[The Beast1]

Honest question, is there a website out there that isn't blue pill, jezebel, etc that explains how to charm a guy? Something like what we have but a 180* swap.

In short a female game website that doesn't promote promiscuity.

A girl asked me how to be charming beyond cooking, cleaning, avoiding promiscuous behavior, and other wifely duties. I wasn't able to answer it well. The type of charm that "tugs at your heart strings" (her words).

Are there any good resources out there? Google is... lacking. I found one blog, but I need to read it over to see if it is something I agree with.

[game_ethic]

http://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/

[Isaac Jordan]

http://www.therulesrevisited.com/

[RIslander]

(03-08-2015 01:42 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  

http://www.therulesrevisited.com/

This blog is well written, articulate and based on rational thoughts and facts rather than emotions.

An excerpt:

Quote:

No, Your Intelligence Isn't the Problem
I get e-mails from girls all the time telling me that they are attractive, sweet, well-dressed, fun, etc. but can't seem to get the guys they want. They then point out that they are working on a PhD and conclude their question by asking whether or not their intelligence is intimidating men and therefore turning them off. I get similar questions about career success: "I am doing everything right but I am very highly paid - does that intimidate men?"

This is the equivalent of a guy pointing out that he is smart, tall, reasonably good-looking and successful in his job, but struggles to attract girls - then asking if it is because his muscles are too big. I mean, after all, maybe that's what is keeping the girls at bay, right?

If you are a rocket scientist, there is a chance that your academic prowess might be intimidating to an average guy, in the same way that a steroid-injected meat-head's muscles might be a a little much for the average girl. Yeah, sure, there is a risk that pouring too much of your energy into academics will turn guys off a bit, especially if it is done as a mask for your feelings of inadequacy with respect to other women. It's the same risk that a guy runs when he devotes the majority of his free time to getting jacked, especially when it is done as a mask for his feelings of inadequacy relative to other men. But the muscles themselves aren't the chief problem, and neither is your degree or your job.

It's way more likely the case that you are underestimating the importance of your weight, or that you cut your hair way too short, that your posture is horrible, that you talk like you want men to believe you're stupid, or that you don't realize how much your lack of boundaries is making men dismiss you. These are the kinds of things that actually turn men off, in the same way that low self-esteem and low intelligence are the kinds of things that actually turn women off (not coincidentally, these are common problems among meatheads).

Now which one of you guys is writing this stuff???

EDIT: Just realized a man is writing this blog... I thought it was a woman. That actually made me a little sad.

[Peregrine]

(03-08-2015 02:11 PM)RIslander Wrote:  

(03-08-2015 01:42 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  

http://www.therulesrevisited.com/

This blog is well written, articulate and based on rational thoughts and facts rather than emotions.

Agreed, it has a spot on my blogroll. I would recommend his most recent post, which was a review (part praise, part critique) of the manosphere.

[Foolsgo1d]

Girl game;

- Cook, clean, smells nice
- Good in bed. Open. Likes to please
- Doesn't nag
- Isn't a gutter slut out to jump the bone of every guy

How so many fail these simple things is the reason a lot of relationships fail. But I'm not saying men aren't at fault either.

[spokepoker]

(03-08-2015 02:15 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Girl game;

- Cook, clean, smells nice
- Good in bed. Open. Likes to please
- Doesn't nag
- Isn't a gutter slut out to jump the bone of every guy

How so many fail these simple things is the reason a lot of relationships fail. But I'm not saying men aren't at fault either.

- Supports the man in everything he does.

If a girl can get the 3 basic needs met (ego, stomach, dick), then it's just about refinement on keeping at his happiest. That means good cooking (stomach), being presentable(ego), being faithful(ego), keeping a clean house(ego), and sucking a good dick.
His happiness should make her happy.

[Teddykgb]

I remember someone posting on here awhile back a forum where strippers would congregate to share how they best extract as much money from customers as possible.

[The Beast1]

(03-08-2015 01:20 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  

http://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/

This is what I was looking for.

[LeightonBlackstock]

Girl Game:

- Show up

[Dusty]

I'm writing a guide for girl game:

Look good.

There, done.

[Akula]

Not so fast Dusty! David Chappelle has 4 simple rules for women to follow

[Espresso]

http://www.gettheguy.co.uk/

It's run by a guy called Matt Hussey from the UK. He's pretty big now so I don't know if the material he teaches is watered down for a mainstream audience, but he himself comes from a background of picking up girls/working out/etc. I think he used to work for PUA Training in London as an instructor a long time ago, and then saw a business opportunity to teach women instead and started his own business.

[Pride male]

http://www.blackgirlsareeasy.com

[Hannibal]

(03-08-2015 02:50 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

I'm writing a guide for girl game:

Look good.

There, done.

I'll add to the girl game guide.

Don't be a bitch.

There

[Dalaran1991]

(03-08-2015 02:50 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

I'm writing a guide for girl game:

Look good.

There, done.

Kidding aside, I actually think this is important.

Surgery aside, I doubt a girl who is a 5 can do anything to vastly improve her success. A fat girl can lose way and easily become a 7, but I know girls who are slim but just have terrible facial features and bone structures, no ass and no boobs. They are the nicest girls I know but I can't even make myself attracted to them.

Otherwise, your standard Americunt can easily become a 7-8 by losing weight, learn proper make up and feminine behavior.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-08-2015 02:11 PM)RIslander Wrote:  

(03-08-2015 01:42 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  

http://www.therulesrevisited.com/

This blog is well written, articulate and based on rational thoughts and facts rather than emotions.

This blog is created by one of those Purple Pill hucksters who take some Red Pill concepts and then twist and turn them to serve the feminine imperative. It's Red Pill covered in shit:

Really - weight is only 30% importance in women?





Most men can recognize a true teenage beauty clad in a potato sack. Sure - they can be tricked by makeup and dress if you are a fat hog up to a degree, but that won't help you when you are naked in bed and have a cellulite ridden sea before you. Men won't say it to your face, but you need to lose weight. Weight is 80% in importance or even more - most women would be a 6 if they lost weight, because they still have makeup to make them appear prettier than they are.

Also his sexual market value for women is funny as fuck:


http://www.therulesrevisited.com/2012/01...eness.html

That blog states some truths, but then vomits on it. It is not even softening the blow - it's straight out lying and that is why you see so many women frequenting his crappy site.

According to the SMV a woman at the age of 50 has the same external attractiveness as at the age of 18. I guess girlsdoporn has to stop casting 18 year olds and focus on the hot 50s, because that is where the real smut is.



And I am not alone with my opinion - there was a take-down of that crap sometime back on the forum.

Also I encourage anyone to go through Rational Male - considering a sheister like that note-worthy is indeed a sad state of affair. I looked into his stuff a while back and it appeared to contain some workable rules, but in the end it's even more destructive Purple Pill. I am not even sure he is a man, or maybe he is and is autistic, a male feminist or a simple money grubber who lies to his female clientele.

Female Game is easy and not so easy at the same time. The difficulty actually comes with the terrain - a girl would literally have to isolate herself from the propaganda out there. It's a bit more complicated than be slim, be good and be sexy, because there is so much out there pulling at them. The problem is of course that writing such a take-down could be done by men, but the women would not like it. Yes - if you reach 16-18 year olds, then some of them might take you up. For most others who start wondering why Mr. Right is not here yet - well it's almost too late for them or they won't be able to optimize their hypergamy anymore, they will be too bitter and jaded already. You essentially need a brutally honest site that only 18-22 might accept readily. For the rest it would be too "painful" - that's why you have sheisters like those above who put some sugar on that shit-sandwich.

[EuphoricWizard]

Possesing motherly/caring qualities
Having hobbies of her own so she isn't clingy or boring
Doesn't talk constant shit about other woman
No Social Media

Those things can make a woman stand out besides the general look good

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I just tweeted on that rulesrevisited-guy and wanted to see how some of the Red Pill greats react to it. Rollo responded quickly - I guess guys like that strike a nerve of his as well as mine:

   

But I understand when you think that the man is legit, because he puts out the right words, but then twists it more and more the deeper you go into his "wisdom".

[DrewP]

I would only give two pieces of advice to girls looking to land a quality guy:

1. Be thin. If you're not thin, eat less and exercise more until you are. If you don't have the will power to do this, then you don't care enough and you deserve whatever shitty results you get.

2. When you find a guy you're seriously interested in, SHOW HIM YOUR ENTHUSIASM. Men are nauseatingly sick of receiving terse 5-word responses that took about 0.0000002343 seconds of thought when trying to build rapport with a girl. I can't tell you how many "replies very selectively" girls I message on OKCupid who give me one thoughtless, conversation-killing reply after the next until I just give up. These aren't girls who respond just to be polite; they're the girls who ignore almost everyone who contacts them. Presumably I stand out to them in some positive way, yet they still refuse to show any hint of excitement or effort. Do this and he'll see courting you as a chore; best case you'll just end up on a mass text list for when he wants something to put his dick in. Put some thought into your interactions with him--write more than he does, show that you've listened to what he's told you, avoid canned small-talk phrases, show some interest in what he does, add some smiley faces here and there--and you will without a doubt be at the top of his list, even if you're not as pretty as some of the other vapid drones he's talking to. Every girl I've been seriously involved with has done this. It's really not that hard.

If any girls are reading this, you're welcome.

[Easy_C]

OP:

Are you kidding? The advice may be shitting, but literally every women's publication or website out there is full of attempts to teach them their game....how to dress, how to flirt, how to cook, etc.

It's not like with men.

[Peregrine]

Yes Zelcorpion, if you're a single 50 year old woman, you fucked up. But you have to work with what you have in your current state. His blog offers advice to girls on how to do that. And it's not the usual "you go girl!" advice. He tells girls to never deny their boyfriend/husband sex, regardless of whether they're in the mood. Full marks from me.

No doubt that his writing is a watered down material of the truth. But his blog is self improvement for women, not social commentary. Most people (myself occasionally included) can't or won't handle the truth. They're not going to take advice from someone who starts with "well, you fucked up". That's like a doctor beginning with "you're 95% likely to die from cancer and it's all your fault because you smoked". Not the best way to get someone to quit smoking.

Saying 50% of female attractiveness comes down to facial features and fitness is pretty damn honest already. I'm not going to quibble over percentage points. Again, if he said 80 to 90, readers would be turned off and he'd help less people.

I think he does a good thing, Rollo's criticism (whose writing has helped me a lot) notwithstanding.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-08-2015 05:53 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  

Yes Zelcorpion, if you're a single 50 year old woman, you fucked up. But you have to work with what you have in your current state. His blog offers advice on how to do that. And it's not the usual "you go girl!" advice.
...

Saying 50% of female attractiveness comes down to facial features and fitness is pretty damn honest already. I'm not going to quibble over percentage points. Again, if he said 80 to 90, readers would be turned off and he'd help less people.

I think he does a good thing, Rollo's criticism (whose writing has helped me a lot) notwithstanding.

Nah - every woman can do something to improve her chances - even if she is 35 or even 40. But again - she would not like the info.

Truth may seem hard, but I see no advantages in lies, because when a 22 year old reads his crap, then she might think that it is not as bad - you lead the sheep astray and I will never bow to that.

I am with Rollo on this one just as I don't like men who preach that most men should just accept being better Betas. The Alpha state is to be the goal for men - that does not mean that you are going to be hot and attractive, it means that your masculine Alpha frame will serve you better than to focus at being a better Beta.

The same holds true for women - his watered down advice does women only a marginal service. It's better than Jezebel's fuck-you-I-m-a-strong-independent--fat-woman-and-you-have-to-be-able-to-handle-me, but still steers women on the wrong path. Even a 40 year old broad encouraged by his blog decides to optimize her hypergamy as obviously her market value must not be so bad. No - it is bad and she should accept it and adjust her life accordingly.

No half-measures will do just as with the male Red Pill - only steps to get there.

[Peregrine]

What's better - suboptimal advice given that is received and leads to 20% improvement or optimal advice given that is rejected and leads to 0% improvement?

You can reject my dichotomy, but I honestly don't think most people (which includes some men in the manosphere as well) can handle the bare naked truth. It is ugly as fuck.

[runsonmagic]

Teaching women game requires the altruism to think about other women's challenges and needs and help them meet them.

Learning game for women requires the humility to admit you don't understand everything and have room to grow and become more attractive.

Women lack both these qualities.

The real money is in telling women what they want to hear.

Pick up any women's magazine and what will you see?

Don't even get me started on the red pill realities women would have to face in answering the question, "What do men want? What do they need?"