[MiXX]

Damn...sounds like I need to get my ass to Poland without fail Fall 2011!! TG3, would you say that the overall vibe for ease of lays is in the whole country, or only places like Poznan, Wroclaw?

Mixx

[Bronze]

(05-23-2011 06:25 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I have heard about Neo-Nazi Soccer fans in certain cities and that has put me off the place, can you elaborate more on this?

Firstly, this sport is called football, not soccer.

Secondly, have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_ho..._in_Poland

Thirdly: These guys want fight like men. They look for ENEMIES, not for VICTIMS. A group of 10 hools is more likely to attack a rival group of 10 hools from an enemy "firm" than attacking a single random guy who cannot defend himself in that situation.

[Tg3]

(05-23-2011 02:50 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

I am about to go someplace that will put this thread topic to the test (again). I am going to Midwest states of America and to a 3rd tier city of Canada called Winnipeg for the next 2 months. My exotic value should be through the roof according to theories here.

From my understanding of the feedback I received from members that have lived in both of these areas, is that latinos from Miami are seldom seen anywhere in Fargo, ND and Winnipeg - if at all. So, will my exotic value go up, down or not even make a dent on how girls perceive me?

@TG3 - you're right, most of my experience of Germany and Poland is from what I have read on this forum from very credible members (including Roosh), but also on the several German girls I tried to bang - with low success.

Point being: if I were to take 7 French-Canadian chicks, and fuck 5 (I have), and take 7 german girls and fuck only 1 (I have too)- doesn't that make the thread topic certainly plausible?

....more to come.

the weird thing is that I look latin too. And I could easily exchange the words german with french in your sentence. I am wondering if your bad luck with german girls is just a self fulfilling profecy. You ve had a couple bad lucks with some german girls, and because of that you assume in your head it is not going to go down, and you dont get laid as a result. And maybe with french girls, a self fulfilling profecy, kinda delusional, you think french girls all want to fuck you easily and so you make it happen because you have that belief it is going to go down.

Because, really man, I do look latin, and I have always had lots of easy lays with german girls. (and not as easy as you make it sound with french) (which makes sense by the way, a latin guy is very different from the typical german,blonde with blue eyes, but not so diff from the typical french guy, who is often dark hair, dark eyes etc..)

Anyway, I just repeat myself. It just bugs me so much what you say about german girls. You seem to have game and look good, there is no reason you have so much bad luck with german girls(I am not the only one to say it in the thread, and if you had lived the hostel lifestyle in south america, you would have seen a lot of german backpackers girls hooking with latinos, not even funny..)

[Mr.GM]

(05-23-2011 06:54 PM)Bronze Wrote:  

Firstly, this sport is called football, not soccer.

I call it football too,but there is no need to bash our american bros cause they call it soccer..take it easy dude.


Mixx,Poland is a no-brainer for latinos,"Enrique" is in high demand over there!!! (LOL just to quote him again on this forum lol)

[rudebwoy]

(05-23-2011 06:54 PM)Bronze Wrote:  

(05-23-2011 06:25 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I have heard about Neo-Nazi Soccer fans in certain cities and that has put me off the place, can you elaborate more on this?

Firstly, this sport is called football, not soccer.

Secondly, have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_ho..._in_Poland

Thirdly: These guys want fight like men. They look for ENEMIES, not for VICTIMS. A group of 10 hools is more likely to attack a rival group of 10 hools from an enemy "firm" than attacking a single random guy who cannot defend himself in that situation.

Dude you are a joke, I was actually born in England and I know a thing or two about "Football". I only use the word Soccer b/c most members on this site are in North America and I currently live in Canada.
Since I am approaching nearly age 40 I know a thing or two about Hooligans, since it was invented in England. I am sure alot more than you do, which would explain why my question was not directed at you.

Hooligans do not alway fight the ENEMY twit, they will attack innocent people which I have witnessed first hand. I am sure in Poland (or any other country) these supporters would attack an innocent tourist, if the numbers are in there favour. Plus I have read these type of stories about Hooligans in Poland before, so I think my question is valid.

[Mystik]

(05-23-2011 06:58 PM)Tg3 Wrote:  

the weird thing is that I look latin too. And I could easily exchange the words german with french in your sentence. I am wondering if your bad luck with german girls is just a self fulfilling profecy. You ve had a couple bad lucks with some german girls, and because of that you assume in your head it is not going to go down, and you dont get laid as a result. And maybe with french girls, a self fulfilling profecy, kinda delusional, you think french girls all want to fuck you easily and so you make it happen because you have that belief it is going to go down.

TG3, you have a point with the self-fulling prophecy theory and I might have agreed with you about the French girls part if I had not had experiences similar to those of MiXX with French girls.

You say that a Latino isn't exotic in France. Since, France (especially Paris) is so cosmopolitan I don't think that there is any race that is exotic in that country.

Yes, French guys usually have dark hair and eyes but you will agree that a Latino will be more exotic than a French guy, correct?

Now, you can argue that there are tons of Latinos or Latino looking men in France. Yes, you will be correct and I will agree with you but in France exoticness comes from standing out and not being the usual stereotype.
Though I am not even close to the level of game that MiXX has I look similar to him (I was thin back then) and we both have a very similar sense of style. I have mentioned time and again that this is the particular type of guy that will do well in France. Seriously, if a french girl has a fetish for a latino looking guy who will she fuck? The shitty arabs, indians or latinos that live in France. Nope! But she will pounce on the opportunity when she sees a stylish, educated and classy Latino, Arab, Indian, etc

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if you had lived the hostel lifestyle in south america, you would have seen a lot of german backpackers girls hooking with latinos, not even funny..)

I have seen this argument quite a lot and to be honest its a very weak argument. To say that German girls are into Latinos or any other race because you saw them hooking up with Latinos is South America is like saying that all the guys on this forum are into blonde nordic girls because a bunch of them went to Sweden and hooked up with Swedish girls. The girls who go to South America or any other country are already into the guys of that country and that's probably the reason they went to South America.

My experience is also limited to the German tourists that I have met in Europe. What pisses me about German girls is their sense of arrogance about their country. Also they are very unfeminine. I may be completely wrong and I have to go to Germany to know for sure.

[Hooligan Harry]

(05-13-2011 07:28 AM)Bronze Wrote:  

On this forum one often reads things like “Black/Latino guys kill it in Scandinavia”, or “Girls throw themselves at blonde guys in Rio”, etc.

Honestly, I don’t believe that. I’m from Western Europe and I’ve visited many countries so far – mainly in Western, Southern, and Eastern Europe, but also USA (not Latin America, not Africa, and not Asia). I did not see these things happen. Nowhere.

In each of these places I’ve been to, women choose man on three criteria: height, looks, and game. But not “exotic race". For example: All the black guys I see with attractive white girls, are tall and physically attractive. I never see average/unattractive or short blacks with hot white girls. I see them either getting one rejection after another in the club, or I see them with fatties. Same goes for White guys and Latinos. So just being of a certain “exotic race” is neither a considerable advantage or a disadvantage anywhere in the world.

I think you guys seriously overestimate the importance of being “exotic” in a foreign country.

However, that’s just my personal opinion from what I know from first-hand experience, and I’m open to discussion. Your opinions?

No dude, you are 100% correct.

Being from Europe, travel and multicultural societies are nothing new to you. For most Americans, its quite a big deal for them travel as extensively as these guys do. It also costs them a lot more and they have to travel a great distance to make it happen, not to mention being from what is geographically a massive place of similar culture and history.

I also think that there is a great deal of exaggeration with it really. Places like Rio or Moscow are world cities and they see a ton of tourists. Its the slightly more out of the way places where you are really exotic. It does help a bit, but its not something you can rely on and women are not going to spread their legs the minute you get off the plane

The way black guys on this forum talk about Sweden you swear to god the women are mounting them as they go through customs, when the reality is that there is a large African population there and a great deal of tourists are Africans holding euro passports!

I think it just that they go into their holidays with a much better mindset and they are more positive about everything, and get better results because of that. That confidence and big swinging dick helps them kick things up a notch, which they automatically assume is producing results because of their race instead of their own disposition.

It also cant be discounted that they have gone to a country or place where the women are still women and the women love being women. They love men too and they feel no need to compete with men. Gender is not a construct, its something to revel in and enjoy.

Unfortunately though, for all the strengths of this forum, there is a large part of it that is based on some posters who think that their ethnicity is a far bigger deal than it actually is.

[MiXX]

(05-23-2011 06:58 PM)Tg3 Wrote:  

Anyway, I just repeat myself. It just bugs me so much what you say about german girls. You seem to have game and look good, there is no reason you have so much bad luck with german girls(I am not the only one to say it in the thread, and if you had lived the hostel lifestyle in south america, you would have seen a lot of german backpackers girls hooking with latinos, not even funny..)

Well, there is only one thing to do: include Germany on my winter tour in 2012 of Europe.

Trust me, I truly hope I am wrong, and it's all in my head...really, I hope I am so incredibly wrong that Germany becomes a must-stop country every year for me.

With that said, I have never stayed in Hostels, so I don't even know what that is like..maybe I should, but I've been told hostels sucks for banging women versus a pimped out private pad in any city downtown.

Which city in Germany should I start with? Frankfurt? or a 2nd tier city?

Oh yeah, I'm curious, are you German yourself?

Mixx

[Bronze]

(05-24-2011 10:23 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

Which city in Germany should I start with? Frankfurt? or a 2nd tier city?

1st tier cities:

Berlin: 3.6 million inhabitants, cheap, 24/7 nightlife
Hamburg: 1.8 or so, a bit posh, expensive
Munich: 1.6, very posh, dress very well here, probably best-looking girls in Germany, top clubs etc., expensive
Cologne: 1.0, always good for partying

2nd tier cities:

Bremen: 0.7, nothing special
Essen: see Bremen
Leipzig: nothing special, some say the most beautiful girls of Germany come from this region (Saxony), but I disagree on that
Düsseldorf: 0.7, rich city, posh people, lots of models, could be expensive
Frankfurt: 0.6, rich city
Stuttgart: nothing special if you're not into Mercedes or Porsche

[Tg3]

(05-24-2011 10:23 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(05-23-2011 06:58 PM)Tg3 Wrote:  

Anyway, I just repeat myself. It just bugs me so much what you say about german girls. You seem to have game and look good, there is no reason you have so much bad luck with german girls(I am not the only one to say it in the thread, and if you had lived the hostel lifestyle in south america, you would have seen a lot of german backpackers girls hooking with latinos, not even funny..)

Well, there is only one thing to do: include Germany on my winter tour in 2012 of Europe.

Trust me, I truly hope I am wrong, and it's all in my head...really, I hope I am so incredibly wrong that Germany becomes a must-stop country every year for me.

With that said, I have never stayed in Hostels, so I don't even know what that is like..maybe I should, but I've been told hostels sucks for banging women versus a pimped out private pad in any city downtown.

Which city in Germany should I start with? Frankfurt? or a 2nd tier city?

Oh yeah, I'm curious, are you German yourself?

Mixx

No, I am not german. Uhm any cities in germany is fine for me, even though I am not really a germany speciallist..

And, about hostels , man, do yourself a favor, try it, this is awesome to get laid with other travelers.(indeed not the best to bring home the local girls, even though I often do it. Except in south america, where it is usually not accepted, then I just ask a taxi to bring us to a cheap motel, never been a problem for the girl..), By the way, south america is the best for hooking up in hostels, I have seen some hostels where virtually all female guest had hooked up with male guests, the first guy who tries to get the girl gets the girl, basically.(after Quality varies, there are not always hot girls in there, but if there is one, you are quite sure to get her, if you go for it, competition is not very tough, because most guys don't realize how female travellers are so DTF)

[VillaD_Rock]

(05-22-2011 11:24 PM)Tg3 Wrote:  

(05-13-2011 03:00 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Ha! Agreed, German girls do not throw themselves at Latin men; they throw themselves at American Black men.

So, if Enrique Iglesias, and Usher were to walk into a bar together in Germany, it's going to be a lonely night for Enrique. However, if the same guys were both in Poland, Enrique would get the bulk of attention.

I've gone out with a few German girls, and they were too fucking hard to bang. However, my black friends tell me that German girls are their easiest almost guaranteed lays.

So, I guess exoticness does play a factor, but it depends on the location 100%

Mixx

dude, not trying to start an argue but your knowledge of both germany and poland come from the forum. You can't say affirmations like that when you have never been in the country.
I look argentinian/spanish, and I have had mad success with german girls (both in germany and outside germany). When I was in south america, there were many german girls hooking up with the locals and loving it(specially in peru for some reason, or with argentinians and chileans of course cause they are good looking..). So, no, your opinion is just wrongly based on few posts and a couple of experiences you ve had. The contrast between poland and germany is not that big, neither for latinos nor for black.
Loads of German girls love latinos(I heard many german girls saying it clearly out loud, that they love brazilians or argentinians or peruvians, for watever reasons, cause they think they are cut more outgoing, passionate, funny watever) and loads of polish girls love black guys, actually I have at least two polish fuck buddies who told me they really love black guys (the fact that black guys are way more rare in pland than in germany will probably maybe make it easier for them in poland) .
Usher may beat enrique in poland, and enrique may beat usher in germany.

Black will do very well in poland, and latinos will do very well in germany. Guaranteed!

And yeah I agree with title of the post, guys here anyway overestimate exotic..

Lol what bullshit, Usher and Enrique would both get laid as often as they want in both countries. If you put an Usher and Enrique in a club in Poland and Germany both would have many girls around them. Didn't you know that every girl has a different taste? Isn't it crazy to assume that all girls in a club would be attracted to black guys or latin guys, really there would even be tons of girls who wouldn't care for both, because they only like blond men or fair men. The phenomen of supply and demand makes some people delusional. The same in Latin America, maybe the blond guy has a easier time to take a girl home, but most girls in the club still aren't interested. He only has no real competition, because the supply for blond guys is higher than the demand.

I would say in streetgame race doesn't matter, I think that locals has the advatage here. If you take for example a white guy and a black guy who should approach as many girls in Europe for example, the white guy would get more numbers, because a white woman who isn't attracted to white guys is a rare breed, the other way it's not that rare.

As for german girls, I wonder what mixx said. They are considered easy by our muslim population and I know many turks who have an easy time with german woman, even my blond friend never leaves a club without a chick. And for black guys, there are certain clubs who are known to have black guys and it's easy for them to get girls. In general the girls who went to this clubs know that black guys went to this place and some girls want to try a black guy, because of the stereotypes.

But it's a fact that beeing exotic if you are decent looking is an advantage, you have less competition, girls want to try something different. It's the same with girls, I saw Italian guys who stalked blond girls and I know a white/black mixed girl who get more attention in the club than the white girls to the point that she want to leave the club.

[gig]

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I have heard about Neo-Nazi Soccer fans in certain cities and that has put me off the place, can you elaborate more on this?

Hooligans should not deter you from visiting CE countries but I'll give you one serious warning which especially applies to this forum:

If you run into hooligans and they get a whiff of a feeling that you're here "to fuck local girls", your chance of getting beaten up badly increase by roughly 1,000%.

This applies to white tourists too. Even with blond hair.

Thugs are especially sensitive to this issue and in this specific regard, one can argue that you get what you're asking for, if you tell a bunch of locals "I'm here to fuck your women hahahahaha", then you're are inevitably a moron, and morons get in trouble sooner or later.

I can't count how many tourists I met who act exactly the way I just described (including the "hahahahaha"). I don't know if they did this way only because they knew that I'm a foreigner as well, or if they act this way around any bunch of dudes they meet. I hope they don't do the latter.

[sheesh]

(05-24-2011 12:56 AM)Mystik Wrote:  

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My experience is also limited to the German tourists that I have met in Europe. What pisses me about German girls is their sense of arrogance about their country. Also they are very unfeminine. I may be completely wrong and I have to go to Germany to know for sure.

German girls aren't known for their femininity. Being German myself, I like the fact that Germany is very diverse. Tall/short girls, blond, brown,black, etc...everything is there unlike Spain or Italy where it can get kind of boring visually.
I wouldn't advise anyone to go to Germany for the girls alone, however - 95% don't know how to flirt and will give you a bad time imho.