[Samseau]

I remember guys on this forum were speculating America had hit peak fatness and there was nowhere to go but down. Think again...

Quote:

Obesity rates reach historic highs in more U.S. states

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Rates of adult obesity increased in six U.S. states and fell in none last year, and in more states than ever - 20 - at least 30% of adults are obese, according to an analysis released on Thursday.

The conclusions were reported by the Trust for America's Health and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and were based on federal government data. They suggest the problem may be worsening despite widespread publicity about the nation's obesity epidemic, from First Lady Michelle Obama and many others, plus countless programs to address it.

From 2011 to 2012, by comparison, the rate of obesity increased in only one state.

The 2013 adult obesity rate exceeds 20% in every state, while 42 have rates above 25%. For the first time two states, Mississippi and West Virginia, rose above 35%. The year before, 13 states were above 30% and 41 had rates of at least 25%.

Adult obesity rates increased last year in Alaska, Delaware, Idaho, New Jersey, Tennessee and Wyoming.

Nationally, rates of obesity remained at about one-third of the adult population, according to The State of Obesity: Better Policies for a Healthier America (http://stateofobesity.org), while just over two-thirds are overweight or worse.

Rates of childhood obesity have leveled off, with about one in three 2- to 19-year-olds overweight or obese in 2012, comparable to rates over the last decade.

Continuing a years-long trend, nine of the 10 states with the highest rates of obesity are in the South. The West and Northeast had the healthiest BMIs, with Colorado boasting the lowest adult obesity rate, 21.3%.

Obesity also tracked demographics, with higher rates correlating with poverty, which is associated with lower availability of healthy foods and fewer safe neighborhoods where people can walk and children can play for exercise. For instance, more than 75% of African Americans are overweight or obese, compared with 67.2% of whites.

That pattern affects children, too. In 2012, just over 8% of African American children ages 2 to 19 were severely obese, with a BMI above 40, compared with 3.9% of white children. About 38% of African American children live below the poverty line, while 12% of white children do.

One-third of adults who earn less than $15,000 per year are obese, compared with one-quarter who earn at least $50,000.

"Obesity rates are unacceptably high, and the disparities in rates are profoundly troubling," said Jeffrey Levi, executive director of TFAH.

http://news.yahoo.com/obesity-rates-reac...01918.html

So I guess if you wanted to know how a nation commits suicide, now you know. It's only a matter of time before a huge wave of heart-related diseases come through America and restore the natural balance of non-fat people. Think Lindy West and all of those fatasses in their 30's and 40's. Once age 50 rolls around they are pretty much fucked, no amount of science can save the larders, unless heart replacement surgery becomes cheap and effective.

[Travesty]

My business plan to start a place that sells donuts injected with ice cream is still legit.

[Tuthmosis]

I guess it's time to update this:

[Samseau]

(09-07-2014 11:27 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

I guess it's time to update this:

They need to replace the final picture in the slide with this:

[YossariansRight]

I returned from Europe ~2 weeks ago and although I saw a few fatties there, the contrast to the USA is shocking; even worse than a couple years back.

[Travesty]

Don't let the article fool you when it comes to Colorado. There are plenty of frumpy girls all over.

What tips the scales is the guys are all really thin from mountain/outdoor sports. As such since there are more men and more in shape all the chicks instead of becoming morbidly
obese put on 15-20 extra pounds of beer weight because they don't have to try hard.

[BortimusPrime]

Well the title of the thread made me think of this

[Dusty]

(09-07-2014 11:27 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

I guess it's time to update this:

A whole lot of thyroid conditions going on these days.

[Basil Ransom]

Hey man, I don't know what your problem is. These patriotic Americans are just exercising their God-given freedom, and if they want to live large, you are no one to tell them otherwise.

I just wrote in a similar thread - every single god damn man on this forum would, in point of fact, support sin taxes on sugar.

Thought Exercise
If you gave guys here the choice between a pussy paradise where girls are thin and red velvet cupcakes cost $20 a piece thanks to taxes, versus a place where the girls are fat and junk food is cheap, which do you think they will pick? The hard bodies win every time. You'd have to be a eunuch or, more likely, a retard libertarian, to choose the nation of fat fucks. And if your freedom fighting is confined to campaigning for cheap cokes and twix bars, and not say, free speech and freedom from police abuse, then well, you're rather pathetic.

Of course, there are other avenues for fat reduction, but a simple "we're making you pay more for this shit because it isn't good for you" is effective (if it's sufficiently high - an extra 5 cents for a 25 cent can of Coke won't do much), combined with a media campaign, as was done with smoking.

[Quintus Curtius]

The problem with all of this is that we can't just laugh at these people and go about our merry business.

We're linked to them. We're stuck with them. We're going to end up having to finance their medical insurance, their health problems, and all that.

They're dragging all the rest of us down with them.

[CRR]

That article is clearly fat shaming by pointing out the truth.

And the tax on food won't work since all of the obese women have thyroid problems.

[Sombro]

[Travesty]

Does anyone else agree that since more people are fat, the voting bloc grows and therefore sin taxes are less and less likely and entitlements will grow?

I see no chance of this trend changing until there is scientific advancements to the point that:

A) 0 calorie junk food items that taste just as good as the real thing are created

B) A wonder weight loss drug that is inexpensive and over the counter

[Soothesayer]

The strange thing is this: if these walking fleshloafs would hit the gym three times a week, 20min each, then they would stave off a youngish death but then seem to think if they even step foot on a bike they will keel over dead. 50 is not too old to start. Hell even 60 isn't too old to start. The body repairs itself fairly quickly because it "wakes up" from its twinkie coma and thinks, "Shit, he's excersising again. Better get our shit in gear."

My grandfather died at 55 not because of his one-pack-a-day smoking, but because he had a belly like Boss Hogg.

[scorpion]

The cause of this is simply addiction to processed carbs. I think it's literally impossible to become obese by eating a diet of meats, vegetables, complex carbs and basically any "real" foods. I would like to see someone try to get obese that way. They'd fucking puke their guts out every day if they tried to eat that much food. The problem is these junk foods and soft drinks have enormous caloric density with relatively small portions, so people can sit there and gorge on thousands of calories worth of junk food without really feeling full.

The tragic part about this is what an enormous negative impact even a moderate amount of body fat makes on women's attractiveness. An extra 20-30 lbs. is all it takes to turn the average girl from a 6 to a 3 or 4, which is a huge spread that means the average girl goes from, "Cute enough to date if we get along well," to "Drunken last resort bootycall." Obesity's effect of lowering the average attractiveness of women has the corollary of making the average (now unattractive) woman more miserable and bitchy, and making the women who are still attractive more entitled and bitchy. So now guys are getting shit from both sides when dealing with women: most women are angry because they're unattractive (and feel the effects of that, such as an inability to secure male commitment, whether they admit it or not) and the attractive women think they're God's gift to mankind simply because they don't stuff their faces with donuts all day and manage to attend Pilates class two or three times a week.

Obesity has essentially created a huge distortion in the dating market. Just as the middle class in economic terms has been destroyed in recent decades, we are currently missing a great "middle class" of young women due to the obesity epidemic. The result is a stratified dating market with a small pool of 8+ elite girls who can command increasingly large amounts of attention and money from men, a huge "underclass" of 4s and below who prefer donuts to dick, and the ever-shrinking "middle class" of 5-7s, who until recently comprised the largest group of women.

The result is that it's very difficult for the average man to find a woman attractive and pleasant enough to make him want to commit. He's faced with a vast horde of fat and chubby women on one side and a small number of hot chicks on the other, most of whom realize their increased value in the distorted marketplace, are thus not willing to settle and therefore spend their prime years chasing high-end alpha cock. The shrinking middle class of women thus becomes a battleground where about 70% of men (excluding the top 10% alphas and the bottom 20% low betas/omegas) are battling it out for about 30% of the women (minus the top 10% and the bottom 60% that is ugly, fat or both). Since about half of women pretty much ate themselves out of the dating market, the result has been a relative increase in the SMV of the remaining attractive girls. So the 6 thinks she's an 8, and the 8 thinks she's a 10. And this is simply because the number of attractive women has plummeted while the number of men chasing after them has stayed the same.

This is basically why the modern Western man is so thirsty. His acceptable dating pool is less than half of what it should be, and a large reason for that is due to female obesity.

[Dusty]

(09-07-2014 12:35 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

The cause of this is simply addiction to processed carbs. I think it's literally impossible to become obese by eating a diet of meats, vegetables, complex carbs and basically any "real" foods. I would like to see someone try to get obese that way. They'd fucking puke their guts out every day if they tried to eat that much food. The problem is these junk foods and soft drinks have enormous caloric density with relatively small portions, so people can sit there and gorge on thousands of calories worth of junk food without really feeling full.

The tragic part about this is what an enormous negative impact even a moderate amount of body fat makes on women's attractiveness. An extra 20-30 lbs. is all it takes to turn the average girl from a 6 to a 3 or 4, which is a huge spread that means the average girl goes from, "Cute enough to date if we get along well," to "Drunken last resort bootycall." Obesity's effect of lowering the average attractiveness of women has the corollary of making the average (now unattractive) woman more miserable and bitchy, and making the women who are still attractive more entitled and bitchy. So now guys are getting shit from both sides when dealing with women: most women are angry because they're unattractive (and feel the effects of that, such as an inability to secure male commitment, whether they admit it or not) and the attractive women think they're God's gift to mankind simply because they don't stuff their faces with donuts all day and manage to attend Pilates class two or three times a week.

Obesity has essentially created a huge distortion in the dating market. Just as the middle class in economic terms has been destroyed in recent decades, we are currently missing a great "middle class" of young women due to the obesity epidemic. The result is a stratified dating market with a small pool of 8+ elite girls who can command increasingly large amounts of attention and money from men, a huge "underclass" of 4s and below who prefer donuts to dick, and the ever-shrinking "middle class" of 5-7s, who until recently comprised the largest group of women.

The result is that it's very difficult for the average man to find a woman attractive and pleasant enough to make him want to commit. He's faced with a vast horde of fat and chubby women on one side and a small number of hot chicks on the other, most of whom realize their increased value in the distorted marketplace, are thus not willing to settle and therefore spend their prime years chasing high-end alpha cock. The shrinking middle class of women thus becomes a battleground where about 70% of men (excluding the top 10% alphas and the bottom 20% low betas/omegas) are battling it out for about 30% of the women (minus the top 10% and the bottom 60% that is ugly, fat or both). Since about half of women pretty much ate themselves out of the dating market, the result has been a relative increase in the SMV of the remaining attractive girls. So the 6 thinks she's an 8, and the 8 thinks she's a 10. And this is simply because the number of attractive women has plummeted while the number of men chasing after them has stayed the same.

This is basically why the modern Western man is so thirsty. His acceptable dating pool is less than half of what it should be, and a large reason for that is due to female obesity.

[Basil Ransom]

(09-07-2014 12:35 PM)Soothesayer Wrote:  

The strange thing is this: if these walking fleshloafs would hit the gym three times a week, 20min each, then they would stave off a youngish death but then seem to think if they even step foot on a bike they will keel over dead. 50 is not too old to start. Hell even 60 isn't too old to start. The body repairs itself fairly quickly because it "wakes up" from its twinkie coma and thinks, "Shit, he's excersising again. Better get our shit in gear."

My grandfather died at 55 not because of his one-pack-a-day smoking, but because he had a belly like Boss Hogg.

Americans have an obsession with exercise because their diet is so shitty. If you eat well, you don't need to exercise that much to stay trim. Muscle requires work, thinnness, not so much. And there are plenty of fat fucks who work out but eat poorly, while Europe is full of waifish people who work out little.

As Scorpion said, it's very hard to overeat when your diet is composed of wholesome foods, especially if you abandon bread. Throw a standing desk in the mix if you're an office worker. It's not impossible.

(09-07-2014 12:25 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

Does anyone else agree that since more people are fat, the voting bloc grows and therefore sin taxes are less and less likely and entitlements will grow?

Except their allegiance to being fat is not so clear cut. It's not like say, taxing Hispanics for being Hispanic. They aren't committed to being fat, and if they think the taxes will help them personally, it's possible.

A point for optimism:

Soda taxes are on the ballot in Berkeley and SF. If these pass, money hungry politicians will ape them. At least for once, greedy politicians could work in our favor.

If these don't pass this year, they'll pass somewhere else soon.

The liberal social worker types love these taxes, because the tax revenue is usually shoveled to bullshit 'health awareness' campaigns and the like that give them jobs - we'd be better off cutting other taxes instead, but whatver, take your wins any way you can get them.

http://www.berkeleyside.com/2014/09/04/j...-language/

http://blog.sfgate.com/cityinsider/2014/...nance-law/

While we are paying for obesity, the silver lining is that the government now has a stake in reducing it.

[Dusty]

I see obese people on hoverounds with one hand on the steering wheel and the other holding a giant ice cream cone dipped in chocolate. So fucking fat they can't even walk, yet they are shoving junk food in their mouth that I, a guy weighing 165 lbs, would never touch (though tempted) because I want to be presentable and healthy.

And like someone mentioned, we are paying for this persons gluttony. How can someone like that even work? They are probably on disability. Then they surely have complicated health issues that cost a lot of money that you and I pay for either through our insurance premiums or through medicaid.

[scorpion]

(09-07-2014 01:04 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

I see obese people on hoverounds with one hand on the steering wheel and the other holding a giant ice cream cone dipped in chocolate. So fucking fat they can't even walk, yet they are shoving junk food in their mouth that I, a guy weighing 165 lbs, would never touch (though tempted) because I want to be presentable and healthy.

And like someone mentioned, we are paying for this persons gluttony. How can someone like that even work? They are probably on disability. Then they surely have complicated health issues that cost a lot of money that you and I pay for either through our insurance premiums or through medicaid.

It's important to understand that a lot of people are literally using junk food as a drug. They eat it because they're addicted to the pleasurable feelings they get from consuming it. Junk food is cheap and tastes good, and once you've developed an addiction to it you will crave it. Your palate will adapt to the more intensely flavorful junk foods and will reject non-processed foods as being too bland and tasteless. Your brain will come to expect the dopamine hit and the pleasure you get from eating intensely flavorful junk food. They've done studies on fat people eating junk food and their brains light up when they start eating the same way that crackheads' brains light up when they take a hit from the crack pipe.

I'm not trying to absolve these food addicts of personal responsibility by any means, I'm just trying to clarify why this is a real and persistent problem for so many people. This also illustrates why fat acceptance is such a stupid fucking idea. It would literally be like if we started pushing "alcoholic acceptance" for people who were addicted to drinking, instead of publicly shaming them and trying to help them get treatment.

[berserk]

Something that always has me wondering about American is how you accept that people are morbidly obese. These extremely fat people I have only seen walk around in public abroad. Other nationalities would feel so much shame, there is for most a natural barrier where even lazy fatties stop and realize it's time for a change, but Americans don't. It is surreal that people with one foot in the grave from obesity walk around in public like it's normal. Pointing and laughing would take care of that.

[HawkWrites]

This really doesn't surprise me. Fatasses to the left, fatasses to the right. Christ, I feel like I'm caught in a weird gravitational pull.

[Samseau]

Scorpion, I wouldn't be surprised if the biggest difference between American and foreign dating markets is the obesity epidemic. The fat problems cascade: fat women skew dating market, pretty women become bitchy, men get thirsty and white-knight hardcore, etc. etc.

Would it surprise anyone here if America's fat problem were cured, and suddenly, men no longer had trouble finding girlfriends?

[Captain Gh]

(09-07-2014 01:16 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 01:04 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

I see obese people on hoverounds with one hand on the steering wheel and the other holding a giant ice cream cone dipped in chocolate. So fucking fat they can't even walk, yet they are shoving junk food in their mouth that I, a guy weighing 165 lbs, would never touch (though tempted) because I want to be presentable and healthy.

And like someone mentioned, we are paying for this persons gluttony. How can someone like that even work? They are probably on disability. Then they surely have complicated health issues that cost a lot of money that you and I pay for either through our insurance premiums or through medicaid.

It's important to understand that a lot of people are literally using junk food as a drug. They eat it because they're addicted to the pleasurable feelings they get from consuming it. Junk food is cheap and tastes good, and once you've developed an addiction to it you will crave it. Your palate will adapt to the more intensely flavorful junk foods and will reject non-processed foods as being too bland and tasteless. Your brain will come to expect the dopamine hit and the pleasure you get from eating intensely flavorful junk food. They've done studies on fat people eating junk food and their brains light up when they start eating the same way that crackheads' brains light up when they take a hit from the crack pipe.

I'm not trying to absolve these food addicts of personal responsibility by any means, I'm just trying to clarify why this is a real and persistent problem for so many people. This also illustrates why fat acceptance is such a stupid fucking idea. It would literally be like if we started pushing "alcoholic acceptance" for people who were addicted to drinking, instead of publicly shaming them and trying to help them get treatment.

Nice! It's literally the first time I've read someone using a comparison about alcoholism and fat acceptance! I'd like to hear Big ol Lindy try to refute that hehe !!

[CRR]

What severely compounds the problem with the obesity epidemic is how it is treated in the media. It is anathema to talk about it for two reasons:

1) It is scientifically denied. Funny, the same people who virulently attack people who refuse to vaccinate their kids or deny climate change, when it comes to the science of obesity scream “health at any size” which has no scientific basis whatsoever. At best, it is treated as a he said-she said.
2) They try to brainwash society into thinking it is attractive. Fat women are “real women”, “Beauty comes in all shapes and sizes”, etc. I’m watching football, and literally just saw an ad for a TV show with fat Mindy Kaling and a guy in bed. The guy is fit of course.

Number one is probably more dangerous, because as men we can just say “fuck you, don’t tell us who we should be attracted to, and it certainly isn’t going to be some fat whale”. As has been mentioned by several posters, it flat out costs our society too much and the burden is placed on those of us who stay in shape, work hard, and don’t take disability due to obesity.

[Old Fritz]

(09-07-2014 11:34 AM)Dusty Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 11:27 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

I guess it's time to update this:

A whole lot of thyroid conditions going on these days.

Lol that reminds me. Every time someone points out the obesity they always have an excuse. Thyroid conditions tend to be the most common ones.