[N°6]

This is why feminists hate prostitution. Whores often offer a superior product for a pay-as-you-go license.

This undermines the feminist ideal: a long-term commercial lease with such a costly break clause for the man that he doesn't have the legal force to impose the repair and maintenance part of the covenant.

[Michael P]

Because SADLY I have a lot of experience talking with feminist, when confronted with the fact that sugar daddy-ism is opposite from feminist values, they most likely will say:

1. The magazine gives free-speech to "womyn" even to points of view they do not agree upon, just so women have a place to express themselves (as if they usually don't talk/blog all day). Thus deflecting the argument from Feminism because it is perfect. "FEMINISM HAS NO FLAWS".
2. Women can do whatever they like - That is the freedom feminism worked for.
3. You are beeing misogynist. (End of discussion).

As stated earlier. This can be stoped by anyone with a minimal level of game. These are flagrant maneuvers.

But there are men who do not see this. They must be helped. Helped to learn enough so to realize they don't know.

[britchard]

You realise the excuse feminists give for this is the 'gender pay gap' and lack of women in high paying jobs?

[Michael P]

(02-01-2015 07:20 AM)britchard Wrote:  

You realise the excuse feminists give for this is the 'gender pay gap' and lack of women in high paying jobs?

I did not. I have not heard that excuse in this context. Yet.
But by their "logic" any con artist is EXCUSED by economic troubles.

I did not bring up what hey say, to help people prepare comebacks, because hamsters are "over 9 thousand" in feminist. I did mention it so people are not shocked when they hear stupidity in pure form.

[magicone]

(01-31-2015 04:13 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

I've known a lot of whores at all levels of the whoring spectrum. One thing they all have in common is that they all lie. What's interesting though is what they lie about.

The lower end whores will lie about stupid shit, but will tell you straight up that they sucked ten dicks that day if they sucked ten dicks that day.

The pricier whores are more inclined to tell you shit like "most of the guys I see just want to talk, and I only have sex with you because you seem like a nice guy."

Absolutely true.

The prostitutes have seen through their experience that beta and omega men constantly white knight them, and fall in love with them ("Pretty Woman" movie style) if the prostitutes just say
the classical lines:

"I spend time with older men who just need company so I just talk to them and listen to them because they are lonely,
but I do all this kinds of very kinky sex and anal sex just with you
because I like you a lot and you are special to me"

So the rewards are very big for every scum prostitute that simply learns this basic lines...

[jariel]

(02-01-2015 12:42 AM)Seboist Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 11:19 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 11:07 PM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  

Damn, some followers on some broads twitter account actually offered to buy her things. What can you say about these guys, they've got millions and can afford to burn money.

A lot of these bitches have Amazon wish lists that they provide a link to so guys can purchase gifts for them. The guys doing it are not all older dudes with money, and the girls getting gifts are not all dimes. I don't think most guys know how fucked up the game really is, and we can point at the women all day for it, and we should, but just know that a lot of men are aiding and abetting the fuckedupness.

There are whores in the porn biz who do that too. Some men apparently get off on being useful idiots.

[lavidaloca]

A lot of girls are dreaming if they expect to find a 20k / month sugar daddy lol. About 1 in 1000 guys has the money available to do this if they chose to. About 1 in 10 of guys with this type of money is non-married. (Married guys may use sugar babies too but really whose gonna pay 20k to see them once or twice or week when they can't stay over.) The market now is at 1 in 10,000. How many of those guys are truly interested in straight up paying for chicks. (Maybe 1 in 10?) Now we are at 1 in 100,000. Lots of girls are dreaming. But wait, there are plenty of girls offering it to them for far less money per month and usually to get that rich you are conservative with your finances. The odds of getting a 20k a month simp are about the odds of winning the lottery if you ask me assuming we aren't talking about a married couple which is a different dynamic.

The only place I could see woman having a reasonable possibility of pulling this off is New York City.

[El Chinito loco]

(02-01-2015 09:21 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

A lot of girls are dreaming if they expect to find a 20k / month sugar daddy lol. About 1 in 1000 guys has the money available to do this if they chose to. About 1 in 10 of guys with this type of money is non-married. (Married guys may use sugar babies too but really whose gonna pay 20k to see them once or twice or week when they can't stay over.) The market now is at 1 in 10,000. How many of those guys are truly interested in straight up paying for chicks. (Maybe 1 in 10?) Now we are at 1 in 100,000. Lots of girls are dreaming. But wait, there are plenty of girls offering it to them for far less money per month and usually to get that rich you are conservative with your finances. The odds of getting a 20k a month simp are about the odds of winning the lottery if you ask me assuming we aren't talking about a married couple which is a different dynamic.


The only place I could see woman having a reasonable possibility of pulling this off is New York City.

The Bay area, Seattle, and the wealthier New England states are where women like this can run their gold digger con the best.

There are a lot of cashed up simps in the Bay area in particular. A lot of them aren't even rolling in money they are just highly paid IT office drones but thirsty enough that a 7 or 8 would wreak havoc. She could string along several of these guys for just a few thousand from each and diversify her simp income stream.

I wouldn't mind just seeing a bunch of gold diggers descend and tear the place apart. I believe when enough guys crash and burn with these gold diggers in those high profile cities that's when real change may start.

[Sherman]

Sherman's guide for older rich men.

Get out of the United States.

[N°6]

(02-01-2015 07:20 AM)britchard Wrote:  

You realise the excuse feminists give for this is the 'gender pay gap' and lack of women in high paying jobs?

Every woman on the same pay grade as me has always been richer and lived an enviable life style. Why?

Their husbands have always been a few pay grades higher than them. My male peers ended up with poorer women.

This is why brothers and married male employees used to get more money from the father and the boss respectively. It was an accepted fact that a man's expenses in life would be higher as he would have to buy a wife.

Now we have equality in the interview room, planned inequality in the dating bar, men in relationships with less good looking poorer women and a lot of spinsters at the wall demanding a successful man who somehow survived the equality cull. Market failure approaches.

[demolition]

(02-01-2015 09:21 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

A lot of girls are dreaming if they expect to find a 20k / month sugar daddy lol. About 1 in 1000 guys has the money available to do this if they chose to. About 1 in 10 of guys with this type of money is non-married. (Married guys may use sugar babies too but really whose gonna pay 20k to see them once or twice or week when they can't stay over.) The market now is at 1 in 10,000. How many of those guys are truly interested in straight up paying for chicks. (Maybe 1 in 10?) Now we are at 1 in 100,000. Lots of girls are dreaming. But wait, there are plenty of girls offering it to them for far less money per month and usually to get that rich you are conservative with your finances. The odds of getting a 20k a month simp are about the odds of winning the lottery if you ask me assuming we aren't talking about a married couple which is a different dynamic.

The only place I could see woman having a reasonable possibility of pulling this off is New York City.

It doesn't matter that a woman is unlikely to find an individual man who can give her 20k / month.

Go visit some camwhore sites, or even Twitch.tv where girls just sit around playing videogames and people donate cash to them. Desperate guys will donate $50 to a chick they like for a shout out from a cute girl. And some of these guys do end up giving thousands of dollars in donations for absolutely nothing guaranteed in response. The stupidity and level of thirst is beyond my imagining.

[CactusCat589]

I'm pretty sure there's a way for guys to get in on this hustle. Recruit a pretty chick from my social circle to build a Youtube channel, Twitch account, to start a gaming channel or whatever. She'll have a hobby where thousands of subscribers are validating her and maybe she already enjoys playing video games, now she can monetize it.

Hell, start up a whole network of 3 or 4 chicks. Have them do specials where they game together dressed in risque fashion. They can cross-promote each other to build a bigger viewership pool. They can play multiplayer where the little chodes will flock to them. Guy gamers on Youtube will choose their favorite and declare them to be their waifus. And for your contributions and effort, you of course need a cut of the pie. Just need to put in the initial investment of the camera and capture card (ideally she already owns a console).

Hell, I'd get a real kick out of it. Using women to finance your lifestyle. The only thing is to see how much they can realistically make. Back in middle school I convinced two girls at different points to grind my Runescape account. My mining got from level 55 to the point my character could mine addy.

[magicone]

(02-02-2015 12:56 AM)demolition Wrote:  

It doesn't matter that a woman is unlikely to find an individual man who can give her 20k / month.

Go visit some camwhore sites, or even Twitch.tv where girls just sit around playing videogames and people donate cash to them. Desperate guys will donate $50 to a chick they like for a shout out from a cute girl. And some of these guys do end up giving thousands of dollars in donations for absolutely nothing guaranteed in response. The stupidity and level of thirst is beyond my imagining.

Return of Kings should have a week on shaming all these omega thirsty pathetic men

[Gringuito]

(02-02-2015 12:43 PM)magicone Wrote:  

Return of Kings should have a week on shaming all these omega thirsty pathetic men

I'm not sure shaming will work. Entire industries have been created to take advantage of thirsty men. Hit up any club in NYC, Miami, Vegas and see the groups of guys paying big $$$ on overpriced bottles to "impress" girls. All of the host/promoters/clubs would be out of business without thirsty guys. Their job is to hook up girls who want to party for free with guys willing to spend the $$$ on the girls. Western men have been well trained to give money to women. And western women have been trained to expect to get free stuff from men. Do girls even bring more than uber money to a club?

The vast majority of guys are paying for dinners/dates with the hope of a good-night kiss. On this forum we've learned to not invest much in a women until she's worth it. We are in the small minority.

In the circles I travel most of the women expect the men to drop tons of money on them. And most of the men do just that. A girl a know just had tons of plastic surgery and bought a new car. She hasn't worked in the 3 years she been dating her boyfriend. I met another girl who just had flown to the US to study. She was a friend of a ex-girlfriend. She has no job and no money saved. In the first 4 hours she was in the US she was taken out to all the best nightclubs and second day a private yacht party. She told me she'll be buying her car next month.

To me it's bizarre but western guys get some strange pleasure out of giving things to women, even when they know that they are just being used.

[philosophical_recovery]

Consuming porn also contributed to this. Advertising dollars, as well as the schmucks paying to watch a chick get banged out by another man, are contributing to this.

I say, starve them. If they're gonna whore, let them do it in fact as prostitutes and not get all that film cash. The problem is too many men willing to pay.

Make those girls earn their attention for something other than dropping their underwear. Otherwise, we'll just become another Japan with men paying to hug someone for an hour at a time.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-02-2015 02:35 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

In the circles I travel most of the women expect the men to drop tons of money on them. And most of the men do just that. A girl a know just had tons of plastic surgery and bought a new car. She hasn't worked in the 3 years she been dating her boyfriend. I met another girl who just had flown to the US to study. She was a friend of a ex-girlfriend. She has no job and no money saved. In the first 4 hours she was in the US she was taken out to all the best nightclubs and second day a private yacht party. She told me she'll be buying her car next month.

To me it's bizarre but western guys get some strange pleasure out of giving things to women, even when they know that they are just being used.

Male thirst is a basic expression of sexual desire that is currently exacerbated in the West due to environmental conditions - obesity culture, feminism, masculine women, immigration slanting the male-female population proportions even more etc.

The very same men would spend a fraction of money on women if they lived in Ukraine or Russia.

You simply cannot stop male thirst anymore than you can stop female hypergamy. It is ingrained in us. In the West it has just become absurd beyond proportion where young pretty girls are treated like famous pop-stars.

As long as the number of slim pleasant women is so limited in the West men will continue to spend cash on them. Most Russian guys would laugh at US style strip clubs and the amount men pay just to have a girl dance on their lap. For the same amount in Russia a girl would have to do much more substantial things.

Men buy female attention, because the entire Blue Pill conditioning has been ingrained in them that this is the way to go and they are told that mainly looks and money attract girls. Due to lack of the former they try to do it with what they've got left.

I've even had friends who blasted exorbitant amounts on strippers in EE - good-looking men with natural Game, because they "enjoyed" the experience, but all they got was a dance. Only after I talked to them with a more Red Pill understandingm, only then their perceptions shifted and they started running Game and fucking girls instead of wasting time on single mothers who are only interested to grab as much cash as possible.

The Blue Pill matrix is strong.

[Pride male]

I have noticed something equally disturbing in my area. Ugly ass bitches jumping into convertibes. I dont understand how ugly gold diggers can make a living. If you are going to pay for it, it might as well be a dime piece.

[aSimpNamedBrokeback]

(02-02-2015 12:56 AM)demolition Wrote:  

Go visit some camwhore sites,

Alot of that is dudes trying to out shine the other dudes in the room. No different than anything else in this consumer culture, "Look at me I'm so rich I can waste money on stupid shit". They don't care about the camwhore one way or another, just that she mentions his name.

[godfather dust]

(02-02-2015 06:12 PM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:  

(02-02-2015 12:56 AM)demolition Wrote:  

Go visit some camwhore sites,

Alot of that is dudes trying to out shine the other dudes in the room. No different than anything else in this consumer culture, "Look at me I'm so rich I can waste money on stupid shit". They don't care about the camwhore one way or another, just that she mentions his name.

Hmmm I never looked at simpering as a way of showing off... cuz it's not. No one on the planet thinks simpish behaviour is cool.

edit: didn't even read your name before posting this. "Simp" is just one of my favorite insults.

[aSimpNamedBrokeback]

(02-02-2015 07:25 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

Hmmm I never looked at simpering as a way of showing off... cuz it's not. No one on the planet thinks simpish behaviour is cool.

I agree with you, but I guarantee they don't see it as simping. To me all forms of spending money on stupid shit to impress people is simping.

[Michael P]

(02-02-2015 07:25 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

(02-02-2015 06:12 PM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:  

(02-02-2015 12:56 AM)demolition Wrote:  

Go visit some camwhore sites,

Alot of that is dudes trying to out shine the other dudes in the room. No different than anything else in this consumer culture, "Look at me I'm so rich I can waste money on stupid shit". They don't care about the camwhore one way or another, just that she mentions his name.

Hmmm I never looked at simpering as a way of showing off... cuz it's not. No one on the planet thinks simpish behaviour is cool.

edit: didn't even read your name before posting this. "Simp" is just one of my favorite insults.

I could not agree more. Alas there are some people that have been manipulated into thinking this. Even "macho" cultures are actually female dominated.

As you shall be able to observe, just her voice is worth the money...

[almohajem]

If a guy is paying $20k/month to get sex, and he is not getting sex, and can do nothing about it, he really has bigger problems than getting sex from that girl or any girl for that matter.

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

(01-31-2015 05:17 PM)GeroMeroHero Wrote:  

Relevant

Did anyone else find it physically impossible to watch that? I couldn't stop grinding my teeth out of disgust.

We talk a huge amount about how low-quality Western women are, but if there are guys who are willing to be that simp-like, it's actually a bit less hard to hold it against them. I mean, if the "market" of thirsty guys can support it, then why not?

90% of the problem isn't the girls, but the level of guys we have to deal with nowadays.

HSLD

[H1N1]

I clicked on this thread hoping to find some actionable advice based on the title. I leave disappointed.

[Gringuito]

(03-13-2015 08:05 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

I clicked on this thread hoping to find some actionable advice based on the title. I leave disappointed.

Can't have that. Be the pimp/boyfriend of a girl doing this. Dominate her completely, which will be easy since she's dealing with a pathetic old rich wanker. Profit