Quote: (04-16-2015 12:44 PM)8ball Wrote:
Quote: (04-16-2015 11:44 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:
Quote: (04-14-2015 05:50 PM)Roosh Wrote:
^^ I want to stay in MTL for two weeks to check it out. I do need a summer alternative to Europe, which I don't much for.
MTL is great not only for night game, but also for day game. You will kill it there.
[ NYC > Montreal ] in virtually all categories.
I have personally found NYC has both higher quantity and quality girls than Montreal. Not to mention, any language barrier is eliminated.
The only advantage to Montreal is that its cheap.
On the NYC MTL I don't want to argue a lot because I rate Manhattan...number 2 in North America for game in the summer.
I think it's important to distinguish Manhattan from the other boroughs for game as it's important to distinguish South Beach from mainland, it's just not the same things.
You say NYC beats Montreal on all categories, let's have a small breakdown for the summer months (June to August);
Climate: Pretty much the same, but 3 degrees more for NYC with a little bit more rain.
Logistics: Slight advantage for Manhatten, with 66 000 per square mile you can't go wrong, but MTL has 33 000 per square mile in the central districts, which is still very high.
This being said most girls in MTL live very close to where the bar or day game venue is.
In Manhattan you are sometimes facing a 30 min.+ cab ride to get to the place where the sex could occur if it's another borough.
Of course if you live in Manhattan it's great, yes MTL is cheaper, but who has a 120 K+ income to live in Manhattan not anyone, so this is a valid point.
Quality of girls: Slight advantage for MTL
Let's be frank NYC has hot girls everwhere, but there is a lot of typical white American girls, albeit there are way slimmer than elsewhere.
The variety people talk about NYC where is it? Black and some asians where is the other variety I'm sorry I don't see it when I go there.
In MTL you have big contigents of first generation immigrants and second generation from Romania, Moldavia, Russia,
I know there are russian girls in NYC, but I never see them.
Also a lot of girls in MTL from Venezuela, Argentinia, Colombia, Brazalian, I know there are some in NYC also, but I tend to see them less.
More european girls per capital in MTL as well.
Now when you add french canadians girls come on they are AAA grade.
People came here for seduction before game even was documented.
The genetic has stayed pure here Quebec girls will always beat American girls for beauty, this is a huge plus for MTL.
DTF factor of girls: TIE, I found of girls are DTF in both cities.
Langage: Advantage NYC, my first language is french obviously I have a home field advantage for the girls here.
THE SUMMER IN MONTREAL: Here is where it becomes interesting. Most Nordic societies have cold winters and mild summers. If you go to Scandinavia the summer lasts two months top and that summer is often disrupted by temps in the low 60's and rain and wind. Their actual summer is called midsummer and does not last more than a couple weeks. Then if it gets really hot they don't have AC and you can't sleep at night.
MTL on the other part as a real summer typical of the East coast of the US. As it is so snowy and bitterly cold in the winter (way more than scandinavia) people literally hibernate and wake up in the summer with a lot of energie and the famous joie de vivre. In this context, the effervesence of summer here, well documented in the mainstream tourist industry, trickles down to the DTF factor of girls in the summer.
Also, the summer is hot and long enough to have about 100 days of tropical weather feeling when the nights don't stop.
Sure there are big parties in Manhatten in the summer, once you paid 120$ USD to the doorman to get in an another 120$ USD to go to another venue and the first one sucked, because that's what I do maybe it's not the best, and the party goes on until 4 am, yes you can pick up for sure, but when the bar closes and you have a walk outside you do not feel the same joie de vivre atmosphere, Manhattan is very business, there's just something special with the summer in MTL and the pick ups you can do after 3AM of amazing.
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So all in all how can NYC be the evident choice?
For what it's worth NYC is considered in the community a top destination, but Montreal has mecca status for game.
If I look at pick up companies like RSD nations they all come here, Alex RSD has chosen a couple cities for this tour he comes here in his new concept, David D did his only private even outside of his conferences here, Cliff's list was one of the original seduction community guys etc.
I'm not trying to sell this city otherwise than to encourage people not to miss out on what had been great for me , but also for the other tons of players who came here on a budget or with some big cash.
We don't know if GManifesto was real or not, but boy did he nail it about this city with such true details as what you should order in a specific restaurant and the ambiance on such a night.
NYC is great, one of the top 10 if not 5 game cities in the world, but for that you need to be in Manhatten when I go there it's a 4K trip for 5 days who can pay this on a regular basis?