[dark_g]

(04-02-2016 02:37 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

*SPOILERS*




...I've looked at some photos of her online and she kind of has a strong jawline and doesn't look super special hot or anything but in the show when you see her move/talk, she displays some female swag (if only acting at least)...

In some shots she looks too masculine in the face(kinda tranny), in others she looks feminine. I'd take a pass, because there have to be no question in my mind.

[Avon Barksdale]

Punisher was the best thing about this season,

[El Chinito loco]

(04-04-2016 09:32 AM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

Punisher was the best thing about this season,

Pretty much the only reason to watch this show.

Daredevil is a lame hero. It's like the original creators threw a dart at a board to determine which handicap would turn out as a superhero and it happened to land on blindness.

It would have been better if he was mentally handicapped or something.

UNNNF NNUFF KINGPIN! UNNNGGG *drools* *deadlifts a car with retard strength*

[Dominance]

I don't mind Daredevil, but his whole no killing thing is dumb. It was interesting though to see him and Punisher on opposite extremes and realizing that somewhere in the middle would make more sense.

Also I don't really like the whole blind guy thing.

[freeuser]

*Spoilers*

Like others have stated, The Punisher was fucking awesome, I really liked the contrast between Castle´s method and Daredevil´s. Not killing your enemies seems a bit silly now. But Frank goes a bit too far sometimes.

I hated Karen and Elektra, they were both just incredible annoying. Do we really need to have at least one strong womenz character in every fucking thing now? It´s unbearable. House of cards, Star Wars...I´m getting so tired of this shit. It´s just not realistic. I didn´t watch Jessica Jones because of this reason and now they even manage to ruin a pretty manly series like Daredevil.

The scenes with Child Elektra, fighting against young men, twice as heavy as her, made my day. It just looked absolutely ridiculous.

[CynicalContrarian]

(04-25-2016 08:26 AM)freeuser Wrote:  

...The scenes with Child Elektra, fighting against young men, twice as heafvy as her, made my day. It just looked absolutely ridiculous.

Next time someone says how cool it is that the chicks are holding their own.
Point out to them, that it takes a highly fictionalised, comic book, super hero world to make such nonsense even remotely possible.

[MikeS]

We're getting what we asked for.
http://marvel.com/news/tv/26104/netflix_..._to_series

Quote:

NETFLIX ORDERS 'MARVEL'S THE PUNISHER' TO SERIES
Jon Bernthal reprises his role as Frank Castle!

This good deed goes unpunished!

Netflix has ordered a full first season of “Marvel’s The Punisher,” continuing their unprecedented collaboration with Marvel Television.

Jon Bernthal will reprise his role as Frank Castle, introduced to fans earlier this year in the second season of the Netflix original series “Marvel’s Daredevil,” with Steve Lightfoot (“Hannibal”) serving as Executive Producer and Showrunner in addition to writing the series’ first two episodes.

“We want to thank the fans who are clamoring for more of Jon’s stunning and powerful performance as Frank Castle from ‘Marvel’s Daredevil,'” said Executive Producer/Head of Marvel Television, Jeph Loeb, “Now combined with Showrunner Steve Lightfoot’s compelling writing, we’re thrilled to bring 'Marvel’s The Punisher' to Netflix.”

[Kish]

[quote='MikeS' pid='1289239' dateline='1461977548']
We're getting what we asked for.
http://marvel.com/news/tv/26104/netflix_..._to_series

Can't wait!

[MikeS]

(04-29-2016 07:58 PM)Kish Wrote:  

[quote='MikeS' pid='1289239' dateline='1461977548']
We're getting what we asked for.
http://marvel.com/news/tv/26104/netflix_..._to_series

Can't wait!

I'm a little concerned Netflix is juggling a few too many Marvel shows now (are the up to six or something now? With only Daredevil and Jessica Jones having aired yet), potentially meaning longer than usual waits between new shows and seasons of already aired ones.
Though I guess they are running separate crews on all of them, so perhaps there's no need for concern.

[dark_g]

The production job market is looking good on Netflix.

[MikeS]

The eight episodes of the new Defenders series is up on Netflix. I've only watched the first one and a half episodes and so far it's not really any more riveting than Iron Fist (who, obviously, is one of the four main characters alongside Daredevil, Luke Cage and Jessica Jones). Slooow initial individual character "drama" - I'm guessing perhaps for the benefit of those who didn't watch the character series, or perhaps because they need some padding like most blatantly in the Iron Fist series.

So far my ratings of the previous series/seasons. On a WB-HBish scale obviously.

Daredevil season 1 - 9
Daredevil season 2 - 7.5.
Luke Cage (which I finally decided to finish after initially having decided the entire show was too black for my taste) - 7.
Jessica Jones - 5.5 (although WB Krysten Ritter).
Iron Fist - 2 (stupidly naive hipster protagonist and by far the worst fight choreography in any of the shows).
Defenders - well... I'll know in a couple of days if I binge watch.
The upcoming Punisher - damn well better be a 9 after his phenomenal appearance in Daredevil season 2. But I'm sure they can screw it up with a bad director or poor script.

So to say that the "dark" Marvel shows from Netflix have been a mixed bag so far would be a huge understatement.

[MikeS]

I finished the eight episodes of The Defenders. Like the other Marvel series it was quite uneven and the main plot a little brain dead, but overall not as bland as the first couple of episodes, and Danny - the Iron Fist - was marginally more tolerable here, most of the time, than in his own series. And he got some better fight choreography to work with.
I give it a 6.83 - WB as a backup. Also would bang Elektra. Multiple times. WSNB (would still not bang) Karen who was thankfully only used sparingly in this series.

[King of Monkeys]

I think they should have straight up cut the first few episodes and skipped to all the characters/side-characters meeting in the first episode. The most fucked thing about the show so far is they keep cutting between five or six different plotlines going on because they want to be clever and have Luke, Jessica, etc. run into each other in a nuanced way. Instead, it's confusing and irritating to constantly switch back and forth between so many characters at once.

Then there's the thing where the show tries so hard to avoid being cheesy. Yes there are four superhuman people, one of their fists glows white because of chi, being a little goofy here and there isn't going to hurt. It was painful watching the scene where they all come together in the restaurant and then proceed to debate for the whole episode on whether or not to team-up. Just do it, you faggots. That's what goofy superheroes are made for.

[Speculation]

Some Spoilers below:

I thought Defenders was garbage compared to Daredevil.

My rating system goes like this:
Daredevil season 1 - 9
Daredevil season 2 - 7.5 rounded up to 8 because of The Punisher
Jessica Jones - 7
Luke Cage - 5
Iron Fist - 4
Defenders - 5.5

I can't believe the producers failed yet again to get the fight choreographers/writers from Daredevil season 1. They have so many options with character interactions and have finally learned to condense the series down to what should be a 'filler free' trim 8 episodes, but they botched it.

Problems:

-Garbage fight choreography filled with sloppy jump cuts. There is a reason that the hallway fight scene was the only one to be highlighted in the trailer. It is the best in this series, but doesn't come close to what Daredevil did consistently. Enjoy the violent breaking of your suspension of disbelief when 100 year old cane using Madame Gao chucks a 'Yoda' and fights the heroes with the power of horrible editing.

-Wildly fluctuating character powers - For example, Luke Cage takes a king hit to the chin from Danny's charged Iron Fist and shakes it off, but is knocked out by a kick to the face by a 100 pound Elektra. To be fair comic book writers scale character powers to fit the story too, but in a series plagued by problems you don't need anything more making you go 'wtf?'.

-Inane and predictable character interactions - Oh look, here's boozed up Jessica Jones being snarky again. Here's Danny throwing a tanty because his friends wisely want to prevent him from falling into the Hand's grasp. Here's Daredevil pining over Elektra's death and trying to redeem her from her evil by reminding her of their past love, even to the point of dying for no reason like a love sick puppy. Here's Luke Cage risking jail by trying to rescue young black kids from their own stupid life decisions.

-Poor dialogue and superfluous scenes - Even in a trimmed down 8 episode series they manage to stuff it with filler. The main characters have confusing forced personality conflicts before reluctantly coming together as a team, a process they go through at least a couple of times as their plans are frustrated. Then there's boring crap like when the second tier sidekick characters bullshit each other that keeping the home fires burning is just as important as fighting the Hand. I really didn't care at all when the black Night Nurse tells Danny's Asian katana wielding girlfriend that 'she's the foundation' of the team.

Most of this is because of just plain old bad writing. I hate to say it, but Joss Whedon, Lefty Extraordinaire, did a good job with the original Avengers, nailing the character interactions in a funny, believable and interesting way. With Defenders we instead get shitty lines, poorly delivered. 'Come on Iron Hide'

-Lack of pacing and story progression - I felt that there weren't really peaks and troughs, but a flat monotone story where the climax of the series was boring and a complete disappointment. They fight the same enemies throughout the series with no feeling of progression towards a final encounter with a foreshadowed Big Boss. If anything it goes backwards as Sigourney Weaver's character is offed and replaced by a less menacing (if that's possible) villain with poorly explained motivation that is reminiscent of the horrible Diamondback swap out in Luke Cage.

Conclusion:

Frankly this is a huge disappointment. Netflix's Marvel TV properties have been steadily declining in quality ever since Daredevil's debut. They had so much they could have done with the story and a rich pool of production talent to draw from, but they managed to turn out a dumpster fire that looks like it took the worst parts from all its forerunners, not the best.

My fingers are still crossed for The Punisher, but I don't like the odds that it will be any better. At least Thor Ragnarok is coming out soon.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Marvel Comics went full throttle SJW. The movie franchise is apart from it since they have utterly different teams, but my guess is that they want it go that way - so maybe they are testing the waters on TV for the social justice versions of the characters.

[Captainstabbin]

I don't mind girls with superpowers fighting men, but Colleen? The 100lb former Sand Snake is thrashing dudes. At one point she does a 3" jab with the hilt of her sword and the dude goes flying backward.

[CynicalContrarian]

(08-21-2017 01:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Marvel Comics went full throttle SJW. The movie franchise is apart from it since they have utterly different teams, but my guess is that they want it go that way - so maybe they are testing the waters on TV for the social justice versions of the characters.

You'd think they'd learn from the mistakes of the comic side of their business.
Yet if the current Avengers crew are done after the Infinity War movies & one of the next major characters is Captain Marvel with Brie Larson.
I won't be surprised if the MCU takes a SJW turn.
For the worse of course.

[Captainstabbin]

(08-21-2017 01:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Marvel Comics went full throttle SJW. The movie franchise is apart from it since they have utterly different teams, but my guess is that they want it go that way - so maybe they are testing the waters on TV for the social justice versions of the characters.

Luke actually told Danny he had white privilege...

[Remington]

I was pretty disappointed with The Defenders. The fight scenes were cool, but the plot was kind of shitty.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-21-2017 09:21 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

(08-21-2017 01:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Marvel Comics went full throttle SJW. The movie franchise is apart from it since they have utterly different teams, but my guess is that they want it go that way - so maybe they are testing the waters on TV for the social justice versions of the characters.

Luke actually told Danny he had white privilege...

Heven't watched it, but isn't this white boy character a billionaire heir? That is the only privilege that counts. If Luke had been the son of Magic Johnson, then it would be black privilege.

The whole concept of this privilege is of course bullshit.

[Darkwing Buck]

Defenders is hot garbage

I'm on episode 7 wondering if it will ever get good

[Enoch]

(08-21-2017 11:24 AM)Darkwing Buck Wrote:  

Defenders is hot garbage

I'm on episode 7 wondering if it will ever get good

Very disappointing series. I never watched Jessica Jones so I don't know what her "superpowers" are.

Defenders is a far cry from season 1 and 2 of daredevil, both of which were phenomenal. I didn't mind Iron Fist either but I have to chalk some of that up to my yellow fever and wanting to bang Coleen's brains out.

All the characters except daredevil seem extremely shallow.

[MikeS]

(08-21-2017 11:39 AM)Enoch Wrote:  

Very disappointing series. I never watched Jessica Jones so I don't know what her "superpowers" are...

Strong and bitchy.

[Captainstabbin]

(08-21-2017 11:39 AM)Enoch Wrote:  

(08-21-2017 11:24 AM)Darkwing Buck Wrote:  

Defenders is hot garbage

I'm on episode 7 wondering if it will ever get good

Very disappointing series. I never watched Jessica Jones so I don't know what her "superpowers" are.

Her powers make no sense. She's strong but not invulnerable. She's just as fragile as any other girl. So how does she twist off a doorknob without snapping her wrist or hold up and elevator without ripping her arm off?

Plus she can fly but they only showed that twice on her show and never on the Defenders.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-21-2017 01:40 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

(08-21-2017 11:39 AM)Enoch Wrote:  

(08-21-2017 11:24 AM)Darkwing Buck Wrote:  

Defenders is hot garbage

I'm on episode 7 wondering if it will ever get good

Very disappointing series. I never watched Jessica Jones so I don't know what her "superpowers" are.

Her powers make no sense. She's strong but not invulnerable. She's just as fragile as any other girl. So how does she twist off a doorknob without snapping her wrist or hold up and elevator without ripping her arm off?

Plus she can fly but they only showed that twice on her show and never on the Defenders.

I think they powered her down for budgetary reasons:

Quote:

Jessica Jones possesses superhuman strength; the parameters of her strength are unrevealed, but she can lift an automobile with no discernible effort. She possesses an enhanced level of resistance to physical injury, although she is unsure of whether or not she is bulletproof. She is also able to fly, although she is out of practice in doing so.

More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/universe/Jones,_Jessica#ixzz4qPtUn1n5

Her body is bullet resistant, she can fly - just does it badly and she can lift a car.

Her character was created in 2001 pre SJW times where women did not attempt to be copies of some hard-drinking male detective:



And seriously - most people if they had the ability to fly, then they would use it, because it is such an amazing thing to do.

The actress in the series is attractive, but they probably tell her to even gain some weight, because the Marvel shitheads want the heroines to be ugly - so as not to fall into "gender-stereotypes":



Also they made her bitchy, angry and "traumatized".