child? Which is it? Don't try to defend repugnant actions like this. Jared and others like him are sick fucks and fully deserve what they get.

Yikes. Glad this guy got banned.

[Mr. Wolf]

delete

[72 and sunny]

(11-20-2015 10:59 AM)Mr. Wolf Wrote:  

Jared got less time than he deserved, but that Judge is a joke! Graduated Howard Univ. School of Law (current ranking: 110th best law school in the U.S.; no mention of her making Law Review), worked as a dreg associate for years before hanging out her shingle with some po-dunk family law practice, then a stint as a state court probate judge. Yet she is somehow deemed the best person to receive a lifetime appointment as an Article III federal judge. I wonder how that happened?

Affirmative Action has been in place to hire, promote and protect totally unqualified individuals based on their "race, creed, color, or national origin" since 1961.

A critic would say that once great, mighty nation has been on steady path to downright shit right about since.

[Jones]

Jared Fogle is gaining weight, not making friends in prison

A follow-up to how the (former) Subway guy is doing in prison. Stress-eating apparently, and not of the sandwich variety. He has a new (old?) favorite food group:

"He loves ‘cake day’ in the dining hall twice a week and he buys Honey Buns by the box, as well as other pastries, in the commissary on his weekly shopping day. He’s been known to eat an entire box of eight at one sitting.”

He has reportedly gained 30 pounds.

[Yatagan]

Quote:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.2566171

Convicted pedophile and ex-Subway pitchman Jared Fogle was pummeled in a vicious prison yard attack, according to a new report.

The disgraced sex offender suffered a swollen face, scratched neck and bloody nose at the hands of convicted armed robber Steven Nigg during the Jan. 29 beatdown at Colorado's Englewood FCI, a low-security prison in Littleton, according to TMZ.

[porscheguy]

I wonder how much he's paying to keep from getting raped?