[The Lizard of Oz]

Veloce, I love the spirit of your post but I'm afraid that "bros before hoes" is one of those rules that are proverbially honored more in the breach than in the observance.

Many dudes will pay lip service to it, and even act it when it comes to girls they don't really care about. But give them that one girl who is "really cool" and "really gets it, I mean really gets it" and who also has what they're looking for sexually, whatever it really is (as opposed to whatever they claim it is) -- and, in my experience, the erstwhile bros go by the wayside faster than you can say "pussy whipped".

Of course it's also true that girls who can be considered "really cool" by an even remotely sane man are getting a bit harder to find in the West, and as a result guys are thrown more on the crutch of crying on the shoulder of their brothers in arms; but that doesn't make it any less of a crutch, to be thrown away in a heartbeat when the unicorn finally shows up.

The men who truly value male friendship and camaraderie for what they're worth -- and who do not let pussy run their lives one way or another -- are a very rare breed; the best breed, but very far from the norm. Though I would like to think there are more of them here on the forum than in other places.

[AnonymousBosch]

(04-30-2015 05:18 PM)Veloce Wrote:  

I wonder if his new bitch is reading this thread and looking over his shoulder while nagging him, "Well, are you done with that stupid fucking site full of angry bitter losers?"

In case this is the fact of the matter:

Remember McCoy, whenever you wonder what a woman wants, the answer is simply more.

The moment you give into a woman's demands is the moment you lose her forever, because:

- She'll never stop demanding more.

- She'll learn to despise your need to please her instead of standing your ground.

- She needs a man who doesn't entertain her bullshit and makes her feel sexually-submissive.

If you give in now, eventually she'll seek this submissive feeling from another man, and won't feel any guilt about cheating on you, because she "isn't happpppppy".

Lose her now, or lose her then. At least if it's now you'll have your self-respect and your nuts.

You can ignore the reality of the situation, but this is exactly how it has played out for every 'nice guy' I've known over the 44 years of my life: the wife takes any children involved and runs off with a biker, or a drug dealer, or an older, traditionally-masculine man, and the guy doesn't see it coming, I mean, she kept telling him she wanted a 'nice guy'.

Hell, I'm seeing this play out in three men I know at the moment:

- A bodybuilder with a hamplanet of a girlfriend who has gradually taken ever single outside interest away from him, and is now starting on his bodybuilding. Their relationship gets more embarrassing and negative to be exposed to by the day. Even though he's built like a tank, his niceness and acquiescence would already have her justifying her eventual affair in her head.

- A die-hard Liberal American friend whose wife of 20 years just ran off with a Poor Masculine Musician, leaving him with both kids, despite him doing everything she wanted, they voted correctly, went and rebuilt homes in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, and he was always so socially-concerned and caring for others. His arms were the size of my wrists, her new fling is jacked.

- A biker mate - tough looking, but, man, just a really nice guy, you know? His wife ran off with a drug dealer, leaving him with their 5-year-old daughter. The next woman he shacks up with turns out to be both obese and a prostitute, and recently-decided that she 'doesn't want to give up the work' because 'she needs the money', and 'doesn't feel any pleasure from it.' If he doesn't stand firm, the same shit will happen again. (I simply said "She could always get a job.")

There's no surving marriage I know out of the 12 guys I went to school with. Why? All of them were Nice.

An example of a strong marriage. At dinner the other night, the couple were talking about heath issues as they age:

Girly-girl wife: "If [Alpha Husband] was ever gone, I don't know how I'd gone on."

All the women offer sympathy.

Alpha Husband: (shrug) "... I'd have a new girlfriend a week later." *smirk*

Her: "Oh My god!" (lightly hits him)

The Nice Guys all looked absolutely-horrified, and later talked amongst themselves about what an arsehole he is and how she's so nice, (meaning still slim and pretty for her age, and feminine as hell without being so sexist as to actually say it), and that he doesn't deserve her. They fail to realise this sort of behaviour is why she absolutely adores him after 20 years of marriage, and why they have children and still have a regular, happy sex life. (When I told her that male semen has anti-depressant properties in unprotected vaginal sex, she giggled like she was being really naughty and said "I guess that's why life with [husband] is always so good").

So, McCoy, respecting yourself as a man is more important than the prettiest pussy in the world. Tell her no.

If the girl in question is reading: Be quiet, men are talking.

[Bear Hands]

^^^

I'd rep you again for that if I could.

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

(04-30-2015 11:31 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

I just think this forum and the mentality is toxic, mentally. Everything from the racism, group think, and honestly the fat shaming. I'm too young to be even be thinking about bullshit like this, honestly.

What's wrong with fat shaming?

[Gamers]

(04-30-2015 06:13 PM)Porfirio Rubirosa Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 11:31 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

I just think this forum and the mentality is toxic, mentally. Everything from the racism, group think, and honestly the fat shaming. I'm too young to be even be thinking about bullshit like this, honestly.

What's wrong with fat shaming?

I watched a TV show the other day where a doctor said that fat shaming doesn't work.

[Brian Shima]

Yes Lizard. Combine the natural urge to be with one woman plus the horriible Western dating scene. Bad news.

[kbell]

Why are there so many forum melt-downs? I've never seen this on other forums at this frequency.


This was terrible and he should just take some time off the forum. If you don't want to associate with us don't come back.

[birdie num num]

(04-30-2015 05:18 PM)Veloce Wrote:  

......
Sincerely,
Mysogynistic pig that can't get laid and lives in his mom's basement

You left out the part about also having a small penis.

[Dusty]

(04-30-2015 12:26 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

I just think this forum and the mentality is toxic, mentally. Everything from the racism, group think, and honestly the fat shaming.

McCoy's fat shaming comment is puzzling given that he started this thread:

(09-26-2014 10:18 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

My ipod died and I had to listen to the radio. Anyway, this song came up and I couldn't help but tear up (laughter). Have we really reached this point? I hope to god "fat" doesn't become the in thing.

Edit: I don't know whom this lizards mom is but she lied.

[AntiTrace]

I formally request a 20% warning.

I am currently at 20%, given my Emotional Alpha Thread, which I truly believe was a concept ahead of its own time.

If I can double my warning level in one day, my mom may finally accept my accomplishments in this world.

PS Fat people are beautiful/Feminists are smart/Race is everything/Height is everything/Money is everyting/Cops are awesome/Game doesnt work/Appetizers works/Fuck Tuth???

[el mechanico]

(04-30-2015 07:52 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

I formally request a 20% warning.

I am currently at 20%, given my Emotional Alpha Thread, which I truly believe was a concept ahead of its own time.

If I can double my warning level in one day, my mom my finally accept may accomplishments in this world.

PS Fat people are beautiful/Feminists are smart/Race is everything/Height is everything/Cops are awesome/Game doesnt work/Fuck Tuth???

How did I miss that thread?

Awesome!

[AntiTrace]

(04-30-2015 07:55 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 07:52 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

I formally request a 20% warning.

I am currently at 20%, given my Emotional Alpha Thread, which I truly believe was a concept ahead of its own time.

If I can double my warning level in one day, my mom my finally accept may accomplishments in this world.

PS Fat people are beautiful/Feminists are smart/Race is everything/Height is everything/Cops are awesome/Game doesnt work/Fuck Tuth???

How did I miss that thread?

Awesome!

It was closed. Genius is rarely recognized in its own lifetime.

[el mechanico]

(04-30-2015 07:56 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 07:55 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 07:52 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

I formally request a 20% warning.

I am currently at 20%, given my Emotional Alpha Thread, which I truly believe was a concept ahead of its own time.

If I can double my warning level in one day, my mom my finally accept may accomplishments in this world.

PS Fat people are beautiful/Feminists are smart/Race is everything/Height is everything/Cops are awesome/Game doesnt work/Fuck Tuth???

How did I miss that thread?

Awesome!

It was closed. Genius is rarely recognized in its own lifetime.

I love you.

[Dr. Howard]

(04-30-2015 04:59 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 04:46 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

I'm surprised nobody has pointed out how unlikely it is that he would post this roughly two months before this self-ban thread:

(03-01-2015 02:59 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

Okay so I rawdogged and cummed inside of an English girl on Friday (Krauser you mad?)

Just fucked my crush! Feeling very good at the moment

Had no idea what to do on a legit date and I just winged it. Was so nervous as soon as I stood up when she arrived I felt the coolness of my shirt against my skin (I was that sweaty)

From fucking his crush to wanting to reject the forum?

I posit that he's been dating his crush and has fallen head over high heels for her and that she's massively feminist and either of his own volition or from her significant pussy pressure he has chosen to denounce the forum despite it landing him his crush's sweet feministing pussy.

The timing is massively suspect. Check out the log of his posts here and note that he posted the above quote on 3/1/2015 and then he followed with a question in the I just had a threesome thread as follows (which may have been the post his girl found that got him in trouble):

(03-01-2015 03:15 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

(03-01-2015 03:01 PM)LAX Wrote:  

(03-01-2015 06:40 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

To be honest I got lucky again, I was in the right place at the right time.

Ha, this is not luck - this is the universe setting you up given the tremendous amount of work you've done to force your intent to become a reality. Luck is hard work meeting opportunity.

One of my buddies who is a natural and has been with over 500 chicks, a lot of them 8s and above has the mantra 'Anything once'. Point is you don't let opportunities pass because for every experience you 'aren't' proud of you'll have 5 experiences that you are stoked about

NICE WORK.

Where does your buddy live

.....

posting the above thread (roughly 2 AM this morning) he starts this one.

My conclusion:

The first one must be it! He knocked that girl up and just found out last night. Now he's feeling bad because he thinksTeam Rawdog encouraged him.

Any chance we can get a kickstarter rolling for his new kiddo?

Disagree, based on the research that has been posted so far this is what I think has happened.

1. McCoy has/had a girlfriend
2. This girlfriend, like any girlfriend worth her paranoid salt was 'spying' on him via the forum
3. McCoy got drunk and posted that he wanted to bang a DIFFERENT girl
4. The spying girlfriend saw said post, and got enraged
5. McCoy is back pedaling, he had to delete the post, and the girlfriend demanded he eject from the forum with proof.

Unfortunately, that will only result in ruin. The correct response is "yes thats my post, yes I want to fuck other girls, I have an insatiable need for pussy and like hot girls...if my balls are not drained on a regular basis I find it hard to control myself"

[Kabal]

(04-30-2015 07:52 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

I formally request a 20% warning.

I am currently at 20%, given my Emotional Alpha Thread, which I truly believe was a concept ahead of its own time.

If I can double my warning level in one day, my mom may finally accept may accomplishments in this world.

[AntiTrace]

(04-30-2015 07:57 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 07:56 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 07:55 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 07:52 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

I formally request a 20% warning.

I am currently at 20%, given my Emotional Alpha Thread, which I truly believe was a concept ahead of its own time.

If I can double my warning level in one day, my mom my finally accept may accomplishments in this world.

PS Fat people are beautiful/Feminists are smart/Race is everything/Height is everything/Cops are awesome/Game doesnt work/Fuck Tuth???

How did I miss that thread?

Awesome!

It was closed. Genius is rarely recognized in its own lifetime.

I love you.

[Oz.]

[Aliblahba]

Did McCoy ever actually meet up with other members?

[el mechanico]

(04-30-2015 07:58 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 04:59 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 04:46 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

I'm surprised nobody has pointed out how unlikely it is that he would post this roughly two months before this self-ban thread:

(03-01-2015 02:59 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

Okay so I rawdogged and cummed inside of an English girl on Friday (Krauser you mad?)

Just fucked my crush! Feeling very good at the moment

Had no idea what to do on a legit date and I just winged it. Was so nervous as soon as I stood up when she arrived I felt the coolness of my shirt against my skin (I was that sweaty)

From fucking his crush to wanting to reject the forum?

I posit that he's been dating his crush and has fallen head over high heels for her and that she's massively feminist and either of his own volition or from her significant pussy pressure he has chosen to denounce the forum despite it landing him his crush's sweet feministing pussy.

The timing is massively suspect. Check out the log of his posts here and note that he posted the above quote on 3/1/2015 and then he followed with a question in the I just had a threesome thread as follows (which may have been the post his girl found that got him in trouble):

(03-01-2015 03:15 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

(03-01-2015 03:01 PM)LAX Wrote:  

Ha, this is not luck - this is the universe setting you up given the tremendous amount of work you've done to force your intent to become a reality. Luck is hard work meeting opportunity.

One of my buddies who is a natural and has been with over 500 chicks, a lot of them 8s and above has the mantra 'Anything once'. Point is you don't let opportunities pass because for every experience you 'aren't' proud of you'll have 5 experiences that you are stoked about

NICE WORK.

Where does your buddy live

.....

posting the above thread (roughly 2 AM this morning) he starts this one.

My conclusion:

The first one must be it! He knocked that girl up and just found out last night. Now he's feeling bad because he thinksTeam Rawdog encouraged him.

Any chance we can get a kickstarter rolling for his new kiddo?

Disagree, based on the research that has been posted so far this is what I think has happened.

1. McCoy has/had a girlfriend
2. This girlfriend, like any girlfriend worth her paranoid salt was 'spying' on him via the forum
3. McCoy got drunk and posted that he wanted to bang a DIFFERENT girl
4. The spying girlfriend saw said post, and got enraged
5. McCoy is back pedaling, he had to delete the post, and the girlfriend demanded he eject from the forum with proof.

Unfortunately, that will only result in ruin. The correct response is "yes thats my post, yes I want to fuck other girls, I have an insatiable need for pussy and like hot girls...if my balls are not drained on a regular basis I find it hard to control myself"

McCoy is that kid who rented an apartment then came here cause his neighbor was making noise then moved back home on his first stint. If he doesn't need us nobody does. Look at his threads.

I'm pretty sure I have a proximity of where he's at so I'm going to spam his entire block with forum invites in the am.

[Quintus Curtius]

Reading through this thread has given me the comic relief I needed today.

Makes me wish we could re-open or re-start the "Master Manosphere Meltdown Thread." We need a place to keep track of all these.

I now think there's a vague "middle ground" between a hissy fit and an all-out meltdown. On the spectrum of emotional upheaval, it goes like this, from mildest to most severe:


1. Mild whining-------> 2. Angry Hissy Fit------> 3. Abortive Meltdown ----->4. Meltdown----------->5. Aggravated Meltdown


Here's the explanations:

1. Mild Whining: This is just griping, whining in an unspecified way, often directed at other members of at the universe in general.

2. Angry Hissy Fit: This is a bit more angry. A decent temper tantrum, in which specific other members will be singled out. Generalized complaints will also be fired off at the moderator and at the manosphere.

3. Abortive Meltdown: This is where L.M. McCoy's thread here falls. Like a failed suicide attempt, it often is more a cry for help than anything else. The member is tinkering with the idea of a true meltdown, but prefers to test the waters first. He wants reassurance and comfort from other members. You can see it as something like self-asphyxiation for pleasure, that has the thrill of danger, but carries with it the risk of accidental death.

4. Meltdown: This is the real thing. Genuine anger here, and lashing out at the universe and at other members in particular.

5. Aggravated Meltdown: Very rare, but there are recorded examples. An "aggravated meltdown", can be seen in the same way that "aggravated assault" is more serious than regular assault. An aggravated meltdown carries with it threats of harm against others.

[RickyGP]

(04-30-2015 06:02 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 05:18 PM)Veloce Wrote:  

I wonder if his new bitch is reading this thread and looking over his shoulder while nagging him, "Well, are you done with that stupid fucking site full of angry bitter losers?"

In case this is the fact of the matter:

Remember McCoy, whenever you wonder what a woman wants, the answer is simply more.

The moment you give into a woman's demands is the moment you lose her forever, because:

- She'll never stop demanding more.

- She'll learn to despise your need to please her instead of standing your ground.

- She needs a man who doesn't entertain her bullshit and makes her feel sexually-submissive.

If you give in now, eventually she'll seek this submissive feeling from another man, and won't feel any guilt about cheating on you, because she "isn't happpppppy".

Lose her now, or lose her then. At least if it's now you'll have your self-respect and your nuts.

You can ignore the reality of the situation, but this is exactly how it has played out for every 'nice guy' I've known over the 44 years of my life: the wife takes any children involved and runs off with a biker, or a drug dealer, or an older, traditionally-masculine man, and the guy doesn't see it coming, I mean, she kept telling him she wanted a 'nice guy'.

Hell, I'm seeing this play out in three men I know at the moment:

- A bodybuilder with a hamplanet of a girlfriend who has gradually taken ever single outside interest away from him, and is now starting on his bodybuilding. Their relationship gets more embarrassing and negative to be exposed to by the day. Even though he's built like a tank, his niceness and acquiescence would already have her justifying her eventual affair in her head.

- A die-hard Liberal American friend whose wife of 20 years just ran off with a Poor Masculine Musician, leaving him with both kids, despite him doing everything she wanted, they voted correctly, went and rebuilt homes in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, and he was always so socially-concerned and caring for others. His arms were the size of my wrists, her new fling is jacked.

- A biker mate - tough looking, but, man, just a really nice guy, you know? His wife ran off with a drug dealer, leaving him with their 5-year-old daughter. The next woman he shacks up with turns out to be both obese and a prostitute, and recently-decided that she 'doesn't want to give up the work' because 'she needs the money', and 'doesn't feel any pleasure from it.' If he doesn't stand firm, the same shit will happen again. (I simply said "She could always get a job.")

There's no surving marriage I know out of the 12 guys I went to school with. Why? All of them were Nice.

An example of a strong marriage. At dinner the other night, the couple were talking about heath issues as they age:

Girly-girl wife: "If [Alpha Husband] was ever gone, I don't know how I'd gone on."

All the women offer sympathy.

Alpha Husband: (shrug) "... I'd have a new girlfriend a week later." *smirk*

Her: "Oh My god!" (lightly hits him)

The Nice Guys all looked absolutely-horrified, and later talked amongst themselves about what an arsehole he is and how she's so nice, (meaning still slim and pretty for her age, and feminine as hell without being so sexist as to actually say it), and that he doesn't deserve her. They fail to realise this sort of behaviour is why she absolutely adores him after 20 years of marriage, and why they have children and still have a regular, happy sex life. (When I told her that male semen has anti-depressant properties in unprotected vaginal sex, she giggled like she was being really naughty and said "I guess that's why life with [husband] is always so good").

So, McCoy, respecting yourself as a man is more important than the prettiest pussy in the world. Tell her no.

If the girl in question is reading: Be quiet, men are talking.

[Nascimento]

The occasional drama that arises in this forum is truly astounding.

Today was a good day.

[Sourcecode]

I'm not sure what this thread is really about.
I just came to say, thanks for the shout out

[Comte De St. Germain]

(04-30-2015 08:07 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Did McCoy ever actually meet up with other members?

I actually have his number. He's also seen a picture of me and I've shown him pics of girls I've banged/girls in my area. Bastard didn't share his own picture even though he said he would so I'm a bit booty hurt.
Edit: I've also chatted him over the phone he sounded normal atleast.

[Merenguero]

(04-30-2015 08:24 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Reading through this thread has given me the comic relief I needed today.

Makes me wish we could re-open or re-start the "Master Manosphere Meltdown Thread." We need a place to keep track of all these.

I now think there's a vague "middle ground" between a hissy fit and an all-out meltdown. On the spectrum of emotional upheaval, it goes like this, from mildest to most severe:


1. Mild whining-------> 2. Angry Hissy Fit------> 3. Abortive Meltdown ----->4. Meltdown----------->5. Aggravated Meltdown


Here's the explanations:

1. Mild Whining: This is just griping, whining in an unspecified way, often directed at other members of at the universe in general.

2. Angry Hissy Fit: This is a bit more angry. A decent temper tantrum, in which specific other members will be singled out. Generalized complaints will also be fired off at the moderator and at the manosphere.

3. Abortive Meltdown: This is where L.M. McCoy's thread here falls. Like a failed suicide attempt, it often is more a cry for help than anything else. The member is tinkering with the idea of a true meltdown, but prefers to test the waters first. He wants reassurance and comfort from other members. You can see it as something like self-asphyxiation for pleasure, that has the thrill of danger, but carries with it the risk of accidental death.

4. Meltdown: This is the real thing. Genuine anger here, and lashing out at the universe and at other members in particular.

5. Aggravated Meltdown: Very rare, but there are recorded examples. An "aggravated meltdown", can be seen in the same way that "aggravated assault" is more serious than regular assault. An aggravated meltdown carries with it threats of harm against others.

What category would bigbootyluvr's meltdown back in 2011 fall under?