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Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Bronze - 05-13-2011
On this forum one often reads things like “Black/Latino guys kill it in Scandinavia”, or “Girls throw themselves at blonde guys in Rio”, etc.
Honestly, I don’t believe that. I’m from Western Europe and I’ve visited many countries so far – mainly in Western, Southern, and Eastern Europe, but also USA (not Latin America, not Africa, and not Asia). I did not see these things happen. Nowhere.
In each of these places I’ve been to, women choose man on three criteria: height, looks, and game. But not “exotic race". For example: All the black guys I see with attractive white girls, are tall and physically attractive. I never see average/unattractive or short blacks with hot white girls. I see them either getting one rejection after another in the club, or I see them with fatties. Same goes for White guys and Latinos. So just being of a certain “exotic race” is neither a considerable advantage or a disadvantage anywhere in the world.
I think you guys seriously overestimate the importance of being “exotic” in a foreign country.
However, that’s just my personal opinion from what I know from first-hand experience, and I’m open to discussion. Your opinions?
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Easy E - 05-13-2011
You are probably a troll...
...but Roosh already wrote a blog post on this topic that pretty much agreed with what you just said. Don't see why you need to rehash this debate here.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Bronze - 05-13-2011
Quote: (05-13-2011 08:37 AM)Easy E Wrote:
You are probably a troll...
So you're calling me a troll just because I came up with a rather general question at my first post? Why are you judgeing people you don't know and you've never seen in field?
I am the very opposite of a troll/KJ. I'm out there in the field several times a week when I have time for that.
Back to the question please.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Mr.GM - 05-13-2011
http://www.rooshv.com/danish-roommate-in-brazil
Roosh pretty much explains the subject here.In my opinion exotic looks really gives you an advantage over the local abundant race,but its not everything.Looks and Game(most important) still matter a lot.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Moma - 05-13-2011
I agree that looks matter. People love change. Women love change. They love something different.
Who wants to eat steak when you get it every day for lunch, breakfast and dinner?
What about trying pasta since you don't get it often?
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Mystik - 05-13-2011
When someone on this forum says that you will be exotic in country X then by that he means that you will have a higher probability of getting laid than a guy who is a local but is equal to you in terms of other aspects (looks, money, game).
So, if I go to lets say Scandinavia and have a 6 ft 2in Swedish businessman -millionaire - model - actor sitting next to me and I am also in the same league in terms of all categories then I will have a better chance of getting laid because I am a notch above him because of my exoticness. Even if am not equivalent in all categories, lets say that I am slightly worse looking, I still might have a better chance than my Swedish counterpart because my exoticness gives me those extra points.
As moma said, you can eat the best stake in the world for only those many days and after that you will settle for a mediocre plate of Pasta.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - MiXX - 05-13-2011
There are no hard figures that prove exoticness gets you laid. However, tell that to all the French Canadian chics who have fucked me and begging to whisper sweet nothings in Spanish in their ear!
In South America women have expressed to me wanting to meet a European looking blonde man that is different form the everyday men they see.
Ripleys: Believe it or not!
Mixx
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - thegmanifesto - 05-13-2011
I get a little thrown off by some of the "exotic" comments on here too.
Especially these ones:
"Girls were throwing themselves at me"
"Everywhere I was going, girls were eye-f*cking me"
Neither of those happens to me anywhere I go.
What I want to know, is when the above happens, are you swooping?
Surely if girls are throwing themselves at you and eye-f*cking you non-stop, you must be swooping tons, right?
Like 10 girls a day? 20?
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Mystik - 05-13-2011
Quote: (05-13-2011 11:17 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Surely if girls are throwing themselves at you and eye-f*cking you non-stop, you must be swooping tons, right?
Like 10 girls a day? 20?
Just cause you're hung like a moose doesn't mean you gotta do porn.
And honestly, there are very people in this world who can physically capable of banging 10-20 girls a day. I cant do that number in a week let alone in a day.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - hydrogonian - 05-13-2011
The rate of occurrence of girls that see you as attractive, because your different, is probably about the same as the rate of attraction that you feel for girls that are different.
As for me, its definitely been a factor in my past attraction for women, and I still have my specific "exotic fetishes" although I'm more picky now.
Girls will be the same. There's no reason to believe, either theoretically or going by past experience, that they would not be prey to the same "exotic is attractive" factor.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - zanetti - 05-13-2011
i definitely felt i was considered "exotic" in colombia, argentina, cuba, tokyo (the non-gaijin hang-outs), indonesia but not in malaysia, sao paulo and rio
if anything i think guys underestimate not overestimate it - see what happens if you send a white guy who's never been laid in north america/europe to thailand
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Moma - 05-13-2011
Quote: (05-13-2011 11:28 AM)Mystik Wrote:
Quote: (05-13-2011 11:17 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Surely if girls are throwing themselves at you and eye-f*cking you non-stop, you must be swooping tons, right?
Like 10 girls a day? 20?
Just cause you're hung like a moose doesn't mean you gotta do porn.
And honestly, there are very people in this world who can physically capable of banging 10-20 girls a day. I cant do that number in a week let alone in a day.
Well, buddy, you need to start becoming very familiar with Uncle Ciallis.
Yea I was gonna ask what Gmanifesto meant by swooping..because I might be able to squeeze out three nuts on my first day of ultra horn but then I'd only have enough savings for one nut the next day and I'd have to skip the next two or three days.
Disclaimer: I do not nor have I ever used Ciallis. I, also, do not frown upon those that use it.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Moma - 05-13-2011
Quote: (05-13-2011 11:17 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
I get a little thrown off by some of the "exotic" comments on here too.
Especially these ones:
"Girls were throwing themselves at me"
"Everywhere I was going, girls were eye-f*cking me"
Neither of those happens to me anywhere I go.
What I want to know, is when the above happens, are you swooping?
Surely if girls are throwing themselves at you and eye-f*cking you non-stop, you must be swooping tons, right?
Like 10 girls a day? 20?
Hmmm that's odd...I've been eye-fcuked like crazy and all the forementioned (Winnipeg particularly stands out for me for that memory). It's happened to me and I don't even have your build or your clothes.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Giovonny - 05-13-2011
Being the "exotic" one can defiantly help.
But only if you are decent looking and have some Game.
You can be "exotic" but still be ugly. And if you can't talk to girls it won't matter anyways
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Roosh - 05-13-2011
He's calling you a troll because your first post here you're trying to start an argument, when the forum rules ask you to take it easy upon registering to get a feel for the forum.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - mikeymike - 05-13-2011
I agree with what the others are saying being exotic in a particular area is just another weapon in the arsenal, if it's the only one you have to play you're still shit out of luck. If you're great looking black dude in the US you're gonna be a great looking black dude anywhere else and if there isn't a lot of competition in your vacation spot you get an extra edge. If you're a great looking white dude with game and you head somewhere there's an abundance of guys who look like you, you'll still get laid cause you're great looking with game but will you have it as easy as you could somewhere else probably not. I would agree with the OP and G that some of these posts like I'm an average looking so and so and everywhere I went in x country the girls pulled their panties down and waved as I went by sounds a bit much but some extra attention I can believe and have experienced. If you're relying on being exotic as your best asset then you may be disappointed but if you have other qualities, good looks and game primarily you're just putting yourself in a favorable position.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - thegmanifesto - 05-13-2011
Quote: (05-13-2011 12:23 PM)Moma Wrote:
Quote: (05-13-2011 11:17 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
I get a little thrown off by some of the "exotic" comments on here too.
Especially these ones:
"Girls were throwing themselves at me"
"Everywhere I was going, girls were eye-f*cking me"
Neither of those happens to me anywhere I go.
What I want to know, is when the above happens, are you swooping?
Surely if girls are throwing themselves at you and eye-f*cking you non-stop, you must be swooping tons, right?
Like 10 girls a day? 20?
Hmmm that's odd...I've been eye-fcuked like crazy and all the forementioned (Winnipeg particularly stands out for me for that memory). It's happened to me and I don't even have your build or your clothes.
Maybe I am taking this terminology that I am not too familiar with too literally.
I mean sure, when I am posting hard, Custom Suited and feeling great in a great spot with more girls than guys, I get a lot of attention.
But "girls throwing themselves at me"? No.
Like The Beatles when they first came to America? No.
Walking around the street during the day and "every girl eye-f*cking me"? No.
How does that even go down?
I know if I was walking around and every girl wanted to swoop me, I would be banging girls out in back alleys during the day. 10 per day minimum.
Sadly that is not the case.
Then again, I have never been to Winnepeg or Thailand.
But for sure neither of those things happened to me in Colombia or anywhere else I have been.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Luckystar - 05-13-2011
Quote: (05-13-2011 12:23 PM)Moma Wrote:
Quote: (05-13-2011 11:17 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
I get a little thrown off by some of the "exotic" comments on here too.
Especially these ones:
"Girls were throwing themselves at me"
"Everywhere I was going, girls were eye-f*cking me"
Neither of those happens to me anywhere I go.
What I want to know, is when the above happens, are you swooping?
Surely if girls are throwing themselves at you and eye-f*cking you non-stop, you must be swooping tons, right?
Like 10 girls a day? 20?
Hmmm that's odd...I've been eye-fcuked like crazy and all the forementioned (Winnipeg particularly stands out for me for that memory). It's happened to me and I don't even have your build or your clothes.
Lol. Moma, Winnipeg bitches are just plain thirsty. Especially if you are from out of town. Not sayin you don't have it locked down, dog.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Bronze - 05-13-2011
Quote: (05-13-2011 02:05 PM)Roosh Wrote:
He's calling you a troll because your first post here you're trying to start an argument, when the forum rules ask you to take it easy upon registering to get a feel for the forum.
Ok man, I see what you mean.
Quote: (05-13-2011 02:19 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
But "girls throwing themselves at me"? No.
Like The Beatles when they first came to America? No.
Walking around the street during the day and "every girl eye-f*cking me"? No.
...
Sadly that is not the case.
This is exactly what I mean. I’m from a country where the majority of women are light-skinned and many are blond. And I’ve got some good-looking Latino friends (one of them used to do model jobs) who do have proper game. They’re doing well with attractive women, but they have to work hard for it (as hard as we locals have to).
These guys do get approached by women in clubs, though in most cases these are not the ones you like to get approached by…
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - MiXX - 05-13-2011
Quote: (05-13-2011 02:49 PM)Bronze Wrote:
I’m from a country where there majority of women are light-skinned and many are blond. And I’ve got some good-looking Latino friends (one of them used to do model jobs) who do have proper game. They’re doing well with attractive women, but they have to work hard for it (as hard as we locals have to).
These guys do get approached by women in clubs, though in most cases these are not the ones you like to get approached by…
And what country is this?
(I'm latino btw)
Mixx
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Bronze - 05-13-2011
Quote: (05-13-2011 02:50 PM)MiXX Wrote:
Quote: (05-13-2011 02:49 PM)Bronze Wrote:
I’m from a country where there majority of women are light-skinned and many are blond. And I’ve got some good-looking Latino friends (one of them used to do model jobs) who do have proper game. They’re doing well with attractive women, but they have to work hard for it (as hard as we locals have to).
These guys do get approached by women in clubs, though in most cases these are not the ones you like to get approached by…
And what country is this?
(I'm latino btw)
Mixx
The one that has taken the third place at the soccer World Cup. As a Latino you should know.
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Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - MiXX - 05-13-2011
Ha! Agreed, German girls do not throw themselves at Latin men; they throw themselves at American Black men.
So, if Enrique Iglesias, and Usher were to walk into a bar together in Germany, it's going to be a lonely night for Enrique. However, if the same guys were both in Poland, Enrique would get the bulk of attention.
I've gone out with a few German girls, and they were too fucking hard to bang. However, my black friends tell me that German girls are their easiest almost guaranteed lays.
So, I guess exoticness does play a factor, but it depends on the location 100%
Mixx
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Yams - 05-13-2011
Quote: (05-13-2011 02:55 PM)Bronze Wrote:
Quote: (05-13-2011 02:50 PM)MiXX Wrote:
Quote: (05-13-2011 02:49 PM)Bronze Wrote:
I’m from a country where there majority of women are light-skinned and many are blond. And I’ve got some good-looking Latino friends (one of them used to do model jobs) who do have proper game. They’re doing well with attractive women, but they have to work hard for it (as hard as we locals have to).
These guys do get approached by women in clubs, though in most cases these are not the ones you like to get approached by…
And what country is this?
(I'm latino btw)
Mixx
The one that has taken the third place at the soccer World Cup. As a Latino you should know.
Perhaps they mistake them for turks?
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Bronze - 05-13-2011
Quote: (05-13-2011 03:00 PM)MiXX Wrote:
Ha! Agreed, German girls do not throw themselves at Latin men; they throw themselves at American Black men.
Being black can both be an advantage or a disadvantage in Germany. Totally depends on the girl's sub-culture/sexual stereotype. If you're black in Germany, I would go to clubs that attract people who are into Hip Hop etc. because here the stereotype will play into your hands.
So it basically comes down to target selection. On this level, being black in Germany is the same like being a biker. You will do well with a certain demographic, but you won't do better overall.
If a black would restrict himself to streetgame and approach EVERY attractive girl, he would not be more successful than a Latino or a local.
Concerning turks: Many turks in Germany would do way better, if they would put some serious work into their fashion sense. No offense against them, but you'll hardly see a top stylish turk in Germany.
Don’t you guys overestimate “being exotic”? - Gringo - 05-13-2011
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women choose man on three criteria: height, looks, and game
Many don't though, thet simply throw themselves at the first foreigner they think will have them. Looks, heigh, game or not.