[el mechanico]

(03-24-2015 01:18 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

How is it that beta simps have $20k a month to drop on bitches that don't put out

I don't know any so there can't be too many of them. Most guys I know with that kind of money are either married or swimming in ass but again this is Florida so that same 20k hoe is probably 200 dollars.

[magicone]

And we already know how an expensive whore that made 1 million dollars by prostituting herself
and doing extreme things looks like:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-45437-...#pid986081

Interesting that is not extremely hot, nor cute, nor she has even any impressive physical qualities

[lavidaloca]

Most guys on seekingarrangement who are actually funding someone are expensing them as employees / contractors. That $2000 is often more like $1100 after tax to them. It's all relative. I know of guys who do just that. Not a bad deal for an older guy.

[magicone]

(03-24-2015 01:34 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

Most guys on seekingarrangement who are actually funding someone are expensing them as employees / contractors. That $2000 is often more like $1100 after tax to them.

They are hiring the prostitutes as "personal assistants" ?

That is a terrible deal, paying for prostitutes is just very omega and very humiliating actually.

[Gringuito]

(03-24-2015 01:24 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 01:18 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

How is it that beta simps have $20k a month to drop on bitches that don't put out

I don't know any so there can't be too many of them. Most guys I know with that kind of money are either married or swimming in ass but again this is Florida so that same 20k hoe is probably 200 dollars.

That is what she gets from all of the simps combined. Each one could afford $200 and she only needs 100 idiots to make her month.

There was some game what wanted to raise money via crowdfunding. They ended up with something like $80M just in crowdfunding. The game isn't released and if they're smart it will never be released except to meet their contractual obligation. They've made more in crowdfunding than in profit from a shipping product. Don't underestimate the power of lots of beta simps. Remember the 80/20 rule, the 80 is lots of thirsty guys.

[Gringuito]

(03-24-2015 01:36 PM)magicone Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 01:34 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

Most guys on seekingarrangement who are actually funding someone are expensing them as employees / contractors. That $2000 is often more like $1100 after tax to them.

They are hiring the prostitutes as "personal assistants" ?

That is a terrible deal, paying for prostitutes is just very omega and very humiliating actually.

I have no dog in this fight but I think paying a prostitute and NOT having sex with her like the guys in the OP are worse.

[SlickyBoy]

(01-31-2015 09:22 AM)magicone Wrote:  

Oh, but those jobs are sucky. You have to show up at inconvenient times and actually work. Sugar Babies get paid to look nice and have sex, and there aren’t a whole lot of jobs out there with those requirements.

Oh, wait. Yes there are. It’s called prostitution.

If there's one thing the SD dating scene will teach the unwitting gent really fast is that women will drop everything to be with you when they really want to. Kind of puts the regular dating scene in a whole new light - all the bullshit venue changes, schedule conflicts, emergencies, etc. really are for the most part utter fabrications.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-24-2015 01:36 PM)magicone Wrote:  

They are hiring the prostitutes as "personal assistants" ?

That is a terrible deal, paying for prostitutes is just very omega and very humiliating actually.

Nah - in EE and FSU it's commonly known to hire assistants and secretaries "with benefits". You just get a girl that works as your assistant and make it clear that she gets paid more for the occasional blowjobs and sex.

I have even read such ads by girls themselves - they looking for such arrangements actively. In Russia it's even expected with some jobs - they have a term they add on the job ad and everyone knows what else is expected of you.

The girls actually like those kind of arrangements - you get paid way more doing a normal job and often after your shelf-life is done you might have a real job left, all taxes paid, health insurance, pension plan - and you don't feel like being a whore that way. Besides - women find their bosses generally attractive, so the power dynamic is actually different than if it was just a client that came to her apartment. The very same guy she would feel disgust for is seen in a different light, when he commands entire departments and is the boss over many people - she can see him in competent action and not just a simp paying for sex. The situational Alpha status is real - the barkeeper or teacher out of the club or the classroom loses great attraction value for the female hamster.

[Gringuito]

(03-24-2015 01:43 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 01:36 PM)magicone Wrote:  

They are hiring the prostitutes as "personal assistants" ?

That is a terrible deal, paying for prostitutes is just very omega and very humiliating actually.

Nah - in EE and FSU it's commonly known to hire assistants and secretaries "with benefits". You just get a girl that works as your assistant and make it clear that she gets paid more for the occasional blowjobs and sex.

I have even read such ads by girls themselves - they looking for such arrangements actively. In Russia it's even expected with some jobs - they have a term they add on the job ad and everyone knows what else is expected of you.

The girls actually like those kind of arrangements - you get paid way more doing a normal job and often after your shelf-life is done you might have a real job left, all taxes paid, health insurance, pension plan - and you don't feel like being a whore that way. Besides - women find their bosses generally attractive, so the power dynamic is actually different than if it was just a client that came to her apartment. The very same guy she would feel disgust for is seen in a different light, when he commands entire departments and is the boss over many people - she can see him in competent action and not just a simp paying for sex. The situational Alpha status is real - the barkeeper or teacher out of the club or the classroom loses great attraction value for the female hamster.

Yes, EE/FSU "sponsorship" is very common. Go to Moscow and read the classified section or go on a dating website. In South America it's also expected that bosses get to hook up with their employees. You have to remember that the US is a strange mixture of slutty/everything goes along with puritanical. Just visit Amsterdam or Germany if you want to see how the rest of the world views the world's oldest profession.

[Spectrumwalker]

Someone posted this movie in the comments section of ROK under the Maltese Falcon article. Watched it last night, and it's a very gut wrenching movie. Makes you want to jump in and punch the protagonist in the face to wake him up and save his soul. It's relevant to this thread as it deals with an older unhappy married man who falls for a seductive and cunning young woman. The woman, and her bad boy boyfriend take the man for a ride and rinse him. The protagonist is your quintessential sex starved lonely nice guy who can't say no, and is oblivious to the underlying schemes of women. The man so desperately wants her love and affection he will do anything for her. The idea of young women rinsing old men is nothing new. More young men need to watch old movies like this that accurately reflect human nature and the real world. Instead of socialist/feminist Disneyland feel good movies.

[Slacker101]

(02-01-2015 12:42 AM)Seboist Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 11:19 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 11:07 PM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  

Damn, some followers on some broads twitter account actually offered to buy her things. What can you say about these guys, they've got millions and can afford to burn money.

A lot of these bitches have Amazon wish lists that they provide a link to so guys can purchase gifts for them. The guys doing it are not all older dudes with money, and the girls getting gifts are not all dimes. I don't think most guys know how fucked up the game really is, and we can point at the women all day for it, and we should, but just know that a lot of men are aiding and abetting the fuckedupness.

There are whores in the porn biz who do that too. Some men apparently get off on being useful idiots.

Had a friend who used to do this constantly with a particular porn girl. Also would get "private pictures/shows". He couldn't be helped, he's terrible with money and got off on it for some reason. He's now supporting a girl and buying her shit all the time, this one lives with him and he does get to bang her though. I'm still waiting for it to blow up.

(03-24-2015 01:24 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 01:18 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

How is it that beta simps have $20k a month to drop on bitches that don't put out

I don't know any so there can't be too many of them. Most guys I know with that kind of money are either married or swimming in ass but again this is Florida so that same 20k hoe is probably 200 dollars.

He was making around 75k a year before taxes and lived in a really low COL area. So it happens.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Those girls rinsing men are not comparable to PUAs/guys with Game who get sex with little money and no commitment invested, since in those cases women are attracted to them.

In fact the perfect comparison of those rinsing babes is a decrepit fat 80 year old billionaire who walks up to teenage models, promises them marriage, fucks them, shits on them and then reneges on their offer of marriage - in the worst case after having strung them on for years.

You could argue that both are fooled and the illusion of what they might desire is worth it. However we know that it is in fact worth nothing in the end.

[magicone]

(03-24-2015 02:02 PM)Spectrumwalker Wrote:  

The man so desperately wants her love and affection he will do anything for her. The idea of young women rinsing old men is nothing new. More young men need to watch old movies like this that accurately reflect human nature and the real world. Instead of socialist/feminist Disneyland feel good movies.

And also another must-see is the classic "Heartbreakers" 2001,
with 2 professional gold diggers who are conning
every men who fall in love with them:

[heavy]

First I saw this thread...

Am I the only one who read the title and thought was a Lifestyle or Game thread that needed to be moved?

Thought you guys were contemplating going homo just for the $

[GlockTrigga]

20k a month they might as well move to bangkok and hire an entire village of girls (some of whom may be really male) to service them for a month straight with no breaks.

[Icarus]

(03-26-2015 12:49 PM)GlockTrigga Wrote:  

20k a month they might as well move to bangkok

They may be getting 100 GBP a month from 200 different simps.

[Gringuito]

These types of scams have been going on since internet dating became popular. It's so easy for someone to setup a fake account with a model's pictures and ask for money. It's not much different than the Nigerian scams. At the core they are all the same scam: You'll get something great (money or sex) if you give me some money first.

I'm not going to defend these rinsing girls but I didn't see them directly offer sex for money and then back-out after the money was paid. In the documentary it seemed that they always danced around the issue and let the guy believe there was a chance for sex. It's still manipulation for sure, they know exactly what they are doing. But at the same time the guys are letting their little head do all of the thinking. And how many blue-pill guys spend money on dinner, chocolate, gifts all in the hope of winning the girl over. We know better but men in the West have been taught to give things to girls without question.

[SlickyBoy]

(03-14-2015 02:12 PM)RouteBackwards Wrote:  

You know, sure this is lame and semi-snakish on the womans part, but fuck it, if ugly ass older broads were willing to pay me 20k a month while I travel the world with them, I'd be down.

It gets old. Fast.

[magicone]

(03-26-2015 02:01 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

And how many blue-pill guys spend money on dinner, chocolate, gifts all in the hope of winning the girl over. We know better but men in the West have been taught to give things to girls without question.

No surprise that some girls live their lives only from date to date with different guys, updating their makeup, and then preparing for the next round of gifts-receiving...

[Hotwheels]

(03-26-2015 02:01 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

These types of scams have been going on since internet dating became popular. It's so easy for someone to setup a fake account with a model's pictures and ask for money. It's not much different than the Nigerian scams. At the core they are all the same scam: You'll get something great (money or sex) if you give me some money first.

I'm not going to defend these rinsing girls but I didn't see them directly offer sex for money and then back-out after the money was paid. In the documentary it seemed that they always danced around the issue and let the guy believe there was a chance for sex. It's still manipulation for sure, they know exactly what they are doing. But at the same time the guys are letting their little head do all of the thinking. And how many blue-pill guys spend money on dinner, chocolate, gifts all in the hope of winning the girl over. We know better but men in the West have been taught to give things to girls without question.

A year or two back I set up a female profile on one of the sugar daddy sites just to see what volume of guys were on there and how many emails she would get.

I was amazed when some dude from Texas (the girl's profile showed WI) opened up with an offer of $15,000 to come see him.

I had not contacted or even viewed this guy's profile, and the girls profile was pretty brief with no monetary demands. She was hot, but other than that nothing.

Frankly, I was astounded.

And no, I didn't take his money.

[Gringuito]

^^^ Perhaps the $15,000 guy was also trying to run some type of scam.

[Hotwheels]

(04-27-2015 08:35 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

^^^ Perhaps the $15,000 guy was also trying to run some type of scam.

It's possible but I'm not real sure what angle might be there, other than trafficking. Or fronting for a Dubai Deuce.

I know airline tickets were included but it's been so long ago I don't recall the details. Never corresponded with the guy to clarify anything.

Kind of wish I had, but I'm not one to play that game.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-27-2015 09:58 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(04-27-2015 08:35 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

^^^ Perhaps the $15,000 guy was also trying to run some type of scam.

It's possible but I'm not real sure what angle might be there, other than trafficking. Or fronting for a Dubai Deuce.

I know airline tickets were included but it's been so long ago I don't recall the details. Never corresponded with the guy to clarify anything.

Kind of wish I had, but I'm not one to play that game.

Some guys are stupid enough or desperate in that regard.

15k to come see you, but he is bringing the cash along. Then at the meeting he offers 20k more for sex.

Or it was a fake account where someone impersonated a rich guy - plenty of men do that. Some even write to escort agencies of how many girls they would like to order and add how tall/good-looking they are - as if that matters....