[Bacchus]

http://crockpotveggies.com/2015/02/09/au...faces.html

In an effort to avoid the obvious negatives of online dating, Justin Long programmed a tinder bot to sort through the uggos and weed out the disinterested.



The bot would match him with girls based on what it learned as his tastes from 60 swipes.

Quote:



Eigenface is a quick and easy algorithm to implement facial recognition without the use of complex software like OpenCV. Tinderbox first extracts faces using the Viola-Jones framework - specifically the jViolaJones implementation - and converts them to grayscale. Only pictures with single, identifiable faces are used (to filter out false positives). Then after each image is normalized, its pixels are converted into a matrix where they are then appended to a list of models. The models are then averaged into a single face used for future comparison (as noted in the workflow above). The bot requires you to make 60 yes/no choices before it has enough data to choose on your behalf. Then its on full auto-pilot.

The bot did more than just get matches. It also sent out messages to the girls, and passed it along to him only after the girls responded a few times.



Here are his messages:

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"{name} are you a fan of avocados?"
"So if I asked you to have a guacamole party with me you'd do it?",
"Do women love anything more than avocados?"

What about the results?

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I've gone on at least 10 dates with the help of the bot and I've shown my partners the bot in its entirety. One date literally didn't believe me and thought I was pulling her leg. Another person thought it was really cool and wanted the full tour. All were in agreement that it is not creepy, though some felt it was borderline. Kind of nice considering it's not something you'd come across everyday.

The code for the bot is also available:

https://github.com/crockpotveggies/tinderbox

[Foolsgo1d]

So Skynet begins.

[monster]

(02-15-2015 05:06 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  

https://github.com/crockpotveggies/tinderbox

Have you gotten it to run? If so, can you take us through getting it setup step-by-step?

[Oz.]

Everyone is making money out of the seemingly easiest things to code, I should really start using my coding abilities.

On another note if you have access to the code and know what you're doing you should probably delete the self messaging bot, it is unclear as to if it keeps messaging non stop

[kosko]

Even with a robot the man only gets 10 dates...

The technology is impressive but even a robot can't crack the pickyness and egos of women online.

I give him a props. This is the man's response to the escort/whore bots that have flooded tinder.

[Roosh]

Quote:

Even with a robot the man only gets 10 dates...

To the bot's credit, his openers are pretty bad.

[Tuthmosis]

(02-15-2015 06:10 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Even with a robot the man only gets 10 dates...

The technology is impressive but even a robot can't crack the pickyness and egos of women online.

Truth.

Not only that, we don't know how many of those "dates" resulted in so much a make-out, never mind a bang.

He would have been better off spending all that coding time looking for a pro photographer and re-toucher to take his pictures in exchange for some programming on his/her website. Then, do a few swipes while you're doing a few wipes™ (taking a shit), like the rest of us.

That, or turning off the iPhone and learning some real game.

   

[N°6]

Why do some men feel the need to confess to a woman what they did to get her out on a date?

However, I suspect his results will be better than those of the mathematician over on OKCupid whose well-above average intelligence got him married with a 5 from half-way round the world. This wasn't hailed as creepy because there was enough hypergamy to pack into the difference in SMVs.

[Private Man]

Using the back end of online dating technology to create more dating opportunities is a good hack.

But what happens when the creators of those hackers actually have to meet girls?!

Hilarity (and nookie) will not ensue.

Nerds can hack tech all they want, but the rubber won't be meeting the road (pussy).

I'd rather help men hack social skills through self improvement, not tech skills. Isn't that what game is all about?

[GeroMeroHero]

Boy, men can do anything.

[EuphoricWizard]

I respect it. This is something you'll never see a woman do. They'll probably start complaining about how it isn't genuine or creepy. A man saw something that was a huge timesink with few results (80/20 rule) and spent a few hours to make something that can last him months, years, or however long Tinder lasts. Now all he has to do is start his bot and comeback and the amount of time he put in will pale to the amount of results he can get out of it compared to men who do it the old fashioned way.

I don't have anything against online game either like some people here seem. The world is changing and this is where its heading, most relationships are started online these days. Having a huge online persona is part of game (status) now . I remember reading an article posted here about some feminist complaining how she was intimidated by a guy because he had over 10k followers on twitter.

Also these days just getting the yes from women on these sites is all you need. They're probably swiping right once per hundred men. If you get matched it tells you everything you need to know. People I know who actually get dates of Tinder say they pretty much drive there get sucked off and leave or its Netflix/wine and bang. It's all based on looks and not being a complete social retard is enough

[eclipse]

That settles it.

This combined with the hacks for OKC- means that in the future we would no longer need to put any effort into online game at all. Everyone should just pay $10 or so for the bot and just use it and then actually spend your energy on something productive.

Speaking of automation- why havent I heard of kids automating something that actually is very valuable, like making your CV for instance? Or doing chores?

[Quintus Curtius]

"Man creates sophisticated computer program to try to get laid."

Translation:

Man engages in elaborate intellectual acrobatics, and massive misallocation of his time and resources, to putz around with computer programs.

And like a rat blundering around blindly in a maze, he runs up against one wall after another, all in an effort to avoid putting in the brutal work doing the only thing that works on Tinder: playing the raw numbers game until you hit paydirt.

Ah...they never learn, do they?

And they will do anything to avoid confronting reality.

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[Deluge]

What a giant waste of time. Tinder has a daily limit on how many people you can swipe now, so the only thing this app is good for is if you're too lazy to even copy and paste messages. This guy has put in all this effort, for almost zero practical benefit. This screams of low social intelligence. Like Tuth said he would've been much better off spending it on getting amazing pictures. Or you know, actually talking to girls in person.

[POASTER]

Online dating is so dumb. I'm so much ahead of so many guys just because I only hit on girls in real life and don't do the online thing.

It's way easier to hook a girl in reality than online, pictures and profiles take away so much from a person's charisma. Plus I think it's fun to actually leave my house and interact like a human.

[Mage]

If the guy wrote this bot just to have fun or to prove that women are predictable then this is a win

If he thought this would be an efficient way to get pussy then fail.

[Kitsune]

(02-16-2015 01:53 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

"Man creates sophisticated computer program to try to get laid."

Translation:

Man engages in elaborate intellectual acrobatics, and massive misallocation of his time and resources, to putz around with computer programs.

And like a rat blundering around blindly in a maze, he runs up against one wall after another, all in an effort to avoid putting in the brutal work doing the only thing that works on Tinder: playing the raw numbers game until you hit paydirt.

Ah...they never learn, do they?

And they will do anything to avoid confronting reality.

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I think you're really overestimating the time and effort it would take to create this.

It's really simple in programming terms. I don't know the exact parameters of his program, but you could do this in an afternoon for fun.

Besides, there's a lot of hate on this thread generally for this guy's idea. I don't really get it. If he's a complete geek who never would have approached a girl, and he's upped his success rate by an infinite percent, then it's a success. If he's a player who just got a bot to do the grunt work, it's a success.

Saying, "You've got to just accept it's the raw numbers" is the anti-thesis of good game, imho. You should always be looking to optimize, and if this guy uses tech to do so, then that's great for him. You wouldn't tell a guy to stop hitting the gym to improve his looks unless he was using that specifically as an avoidance behaviour. If this guy is going on dates, then it isn't avoidance. All he is avoiding is swiping and making the mundane conversation you have to make that nobody really wants to do.

[Benoit]

(02-16-2015 06:15 AM)Kitsune Wrote:  

Saying, "You've got to just accept it's the raw numbers" is the anti-thesis of good game, imho. You should always be looking to optimize, and if this guy uses tech to do so, then that's great for him. You wouldn't tell a guy to stop hitting the gym to improve his looks unless he was using that specifically as an avoidance behaviour. If this guy is going on dates, then it isn't avoidance. All he is avoiding is swiping and making the mundane conversation you have to make that nobody really wants to do.

Since my Tinder system was mainly copy-paste messages anyway, this bot would have been a great time-saver. Replace his weak openers with my solid ones and away we go.

It would mean that I didn't have to get involved/invested until there's already been a few messages back and forth and I'd be starting with a warmer lead.

[Sonsowey]

Lots of hate, yes the guy should learn game, but all the same this seems useful for someone who uses tinder and wants to just make it automatic.

Anyone with more tech savvy want to help walk me through DLing this?

[Roosh]

Looks like Tinder is going to try to make money now:



http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/02/tinder-...YX0oo8:Jht

[Quintus Curtius]

(02-16-2015 06:15 AM)Kitsune Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 01:53 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

"Man creates sophisticated computer program to try to get laid."

Translation:

Man engages in elaborate intellectual acrobatics, and massive misallocation of his time and resources, to putz around with computer programs.

And like a rat blundering around blindly in a maze, he runs up against one wall after another, all in an effort to avoid putting in the brutal work doing the only thing that works on Tinder: playing the raw numbers game until you hit paydirt.

Ah...they never learn, do they?

And they will do anything to avoid confronting reality.

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I think you're really overestimating the time and effort it would take to create this.

It's really simple in programming terms. I don't know the exact parameters of his program, but you could do this in an afternoon for fun.

Besides, there's a lot of hate on this thread generally for this guy's idea. I don't really get it. If he's a complete geek who never would have approached a girl, and he's upped his success rate by an infinite percent, then it's a success. If he's a player who just got a bot to do the grunt work, it's a success.

Saying, "You've got to just accept it's the raw numbers" is the anti-thesis of good game, imho. You should always be looking to optimize, and if this guy uses tech to do so, then that's great for him. You wouldn't tell a guy to stop hitting the gym to improve his looks unless he was using that specifically as an avoidance behaviour. If this guy is going on dates, then it isn't avoidance. All he is avoiding is swiping and making the mundane conversation you have to make that nobody really wants to do.

No. There's no contradiction in saying Tinder is a numbers game, and believing in game principles. It all comes down to doing the swipes. Tinder is a numbers game. You've just got to swipe through tons of profiles before you hit paydirt. Is that "game denialism"? Of course not. You still need game to perfect your photo, your text game after she likes you, and do the first in-person meeting. And then you need game to close the deal.

It's the same thing with in-person approaches. It all comes down to building up a critical mass of volume before you start closing.

All I'm saying is that this guy would have better spent his time polishing his profile, his photo, his text game, and whatever else he needed to do. I don't see how his program here did him any significant benefit.

Just my view.

[Hades]

You don't need a tinder bot because you can just hit "like" on every profile and select the ones you actually want from the matches.

Trollish? Sure. But nobody is putting a gun to your head and making you fuck a land whale.

[ManVsMachine]

(02-16-2015 09:42 AM)Hades Wrote:  

You don't need a tinder bot because you can just hit "like" on every profile and select the ones you actually want from the matches.

Trollish? Sure. But nobody is putting a gun to your head and making you fuck a land whale.

I know, but I still find that an insane waste of time in screening for interest and actually coming up with "crafty" openers to get interested girls.


Strong first post I know but,

the benefit in my eyes is that, as a working man and web developer, Tinder is a huge waste of time. I relegate all of my tinder use to just playing the "swipe right" game on the toilet. I only talk to girls who send the first message, and those are very high probability of converting into dates. When I was in college I had time to play around with Tinder matches and try all sorts of openers, but with my life currently, the flake rate and non-response rate and absolute time expenditure is just too high to be a worthwhile endeavor.


On the developer side, Tinder's API is exposed, meaning Justin was able to create this Tinder script without even touching the app itself!
If you are interested, read more here: https://gist.github.com/rtt/10403467 --- the documentation is very helpful, even non developers can exploit this

And I think an RVF playa could implement this better - does anyone remember the game post (I believe it was heartiste, which I refuse to link) about the automated doctor system working "game" on women? Just by asking "how does that make you feel" it got a ton of women to open up with seemingly generic, open-ended questions. By initiating an array of good openers you could really exploit this system that Justin here has brought to our attention.


What I would do differently is stop the process after a certain number of replies - at that point, I would have the script alert me that its now my turn to take over and convert this to a number and a date.

[Seamus]

delete. Already posted upthread

[Cheetah]

If and when we get artificial intelligence this bot could really be made interesting. It's like a bot having perfect game making sure that the date is already DTF.