[Deluge]

(02-01-2015 02:37 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

In the U.S. if people saw this pair walking around everyone would think he has lots of $. Just how it is here.

Also here with his height and looks he's a low male 6 in looks. I have much better looking Asian friends than him.

I love how we're having a pointy elbows discussion about a dude here

[Easy E]

Here is a link to video about how they met:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODM5MDU1NDEy.html

Anyone know how to translate it from Chinese subtitles?

[El Chinito loco]

(02-01-2015 02:44 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 02:37 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

In the U.S. if people saw this pair walking around everyone would think he has lots of $. Just how it is here.

Also here with his height and looks he's a low male 6 in looks. I have much better looking Asian friends than him.

I love how we're having a pointy elbows discussion about a dude here

It's a bit gay but yes I have to agree with Travesty here that guy would have to work it hard in L.A.

There's a lot of good looking asians of both genders around.

[Travesty]

^ Hey with the competition I face here if I got over there with some Russian language I'd be wiping the fucking floor with the place.

I'm happy for him and that the UA is still that good for game.

^^ It's not gay it's being real. I know how to judge the competition if you guys don't care to that's your choice.

There's a reason L.A. and SoCal guys can go elsewhere and rack up you don't have every third or fourth guy looking like a surfer dream boy or buffed out MMA guy you are up against.

[GeroMeroHero]

(02-01-2015 02:44 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 02:37 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

In the U.S. if people saw this pair walking around everyone would think he has lots of $. Just how it is here.

Also here with his height and looks he's a low male 6 in looks. I have much better looking Asian friends than him.

I love how we're having a pointy elbows discussion about a dude here

Pointy elbows? Oh, is that where you critique minute flaws in a girl?

[WanderingSoul]

(02-01-2015 02:54 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ Hey with the competition I face here if I got over there with some Russian language I'd be wiping the fucking floor with the place.

I'm happy for him and that the UA is still that good for game.

^^ It's not gay it's being real. I know how to judge the competition if you guys don't care to that's your choice.

There's a reason L.A. and SoCal guys can go elsewhere and rack up you don't have every third or fourth guy looking like a surfer dream boy or buffed out MMA guy you are up against.

This ugly Asian guy is putting you into meltdown mode lol.

[Brosemite]

(02-01-2015 02:16 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ Let's be real this match up is not happening in America unless this dude is rich or is an at least micro-fame DJ.

Lol reasonably tall, no facial defects matched with teenage 8. Gtfo lol.

California is likely different but there's fobby ass Viet dudes pulling hot white chicks here in North Texas....

[Tex Pro]

(02-01-2015 02:51 AM)Easy E Wrote:  

Here is a link to video about how they met:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODM5MDU1NDEy.html

Anyone know how to translate it from Chinese subtitles?

Didn't understand what the fuck they were saying in the vid since it had both Chinese and Russian in it.

But this dude dresses well, works out, has a middle class job, and is into photography. My guess is he has some decent game as well.

Plus, this chick seems crazy about him, so he is doing something right.

Just more proof that dudes seriously need to get the fuck out of the Anglosphere and head to greener pastures.

[Travesty]

^ Brosemite

Dying to see a photo of a fobby Viet dude with a hot white TX chick. Please post.

Why am I still in SoCal? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Yes everyone I am doing something about it, 2 hours logged on Pimsleur Spanish 3 tonight. I want out of here for chicks.

[EuphoricWizard]

I admire the perseverance and work ethic of asian people. When I was in undergrad taking advanced Chem classes there were a few Asians who didn't speak a word of English and would come into class and listen to lectures and take notes on their Ipads. Somehow without understanding a single word being said they always managed to have the highest grades in class. Meanwhile in America we have women bitching about how a guy who made one of the most remarkable scientific accomplishments in the 21st century Tshirt had women more attractive then they are is sexist and oppressive and held them back from being Nobel Laureates so they had to drop out of STEM and become intersectional feminist critique majors.

[Travesty]

(02-01-2015 03:00 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 02:54 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ Hey with the competition I face here if I got over there with some Russian language I'd be wiping the fucking floor with the place.

I'm happy for him and that the UA is still that good for game.

^^ It's not gay it's being real. I know how to judge the competition if you guys don't care to that's your choice.

There's a reason L.A. and SoCal guys can go elsewhere and rack up you don't have every third or fourth guy looking like a surfer dream boy or buffed out MMA guy you are up against.

This ugly Asian guy is putting you into meltdown mode lol.

He is! He makes me realize what a raw deal I have even in one of the best U.S. cities for chicks. On my way to SA soon enough!

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

[MidWest]

(02-01-2015 03:01 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 02:16 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ Let's be real this match up is not happening in America unless this dude is rich or is an at least micro-fame DJ.

Lol reasonably tall, no facial defects matched with teenage 8. Gtfo lol.

California is likely different but there's fobby ass Viet dudes pulling hot white chicks here in North Texas....

Yeah I was going to say the same thing. Its the same where I live. I see many Asian dudes with hot white girls all the time. A lot of Hispanic guys with white girls as well here in Illinois. Is not as uncommon as people think.

[Travesty]

(02-01-2015 03:35 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 03:01 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 02:16 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ Let's be real this match up is not happening in America unless this dude is rich or is an at least micro-fame DJ.

Lol reasonably tall, no facial defects matched with teenage 8. Gtfo lol.

California is likely different but there's fobby ass Viet dudes pulling hot white chicks here in North Texas....

Yeah I was going to say the same thing. Its the same where I live. I see many Asian dudes with hot white girls all the time. A lot of Hispanic guys with white girls as well here in Illinois. Is not as uncommon as people think.

For the most part in SoCal there is still a lot of division. You most often see hot Asian chicks with Asian guys. With hot white chicks it is usually white guys, sometimes Latino guys, and rarely black or middle eastern, almost never Asian which is strange for how much diversity we have.

You do see the white male asian female pairing, but usually both aren't great looking or the white guy is better looking by a bit.

My view is most likely skewed. Which is why I need to to get out more and travel. SoCal is definitely a bubble into itself.

For instance in Orange County there were clubs and bars I would go to with my Asian friends that were 95%+ Asian inside. There were only a few rare bars where whites, latinos, and asian mixed in even numbers and they were usually very hipster in nature which isn't my scene.

[El Chinito loco]

(02-01-2015 03:01 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 02:16 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ Let's be real this match up is not happening in America unless this dude is rich or is an at least micro-fame DJ.

Lol reasonably tall, no facial defects matched with teenage 8. Gtfo lol.

California is likely different but there's fobby ass Viet dudes pulling hot white chicks here in North Texas....

Southern CA has weird social dynamics. The bay area is even worse.

You have really tight asian cliques everywhere and you also have a lot of guys rolling around with serious money or minor fame game. This means that if you're asian your choices for dating across asian social circles depends on how "in" you are with each ethnic group. Then you have lots of beta super chodes who grew up with the same girls and have been trying to court them for 20+ years who are the ultimate cockblock guardians.

The asian population is so big that it alienates a lot of other race girls (white) on the outside looking in. The other options are latina but you better be running tight game as well.

This is why so many PUA guys originated from CA and why so many decided to go to Vegas after awhile.

[El Chinito loco]

(02-01-2015 03:35 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 03:01 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 02:16 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ Let's be real this match up is not happening in America unless this dude is rich or is an at least micro-fame DJ.

Lol reasonably tall, no facial defects matched with teenage 8. Gtfo lol.

California is likely different but there's fobby ass Viet dudes pulling hot white chicks here in North Texas....

Yeah I was going to say the same thing. Its the same where I live. I see many Asian dudes with hot white girls all the time. A lot of Hispanic guys with white girls as well here in Illinois. Is not as uncommon as people think.

My cousin lives in Chicago and kills it with the girls there. It's really exotic factor as well as general unfamiliarity and non conformity. There aren't that many asians in illinois so.. exotic factor.

The L.A. asians are so cliquish that it alienates everyone outside that community.

An asian guy who is well dressed, well spoken, and isn't a thick glasses fob stereotype is like shock and awe to a particular niche who is open to interracial dating. They've never seen a dude like that before so the exotic factor kicks in.

[turkishcandy]

(02-01-2015 01:57 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

I don't want to get into a debate about how hot she is out of 10 (I think she's an 8 too for the record), she's pretty good looking but you can still find girls just as hot in Anglo countries at any higher end club or good university, although their relative value is a lot higher. The key difference is though, this Ukrainian girl just fucking radiates femininity to a level no Western girl can match. Even at at the top end of hot rich girls with lower notch counts, it doesn't come close.

[Easy E]

(02-01-2015 04:01 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 03:35 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 03:01 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 02:16 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ Let's be real this match up is not happening in America unless this dude is rich or is an at least micro-fame DJ.

Lol reasonably tall, no facial defects matched with teenage 8. Gtfo lol.

California is likely different but there's fobby ass Viet dudes pulling hot white chicks here in North Texas....

Yeah I was going to say the same thing. Its the same where I live. I see many Asian dudes with hot white girls all the time. A lot of Hispanic guys with white girls as well here in Illinois. Is not as uncommon as people think.

My cousin lives in Chicago and kills it with the girls there. It's really exotic factor as well as general unfamiliarity and non conformity. There aren't that many asians in illinois so.. exotic factor.

The L.A. asians are so cliquish that it alienates everyone outside that community.

An asian guy who is well dressed, well spoken, and isn't a thick glasses fob stereotype is like shock and awe to a particular niche who is open to interracial dating. They've never seen a dude like that before so the exotic factor kicks in.

I don't buy that it would be that easy to get a chick at this level for an average Asian dude in the USA. Not impossible, but not easy by any means. There is too much of a negative nerd stereotype in the USA in regards to Asians, and to be honest a lot of Chinese guys specifically have terrible game.

[Travesty]

^ I also don't think specifically it is hard for an Asian guy to get a white chick in the U.S. just to clear the record. I just think that like above what I consider a slightly above average guy of any race would have a tough time landing this chick. My previous posts in this thread would have been the exact same no matter the dude's race. She is just that hot.

This girl would get flooded with top tier guys after her around where I live.

[El Chinito loco]

(02-01-2015 04:09 AM)Easy E Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 04:01 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 03:35 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 03:01 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 02:16 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ Let's be real this match up is not happening in America unless this dude is rich or is an at least micro-fame DJ.

Lol reasonably tall, no facial defects matched with teenage 8. Gtfo lol.

California is likely different but there's fobby ass Viet dudes pulling hot white chicks here in North Texas....

Yeah I was going to say the same thing. Its the same where I live. I see many Asian dudes with hot white girls all the time. A lot of Hispanic guys with white girls as well here in Illinois. Is not as uncommon as people think.

My cousin lives in Chicago and kills it with the girls there. It's really exotic factor as well as general unfamiliarity and non conformity. There aren't that many asians in illinois so.. exotic factor.

The L.A. asians are so cliquish that it alienates everyone outside that community.

An asian guy who is well dressed, well spoken, and isn't a thick glasses fob stereotype is like shock and awe to a particular niche who is open to interracial dating. They've never seen a dude like that before so the exotic factor kicks in.

I don't buy that it would be that easy to get a chick at this level for an average Asian dude in the USA. Not impossible, but not easy by any means. There is too much of a negative nerd stereotype in the USA in regards to Asians, and to be honest a lot of Chinese guys specifically have terrible game.

For an average beta asian-american or fob? You're right there's no chance.

There are outliers in any situation..my cousin is a weird natural though. He's not a dork and has good people skills. He also has a hipster vibe despite not being hipster at all. He's not exceedingly handsome or anything but he does very well. I've met girls he's banged and they are usually very bad ass girls (7-8) range and i'm judging that on an international scale since I live abroad.

[Travesty]

^ Is he into any art form he shows off to chicks?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-31-2015 11:39 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

We need more details here...

What does he do in the Ukraine? Did he start a business on his own, or is he studying and living off his parents' money?

I'm not really surprised by this story that much. Chinese are hustlers and are not afraid to go anywhere to make a buck or start a life. But what you don't really hear about is that these guys usually are backed by family money. Chinese save every fucking penny and pool their resources to help out their kids.

So, start-up capital helps. I'm not trying to detract from this guy's achievement, but I would be very surprised if he really landed in the Ukraine with only 20 rubles in his pocket. I'm not seeing that.

Anyway, good for him.

It's in the article really. I have seen it occasionally in EE - Chinese and Vietnamese guys making very very good money through import-export. They use their language skills and just being a local to import products from the big world-manufacturer China. They can even help local businessmen get products from China. As long as you are one of the early ones you can make a ton of money from that.

His family is likely middle-middle-class in China being able to send him to Ukraine to study, but not much else.

It seems like he just built this house:

Also - he met the girl while she was very very young - 16 or younger. Well-done - sometimes you got to catch them young, but it is amazing because she did not have plans to ride the carousel until 30.

He looks like a guy with Game, total Frame control and a strong desire to succeed, which he did.



Also that picture exemplifies everything what is right in some countries and all that is wrong in ours:

+ teenage wife (men are shamed for desiring even an 18yo - let alone a 16yo)
+ teenage wife who is happy to be a wife and mother at that age (unicorn - only sluts who forgot to put on a condom on her drug-dealer boyfriend in the West are teen-moms)
+ she cooks and bakes (that alone is noteworthy)
+ she cooks in her lingerie to please her man
+ despite her high level looks there is no princess complex visible

Is there any wonder why this picture shows us what we have lost in the West? Our grandfathers had the option of getting married to a sane, sexy, slim 16yo bride even while being 35.

Now this is what men can get if they are lucky:

The League dating app ex-carousel riders looking for Mr. Right at the ages of 30-40 with a delusion index of 10.000 and a combined notch-count approaching 4 digits - meanwhile considering themselves top-shelf-pussy. No - you harpies - that girl above is 10 times above your sexual market value for any man looking for a wife!

Why the fuck should men marry unless they get what their grandfathers had gotten? I am happy that it worked out for this bloke - in his case many guys around here might be tempted to even tie the knot.

[Swooper]

Man, I'm happy for this guy. Basically in the video he talks about how he had no real job prospects, just landed piss-poor in Ukraine with no knowledge of the language and was enrolled in an arts school. He met this beautiful young girl and somehow got together with her. Then he just goes on about how they have a kid together and how he goes to pick her up after she's done with class. He's also started an import-export business apparently and he mentions how in Ukraine you don't have to drink to close business deals unlike in mainland China.

[philosophical_recovery]

Meanwhile, I'm a 6'1" man with a very good job, good social status, decent game, and the most feminine girl I met in the past year didn't like the idea of staying in shape to keep me around, so she just dumped me instead. Hahaha. Was a 6, but wasn't yet 20yrs old.

She could cook,a little...

Fuck.

I'm pretty sure I could make out like a bandit in the FSR, already know some Russian.

Will this last, though? Is feminism gonna spread worldwide and take down all the wife worthy woman and turn them all into alpha widows by the time they're 18 and also get men like this divorced? At least he's throwing the dice and rolled a hard 6. Over here, it's more like being in the psych ward and convincing the workers that you aren't crazy and should just walk out, and get to fuck their fat asses to boot.

[Que enspastic]

Dating takes place within a market place. In London I have a v attractive Romanian girl who tells me that I would easily clean up in Romania as the men are poor ugly, rude and alcoholic in general.

Meanwhile she knows if she went to Australia, particularly Melbourne where I'm from, she would get hit on by an abundance of 6"0+ dudes with good looks who are financially secure with likely interests in music, sports/surfing, travel, hipster lifestyle.

If either of us went to the other's home country we would be at a huge competitive advantage in the dating market but relatively disadvantaged if we had to stay put.

This Chinese guy is in a market where dudes are commonly short, ugly, wife-beating alcoholics with little to no prospects. He is a dude that has a good build, rarity and exoticness, a local social circle, his own business and the hardiness to stick it out in a difficult environment and come out on top. He isn't an alcoholic and doesn't look like a wife beater.

Compared to his Ukrainian male counterparts he is definitely a catch. He's not being compared to the apex guys of SoCal or Australia's big cities, just as we don't set our standards at Ukrainian beauty level if we live in places where beautiful women are in v short supply.