[Roosh]

So this afternoon I'm flying from Kiev to Warsaw. I usually get an aisle seat but the plane was mostly empty so I got a window seat on the right side of plane right behind the wing.

The plane was flying pretty low so I was looking down at the small farm patterns on the ground. Then from right underneath shot out another plane going in a southeast direction, with smoke trails behind it. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, and actually thought I was hallucinating because it was so close, less than 500 feet away.

I blinked hard and looked again and the smoke trails were still there as I could see the plane fly away. I looked around to see if anyone else saw what I did, but no one was paying attention. The paths of the plane definitely intersected. I made a diagram:

   

The plane was white with no markings. It was smaller than a commercial jet but didn't look obviously military, and seemed too big to be a private jet. I'm not sure if I was in Polish or Ukrainian airspace.

I don't think this should have happened.

[Barron]

Why leave Ukraine for Poland?
That's what stands out as weird to me

[The Beast1]

ATC systems over there might not be up to snuff.

That was a close one Roosh!

[speakeasy]

The closest vertical separation allowed between planes is 1,000 ft. It may have been 1,000 ft away instead of 500. It's really hard to judge at these speeds. Even a thousand would look very close from the perspective of a passenger.

[Drazen]

I flew about a week or two after 9/11 and there were a few guys with turbans on. The flight was eerily empty and everyone was super quiet and nervous. I had a pen in my hand the entire 45 min flight (LAX to San Jose) ready to stab someone in the neck.

[Carlos100]

If your aircraft was ascending, ATC may have cleared the other aircraft to cross under at a specific assigned altitude that they thought would clear the minimum. If your plane didn't ascend at the expected rate, it's possible you might have busted the 1,000 foot separation minimum, but as speakeasy said, it's hard to judge.

Perhaps the plane belongs to a private charter company. Some of those companies which do a lot of business with government agencies don't mark their planes.

[Dusty]

[Amsterdamned]

i hate flying,it's the pussy waiting on the other side that makes the stress worth .

[Carlos100]

One other thing, ATC may have advised your aircraft that the other aircraft was crossing from the left under visual flight rules and your aircraft's crew may have replied that they had the other aircraft in sight and that they knew they had enough clearance to overfly it.

[Gopnik]

Sounds like another glitch in the system, Roosh http://www.rooshv.com/are-we-living-in-a...simulation

On a serious note though, I don't ever recall seeing another plane anywhere near while being in a flight myself, I would have probably freaked out a bit too. Doesn't sound normal at all.

[h3ltrsk3ltr]

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[Laner]

Same thing happened to me in Poland. No shit.

Flying from Malmo to Wroclaw, staring out the window and suddenly there is a plane beating a trail away from my window. It seemed close, very close, but when I showed my friend the chemtrails and where the plane was now he thought it was probably OK (he has done lots of pilot training and has his pilots license) and within acceptable range. But still......

I have also noticed the flying into Gatwick that there are an insane amount of planes up there.

[Sourcecode]

Human eye can't really judge height and distance that well.
Atc might be up to par, but I doubt the plane was that close. Planes are usually in communication with each other when they are within miles.

You just got lucky enough to see it this time

[Driesinator]

Wow that's crazy.

I would poop myself if i saw that.

Especially since i hate flying.

This was on the news recently

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel...s-off.html



Imagine being in the air after seeing that.

[Saladin]

I remember flying into Washington National and being shocked at how close we were flying to the Washington Monument. I didn't the airport was so close to the city center and I was starting to freak out internally and wondering if a terrorist had hijacked the plane.

[Hornet]

I prefer taking trains. They are inexpensive and you can sleep through the night. For a longer trip, you can spend the daylight hours catching up on work/reading, meeting friends/girls in your train car, or just looking out the window. Safe travels everyone.

[Chauncey]

I had a weird experience in the air today. I find my seat and next to me is this attractive brunette. We chat a little, I make some observations about people boarding around us, she laughs, we get comfortable in our seats, there is some playful touching going on.

Then the flight attendant comes over and tells her she needs to wear this placard around her neck indicating she is a minor. I ask her how minor she is. She says "Fourteen".

[Teedub]

(06-02-2015 06:54 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

I flew about a week or two after 9/11 and there were a few guys with turbans on. The flight was eerily empty and everyone was super quiet and nervous. I had a pen in my hand the entire 45 min flight (LAX to San Jose) ready to stab someone in the neck.

Turbans mean they're Sikh's mate, very much likely more distrusting of radical Islam than you are. Relevant article.

As for the original post, I've had something very similar occur. The plane was below, on the left hand side (though probably a few thousand feet as speakeasy said), and crossing left to right. Much smaller plane it appeared, going really quickly.

I was shocked at how close planes must need to be, but it doesn't surprise me really when you really think about all the flights happening all of the time.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Probably a chemtrail/geoengineering sprayer. Many commercial pilots know about them. They are military, but without military paints. Since the pilots are combat pilots, then they do shit that is forbidden to civilian planes.



Occasionally one sees them spraying below.

In Poland they usually stop spraying on Sundays and Holidays - when you watch the skies you see those days staying clear and sunny instead of the sprays that spread and create clouds on a normal day.

That stuff is old, but has been mainly started some 15 years ago. Some countries like Poland have begun doing it only a few years ago.



http://www.chemtrailplanet.com/Chemtrail_Research.htm

[Cheetah]

(06-03-2015 02:37 AM)Chauncey Wrote:  

I had a weird experience in the air today. I find my seat and next to me is this attractive brunette. We chat a little, I make some observations about people boarding around us, she laughs, we get comfortable in our seats, there is some playful touching going on.

Then the flight attendant comes over and tells her she needs to wear this placard around her neck indicating she is a minor. I ask her how minor she is. She says "Fourteen".

Not sure if serious.

[Cheetah]

Roosh got a stalker.

[Rutting Elephant]

How regularly do fighter escorts happen? Do they do them as drills? i've noticed them on at least one JFK-Frankfurt (or vice versa) flight and just shrugged.

[CleanSlate]

I have had two strange experiences when flying:

1. Rapid depressurization at cruise:

On a work trip, I'm flying over Arizona at 35,000 ft when we had sudden depressurization and the oxygen masks dropped from overhead. After fumbling around with the oxygen masks (from not paying attention to the safety instructions at the beginning of each flight!), I start getting dizzy while the plane immediately noses down into a rapid and bumpy descent. I think, "this is it" and consider sending a goodbye text to my family. But my phone is in my bag pocket under the seat and I can't get to it with all the turbulent jostling during the descent. Thankfully, we level off at about 10,000 feet and we could take off our oxygen masks and breathe normally again... and proceed to land at the nearest airport in 20 minutes, where we transfer to a different plane. When we touched down, we all burst out into boisterous applause and cheering. This happened about 7 years ago.

2. Aborted takeoff:

Last year, was on a plane beginning its takeoff when it suddenly aborted and they slammed the brakes HARD. Think going from 60 to zero in 3 seconds. In addition, the plane veers off the runway (onto a taxiway). I look out the window, and there was a huge mother of a Boeing 777 crossing the runway from other side. It seems there was miscommunication between the pilots and airport tower. Quick thinking by our pilots probably saved our lives.

I fly tons, so these near misses are few and far between. Hopefully I got them out of the way for the rest of my life.

[britchard]

(06-02-2015 06:38 PM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

Why leave Ukraine for Poland?
That's what stands out as weird to me

The pilot clearly hasn't read 'Bang Ukraine' yet

[BlurredSevens]

The real question here is...do you approach the blonde in first class during the flight, or wait until the plane has landed?