[Deluge]

I see Asian dudes with white girls in Australia every time I'm out. I went in the city centre this evening right after my last post in this thread, and must have noticed at least four Asian guy - white girl couples in the 20 minutes I was walking on the street, though none looked like FOB's as far as I could tell. And this was a pretty slow day, a Sunday evening with cold, windy weather, gloomy skies and a little rain, you'd usually see more. They don't date down here either, at least relative to how everyone else dates down (dating at your own level here is doing well). This is a pretty liberal hipster city though.

I know some Asian guys here (including 2 RVF members) who've never dated a girl who wasn't white... The most alpha Asian guys here are the gym rats and chain smoking wannabe gangster dudes (later often Vietnamese), they don't even look at girls who aren't Asian and hot. Then there's the SWPL/hipster/preppy Asian guys (not necessarily alpha but they're white inside and have social skills) who only date white girls, I think a lot are afraid to date Asian girls for fear of looking too FOB... Sometimes you see a working class tattooed Asian guy with a similar type of white girl but that's more rare. Then there's the remaining majority of Asian guys fighting for mediocre Asian girl scraps, they're better off targeting FOB's in my opinion. Those are the dynamics for the one's born here at least. You can usually tell which race an Asian guy dates pretty quickly, you don't meet any who date both.

[Bones707]

She's cute but not that impressed. I can find better in Latin American countries. However, I have seen Asian dudes here in the Bay Area date white girls who are in the same caliber as her in the looks department (not in feminity with of course as Anglo females rarely are very feminine). However, as Chinito Loco said, Asian men here are very cliquish and would be in the same social circles for their entire lives. Hence, they never develop their personalities or learn new things. The FOB Asians tend to be different as they tend to be WAY more dynamic.

However, the only thing the thread shows is how bad it is in the Anglosphere to acquire marriage quality females, which is something that we all should know by now and something I have known since high school. NEXT.

[aphelion]

That girl is fly. If you don't think she's a catch, I don't know what you're doing with your life.

[turkishcandy]

(02-01-2015 09:20 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

That girl is fly. If you don't think she's a catch, I don't know what you're doing with your life.

For forum members who are getting their nutsacks sucked by 2 girls right now, 1 ball per girl, she is not a catch, she is a meh.

[game_ethic]

(02-01-2015 08:59 AM)Bones707 Wrote:  

She's cute but not that impressed. I can find better in Latin American countries. However, I have seen Asian dudes here in the Bay Area date white girls who are in the same caliber as her in the looks department (not in feminity with of course as Anglo females rarely are very feminine). However, as Chinito Loco said, Asian men here are very cliquish and would be in the same social circles for their entire lives. Hence, they never develop their personalities or learn new things. The FOB Asians tend to be different as they tend to be WAY more dynamic.

However, the only thing the thread shows is how bad it is in the Anglosphere to acquire marriage quality females, which is something that we all should know by now and something I have known since high school. NEXT.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

   

   

   

   

"Little Dark "You gotta have Standards" Manifesto"

[CJ_W]

(02-01-2015 08:59 AM)Bones707 Wrote:  

She's cute but not that impressed. I can find better in Latin American countries.

Big Baller Troll?

Show us some pictures, videos of you with these "better women" bro.

[DaveR]

(02-01-2015 04:27 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

he met the girl while she was very very young - 16 or younger.

There is a large contingent of Ukrainian schoolgirls, especially in Kiev, who are obsessed with Japanese and Chinese culture. They take their cosplay very seriously, and a decent number of them continue the obsession into their early 20s. I haven't noticed the same phenomenon anywhere in Russia.

So if you're Asian and speak Mandarin or Japanese, I would recommend that demographic in Ukraine. To find them, use the following filter on http://www.vk.com :

Country: Ukraine
City: Kiev
Sex: Female (no homos)
Age: 17..21

University: КНЛУ (бывш. КГПИИЯ) // KNLU Kiev National Linguistic University
Faculty: Востоковедения // Oriental studies
Department: Языков и цивилизаций Дальнего Востока // Languages and civilisation of the Far East

-- or --

University: КНУ им. Т. Шевченко // Kiev National University in memory of Taras Shevchenko
Faculty: Институт филологии // Institute of Philology
Department: Китайской, корейской и японской филологии // Chinese, Korean, Japanese philology

[Cheetah]

(02-01-2015 04:27 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 11:39 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

We need more details here...

What does he do in the Ukraine? Did he start a business on his own, or is he studying and living off his parents' money?

I'm not really surprised by this story that much. Chinese are hustlers and are not afraid to go anywhere to make a buck or start a life. But what you don't really hear about is that these guys usually are backed by family money. Chinese save every fucking penny and pool their resources to help out their kids.

So, start-up capital helps. I'm not trying to detract from this guy's achievement, but I would be very surprised if he really landed in the Ukraine with only 20 rubles in his pocket. I'm not seeing that.

Anyway, good for him.

It's in the article really. I have seen it occasionally in EE - Chinese and Vietnamese guys making very very good money through import-export. They use their language skills and just being a local to import products from the big world-manufacturer China. They can even help local businessmen get products from China. As long as you are one of the early ones you can make a ton of money from that.

His family is likely middle-middle-class in China being able to send him to Ukraine to study, but not much else.

It seems like he just built this house:

Also - he met the girl while she was very very young - 16 or younger. Well-done - sometimes you got to catch them young, but it is amazing because she did not have plans to ride the carousel until 30.

He looks like a guy with Game, total Frame control and a strong desire to succeed, which he did.



Also that picture exemplifies everything what is right in some countries and all that is wrong in ours:

+ teenage wife (men are shamed for desiring even an 18yo - let alone a 16yo)
+ teenage wife who is happy to be a wife and mother at that age (unicorn - only sluts who forgot to put on a condom on her drug-dealer boyfriend in the West are teen-moms)
+ she cooks and bakes (that alone is noteworthy)
+ she cooks in her lingerie to please her man
+ despite her high level looks there is no princess complex visible

Is there any wonder why this picture shows us what we have lost in the West? Our grandfathers had the option of getting married to a sane, sexy, slim 16yo bride even while being 35.

Now this is what men can get if they are lucky:

The League dating app ex-carousel riders looking for Mr. Right at the ages of 30-40 with a delusion index of 10.000 and a combined notch-count approaching 4 digits - meanwhile considering themselves top-shelf-pussy. No - you harpies - that girl above is 10 times above your sexual market value for any man looking for a wife!

Why the fuck should men marry unless they get what their grandfathers had gotten? I am happy that it worked out for this bloke - in his case many guys around here might be tempted to even tie the knot.

[Bones707]

@all the members who are calling me out.

The only reason why people are making such a fuss about it is because it's an Asian dude who got her (making judgments on Anglo standards and those standards always have Asian dudes being a bunch of dorky and clueless men, which I don't see them that way if you have met Asians in Latin America and ones who weren't raised in the Anglosphere). If it was a white male with her, no fuss would have been made. And besides, I'm talking about standards of Latin America, not the Anglosphere as the Anglo standards for females is pitiful at best. Yes, she is cute (read my whole post, I didn't say she was ugly) but I have seen better in Latin America.

if I'm judging by Anglo standards, she's 10/10 but I never judge by Anglo standards (I judge by Latin American standards). Now if you want to make a fuss about it, go ahead. Only thing you will prove is my thesis that Anglo men themselves are responsible as well for the low quality of the women in the Anglosphere.

[vinman]

(02-01-2015 04:01 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 03:35 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 03:01 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 02:16 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ Let's be real this match up is not happening in America unless this dude is rich or is an at least micro-fame DJ.

Lol reasonably tall, no facial defects matched with teenage 8. Gtfo lol.

California is likely different but there's fobby ass Viet dudes pulling hot white chicks here in North Texas....

Yeah I was going to say the same thing. Its the same where I live. I see many Asian dudes with hot white girls all the time. A lot of Hispanic guys with white girls as well here in Illinois. Is not as uncommon as people think.

My cousin lives in Chicago and kills it with the girls there. It's really exotic factor as well as general unfamiliarity and non conformity. There aren't that many asians in illinois so.. exotic factor.

The L.A. asians are so cliquish that it alienates everyone outside that community.

An asian guy who is well dressed, well spoken, and isn't a thick glasses fob stereotype is like shock and awe to a particular niche who is open to interracial dating. They've never seen a dude like that before so the exotic factor kicks in.

I'm in Chicago, and there are a shit ton of Asians of all stripes. They are literally all over. But you are seeing more Asian dudes with CONFIDENCE and style. This stands out to me because 15 years ago the only place you saw them was in their own spots. When I worked the door in a salsa club 16 years back one Asian kid would show up, and when a girl finally danced with him he shined, and he never had to ask again. Bitches came to him when a hot song came on. Asians dudes are putting themselves out there a lot more. Not in large numbers, but in twos and fews.

I'm also seeing a lot more Asian dudes in Chicago with hot Black chicks too. Thin, cute, and stylish. Not in great numbers, but enough to make you notice a change. So the Asian playas are definitely stepping up more.

[Deluge]

From the comments:

Quote:

This story is also trending on Sina Weibo under the hashtag #学渣逆袭乌克兰女神# (Chinese Academic Failure Conquers Ukrainian Goddess) with over 1.5 million views.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-01-2015 10:51 AM)Bones707 Wrote:  

@all the members who are calling me out.

The only reason why people are making such a fuss about it is because it's an Asian dude who got her (making judgments on Anglo standards and those standards always have Asian dudes being a bunch of dorky and clueless men, which I don't see them that way if you have met Asians in Latin America and ones who weren't raised in the Anglosphere). If it was a white male with her, no fuss would have been made. And besides, I'm talking about standards of Latin America, not the Anglosphere as the Anglo standards for females is pitiful at best. Yes, she is cute (read my whole post, I didn't say she was ugly) but I have seen better in Latin America.

Relax - the fuss is made in China because he is a penniless bloke who scored a hard 7-8 17 year old. Not only did he make decent cash, but he married a hot girl. It's essentially the Ukrainian Dream for the average Chinese guy.

Also it's no biggie around here - even the less popular racially short Indian can get such a girl to commit to him. I've personally seen a 5'7 43yo Indian guy living in Budapest and scoring easy girls like that just via his Alpha state, Game and some wealth. We here know that it's possible.

Also - most here would likely give her 7-8 with some guys giving her a 9 or 6 respectively (though 6 is pushing it - because if she is a 6 to you, then what is a 9?). What gives her extra points in any male Red Pill denomination is her femininity, youth (17), willingness to marry and be a wife and mother at that age - she combines stark sexiness with innocence and that would make anyone of us give her a LTR 8-10. Because what use are superior looks of a coked-up deluded slut - never mind if it's in Argentina or in the US?

Besides - there should not be an Anglo- or South-American standard. That is moronic. There are plenty of beautiful American girls - just most are taking a hit due to obesity and masculine feminism.

[samsamsam]

(02-01-2015 06:03 AM)Swooper Wrote:  

Man, I'm happy for this guy. Basically in the video he talks about how he had no real job prospects, just landed piss-poor in Ukraine with no knowledge of the language and was enrolled in an arts school. He met this beautiful young girl and somehow got together with her. Then he just goes on about how they have a kid together and how he goes to pick her up after she's done with class. He's also started an import-export business apparently and he mentions how in Ukraine you don't have to drink to close business deals unlike in mainland China.

Wow I'm impressed by the translation. I just read an article that Michaelcorleone posted and it mirrors what you translated. The comments are pretty funny in a good way. Everyone is saying they are going to the Ukrainian embassy to get their visa. Also there are some other pics. And his body isn't super buff. Not meant to be a put down just that he isn't some gym rat. Everyone needs to get good at ping pong.

(02-01-2015 08:55 AM)MichaelCorleone Wrote:  

http://www.chinasmack.com/2014/stories/c...nvied.html

Quote:

Chinese Man’s Life with Beautiful Ukrainian Wife Envied
by Joe on Monday, December 8, 2014 375 comments comments

The attack of the academic failure: Chinese young man marries beautiful 18 year-old Ukrainian girl.

12 years ago, Mei Aicai only scored 320 points on the Gaokao examination [out of 750 points]. With this, he thought his academic career was over, and suddenly found himself at a loss for what to do. At that point, a friend dragged him along to go study abroad in Ukraine, and even though he thought Ukraine was in Africa at the time and couldn’t speak a single word of the language there, Mei Aicai still boarded the flight to this strange new country, never imagining that once he went, he would be there for 12 years…

Anxiety – he only knew one Russian phrase before leaving the country [going abroad]

For Mei Aicai, Ukraine was an unknown country, and initially thought this country was in Africa.

”Before I left the country, I went to Shijiazhuang and learned Russian for a month, but ultimately only learned “hello, I want water”. When I got on the plane, I was really nervous, not knowing what would be waiting for me in an unknown country,” Mei Aicai said.

Upon arriving in Ukraine, Mei Aicai took a preparatory course at the local university, and because he didn’t speak the language, he made a mockery of himself. “When I first arrived, I saw black bread in the store. I thought it was made with chocolate and bought a whole bunch, but when I took a bite, it was both bitter and hard, like a rock. In the end, I had to throw it all away,” Mei Aicai said.

Another time, Mei Aicai went to the hair salon for a haircut and had a lot of trouble describing the hairstyle he wanted to the barber. Eventually, he resorted to buying a pair of scissors and used a mirror to cut his own hair. Russian words are very long, and its grammar is even more complex, with many Ukrainians themselves not even fully understanding it. Mei Aicai couldn’t understand anything during class, as the professor had a deep accent, and to him it all sounded like someone selling lamb skewers.

A lonely life – tomatoes scrambled with egg was a luxury for him

To outsiders, Mei Aicai must have come from a rich household to be able to go abroad, but in reality his parents were average working class people. He chose to go to Ukraine because the cost of a university education was similar to China, and moreover visas were also relatively easy to obtain.

Although his family was not wealthy, Mei Aicai didn’t grow up in hardship either, but when he arrived in Ukraine, the first problem he had to solve was how to feed himself. During the winter in Ukraine, vegetables are very expensive, the price tags all listed prices in kilograms, and no matter what Mei Aicai looked at, he felt he couldn’t afford anything.

“Only after going out in the world did I slowly understand my parents’ hardships. For the first two years, the things I ate the most were potatoes and cabbage, as these two things are the cheapest in Ukraine. Only during Chinese New Year was I willing to buy two tomatoes. At the time, I thought tomato scrambled with egg was a luxurious meal.”

Although it was hard, Mei Aicai quickly became independent, and as someone who had never cooked before at home, he gradually learned how to even cook a few specialties. Mei Aicai said: “The first year abroad, what I felt most was loneliness and helplessness, and everyday I wanted to go [back] home. At that time, I did not have a phone or a computer, so I eagerly waited for the weekends when I could go to the internet cafe to chat with my family”.

Adjusting – playing ping pong opened a new world for him

After graduating from his 1 year preparatory course, Mei Aicai stupidly chose to attend the Karkov Academy of Fine Arts, and he became the only student in the school who didn’t know how to draw.

During the first semester at the academy, he spent most of his time playing video games and skipping class. Mei Aicai felt he didn’t have a goal in life, and wanted to make a change. So, everyday he went to the gymnasium to play ping pong and, as a result, he made many Ukrainian friends, and his Russian also gradually improved.

Most importantly, Mei Aicai also represented the academy and won 3rd place in the Karkov University Student Competition, a first in the academy’s 100 year-old history. After winning the prize, Mei Aicai’s life entered a new era. An athletic teacher regarded him greatly, placed his picture in the school halls, and more and more Ukrainian students and teachers came to him to play ping pong.

Though ping pong, Mei Aicai even found a girlfriend, and began to work hard at his major under her encouragement. Over the next few years, Mei Aicai did well in his core studies, his Russian greatly improved, and he consistently aced his athletics.

Happiness – in both love and career

On the Autohome BBS, Mei Aicai’s threads about his life in Ukraine have reached hundreds of thousands, even millions of views. People all relished in discussing his beautiful wife, and it was through his wife’s support that Mei Aicai started his own business.

When Ukrainian women get married, they take their husband’s name. Mei Aicai’s wife’s name is Mei Dasha and she is still attending high school. According to Ukrainian law, women can marry at the age of 17.

”She may be young but her views are very mature. At school, she is a good student with excellent grades and at home, she is a good wife, keeping our home neat and tidy, doing the laundry and cooking.” Talking about his wife, Mei Aicai has nothing but praise for her.

A happy home life left Mei Aicai with less to worry about, so he had more time to devote to his business. He quit his previous job as an animator and chose to start his own business. Currently, he is running a company engaged in the import/export of equipment and foodstuffs.

According to him, doing business in Ukraine requires little entertainment and socializing, where even taking a client out is unnecessary, so even now Mei Aicai does not drink or smoke, but Ukrainians have high standards when it comes to quality of work.

Because he is in the import/export business, Mei Aicai spends a lot of time each day communicating with people in China, but luckily he can stay at home and simply turn on his computer to work.

”Some people think I am very successful, but I feel my greatest happiness comes from my family. I come home everyday on time to eat with my wife, and afterward we go for a walk. I feel this kind of life is very happy, and next year we are planning to have our first baby,” Mei Aicai said.

Note: The above article was based on posts he made on a forum over the span of several years and does not reflect up-to-date information.

I think this the only pic that hasn't been posted here from the article.

[kosko]

^^^

Also you can see how serious her face is in the kitchen. This isn't her trying to play cute or pose for a camera, she is putting in real work and effort and you can see it on her face. She is putting in that work to nourish and please her man. The kitchen used to be a serious matter for women who went above and beyond to feed the people they love in their lives.

Now its been reduced to re-heating ready made meals in Styrofoam in the microwave and eating crackers from a box.

[DjembaDjemba]

Movement of people plus good game = lots of mixing. Nice broad, I'm surprised it's a big deal shit happens all the time with all types of ethnicities.

[Bones707]

(02-01-2015 11:25 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 10:51 AM)Bones707 Wrote:  

@all the members who are calling me out.

The only reason why people are making such a fuss about it is because it's an Asian dude who got her (making judgments on Anglo standards and those standards always have Asian dudes being a bunch of dorky and clueless men, which I don't see them that way if you have met Asians in Latin America and ones who weren't raised in the Anglosphere). If it was a white male with her, no fuss would have been made. And besides, I'm talking about standards of Latin America, not the Anglosphere as the Anglo standards for females is pitiful at best. Yes, she is cute (read my whole post, I didn't say she was ugly) but I have seen better in Latin America.

Relax - the fuss is made in China because he is a penniless bloke who scored a hard 7-8 17 year old. Not only did he make decent cash, but he married a hot girl. It's essentially the Ukrainian Dream for the average Chinese guy.

Also it's no biggie around here - even the less popular racially short Indian can get such a girl to commit to him. I've personally seen a 5'7 43yo Indian guy living in Budapest and scoring easy girls like that just via his Alpha state, Game and some wealth. We here know that it's possible.

Also - most here would likely give her 7-8 with some guys giving her a 9 or 6 respectively (though 6 is pushing it - because if she is a 6 to you, then what is a 9?). What gives her extra points in any male Red Pill denomination is her femininity, youth (17), willingness to marry and be a wife and mother at that age - she combines stark sexiness with innocence and that would make anyone of us give her a LTR 8-10. Because what use are superior looks of a coked-up deluded slut - never mind if it's in Argentina or in the US?

Besides - there should not be an Anglo- or South-American standard. That is moronic. There are plenty of beautiful American girls - just most are taking a hit due to obesity and masculine feminism.

Don't worry; I'm not freaking out. I'm only saying the truth and for me, I'll say when a spade is a spade even if it goes against popular opinion. I do agree with you, my rating for her is 7.5 to 8. I never rate her a 6 (I'm not a troll). I just don't agree in rating her a 10/10 like how a lot of the members are doing because I don't see her as that. Besides, there are still plenty of wife material girls in the world (just don't stay in the Anglosphere and closely related countries if you want to find them in the plenty).

And yes, there's still hot girls in the US but their attitudes grade them as non-LTR material for the most part and then comes them hitting the wall quickly or gaining weight like no tomorrow.

[Bones707]

(02-01-2015 11:37 AM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  

I'm surprised it's a big deal shit happens all the time with all types of ethnicities.

Welcome to the realm of seeing the world in Anglo eyes. Most people on the forum are from Anglo countries and seeing this type of ethnic mixture is a novelty. In Latin America, this has been happening for hundreds of years.

[L M McCoy]

That's what the average quality is like outside of the USA? Why the fuck am I still here

wait up guys, I'm good at ping pong too!

[Menace]

This girl is 8.5-9. If you do her makeup and proper photo shoot then put her on the cover of Vogue no one would ever think twice. She's easily model quality.

I don't know what a Latin American standard is. Different color hair? Bigger ass? Show us a picture of a girl who is NOT a model or known at all.

I'm happy for this dude but I certainly don't envy him. Are guys really jealous because he has a hot girl who cooks?

[L M McCoy]

(02-01-2015 01:14 PM)Menace Wrote:  

This girl is 8.5-9. If you do her makeup and proper photo shoot then put her on the cover of Vogue no one would ever think twice. She's easily model quality.

I don't know what a Latin American standard is. Different color hair? Bigger ass? Show us a picture of a girl who is NOT a model or known at all.

I'm happy for this dude but I certainly don't envy him. Are guys really jealous because he has a hot girl who cooks?

I think its more of a "he looks that and I look like this yet he is pulling that, so what the fuck am I doing with my life?"

I don't think its her attractiveness that evokes said haterade its the fact that we're wasting our lives in America. Are there bitches hotter than her? Yes. Have forum members pulled better looking than her? Yes. But when you factor in the fact that she is feminine, less likely to cheat, and can fucking cook plus she's impressed by fucking ping pong-mind=blown

Also, when we look at other men we view them as competition. Its only natural to look at a guy and say: Hold up, I know better looking guys or guys with higher social status and $$$ yet he is out pulling everyone. Shit, he's currently out pulling me as well which is encouraging me to work even harder

In the words of spider-man: "Something is very wrong here."

Also, fuck working out I'm just going to take ping pong classes

[Lizard King]

I like the guy. He seems cool.

Here is what I take from his story:

• Takes risks.
• Determined.
• Gets out of his comfort zones.
• Confident in his abilities, at same time as working to improve himself.
  

Good for him. He is the patriarch of his household, has a good future ahead of him, and happy with his life.

[bojangles]

I'm delighted for him, she's a solid 8, he's captured her before she's hitting her peak SMV and she's displaying that femininity that we all desire in women. Good on the guy.

[Quintus Curtius]

Once this story makes the rounds in the Chinese media, certain ideas are going to be planted in the minds of millions of enterprising, aggressive Asian men...

Add to that potent brew, the fact that there is a growing shortage of women in China and Korea...and, well, there you have it. Plus, the Chinese don't have the racial hangups that you find with Koreans and Japanese. They're ruthless, practical, and they'll steamroll right over you, if you give them the chance.

Incentive plus opportunity plus availability equals....conquest. This should be a wake-up call to Russian men.

Time to put down the vodka bottle, get your shit together, and learn how to compete. The days of being an idle drunkard are over.

The Ukrainians and Russians may just find themselves on the receiving end of a Second Mongol Invasion....

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[kosko]

(02-01-2015 12:04 PM)Bones707 Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 11:37 AM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  

I'm surprised it's a big deal shit happens all the time with all types of ethnicities.

Welcome to the realm of seeing the world in Anglo eyes. Most people on the forum are from Anglo countries and seeing this type of ethnic mixture is a novelty. In Latin America, this has been happening for hundreds of years.

So a British block blasting a seed into a Italian woman isn't mixing?

No way in Europe would a Frenchie and a Cypriot think they are the same people. Maybe only Americans view all white folks as one in the same but else where in the globe division an exist between many people who all have the same skin tone.

Even within in the Anglosphere there is a big difference in being British, and being something else like Welch or whatever. Even being 'British' is a distinct thing. It used to be classified as its own race at one point I believe they were so stern about it.

Even so with those divisions people do tend to fuck others quite frequently, especially with travel and conquests. The only way to ensure 100% a man stay and breed with his own is he stays local to the area of his home.