[Beyond Borders]

(06-20-2014 10:08 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

In my opinion, the biggest takeaways are:

1) Approach more girls
2) Use simple lines.
3) Be as attractive as possible. (gym, fashion, diet, style, body language, nutrition, sleep, hair, clothes, etc.)
4) Be aggressive about improving your looks.
5) Be aggressive about improving your social skills.

The more pretty girls you approach, the more chances you will have to be happy in life.

Don't forget #6 - leverage college campuses.

Seems like a huge takeaway to me if guys can't even believe these vids are real based on that number of approachable girls.

(06-20-2014 10:22 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I skyped with Chris for 2 hours. He asked a good question, "What could I do to prove the videos are legit?"

That's a great question I always ask during a debate. People like to move the goal posts during debates. They'll ask you 5 questions. You answer those 5 questions, and then they ask 5 more.

What evidence would change the skeptics' minds?

I told him none would.

I'm not one of the doubters at all.

But the obvious answer to that question is to have a credible member, like you or McQueen, accompany him next time for the shoot.

I'm not advocating it or insisting on it, by any means. Just pointing out that it was an option presented and looked over that seems like a pretty reasonable answer to the question if he's that concerned.

In any case, I agree with you that he should just move on and not worry about it too much. If I were him, I'd just keep doing his vids and the people who like them will keep watching.

There's always going to be people who doubt you. We all know that.

Don't sweat it too much, Chris.

[simondice]

(06-20-2014 10:08 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I do this type of game everyday.

This looks like a video of my life.

I don't see anything strange.

- He uses a simple line.
- He's tall, fit, and not ugly
- He is confident
- He can hold a conversation.

That's all that is required to get a phone number from an American college girl.

In my opinion, the biggest takeaways are:

1) Approach more girls
2) Use simple lines.
3) Be as attractive as possible. (gym, fashion, diet, style, body language, nutrition, sleep, hair, clothes, etc.)
4) Be aggressive about improving your looks.
5) Be aggressive about improving your social skills.

The more pretty girls you approach, the more chances you will have to be happy in life.

*****

(06-19-2014 12:15 AM)Krauser Wrote:  

I'd appreciate any experienced US daygamers chiming in with their thoughts.

Krauser,

Like you said, this is America.

On top of that, these are young, college girls.

"Dumbing Down" to their psycho-emotional level is often very effective.

Most of your troubling questions can probably be answered by one word.

"America"

*****

Is the video real or fake?

I haven't thought about it. It doesn't matter to me.

I will say this.. It looks like normal American day game to me.

That's what I thought as well. I've had experiences just like these, some that even looked like they were out of a movie if I were to rehash it later with buddies.
Chris is Authentic, he doesn't need to fake it.

[simondice]

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[jmourinho]

(06-20-2014 10:08 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Like you said, this is America.

On top of that, these are young, college girls.

"Dumbing Down" to their psycho-emotional level is often very effective.

Most of your troubling questions can probably be answered by one word.

"America"

Not to mention intellectual level

[Christian McQueen]

The biggest takeaway from this thread for me are three things:

1. The men of RVF are smart mutherfuckers who have learned to question any kind of media.

2. We can have a CIVIL debate, which is unheard of on any major site or woman's site, and still be congenial with each other. Mad respect.

3. The fact that Roosh and Tuth haven't had to hand out any temp bans means this forum is growing in maturity, and I'm proud of that.

RVF is chocked full of smart men and this is just the beginning.

[soup]

Looking forward to more videos.

It's fun to watch these kinds of videos.. It's like watching sports; if you are in the game, you can see all the subtle shit going on.

[Ensam]

(06-21-2014 08:00 AM)soup Wrote:  

Looking forward to more videos.

It's fun to watch these kinds of videos.. It's like watching sports; if you are in the game, you can see all the subtle shit going on.

Yeah, watching 'infield' videos has raised my game up to the next level. Not so much because I've learned to do what the guys are doing but I've learned how to pay attention to the body language of the girls and gauge their reaction. It's been a huge help in learning when to put more time and energy into a chick (body language says yes despite an unengaged conversation) vs. when to bail (body language says no even though she's enjoying my attention).

[Goldmund]

Clash of the titans on this thread...good shit.

I'm gonna go out right now (noon in NYC) and try the same exact type of 'game' that GLL was using in the vid.

I'm not an ugly dude, Chris is better looking than me, but some girls do find me very attractive...so I think they won't get quite as nervous as the girls in the video.

The hard part will be playing dumb and coy. Chris looked so incredibly bored in the video. I could tell he wanted to ramp up the game but was holding himself back. But I like acting--and what he was doing was an act.

I'm heading to the park right now...will report back in about 3 hrs. Unless I get a bang. Then gimme 3.5

[Captain Gh]

(06-21-2014 10:50 AM)Goldmund Wrote:  

Clash of the titans on this thread...good shit.

I'm gonna go out right now (noon in NYC) and try the same exact type of 'game' that GLL was using in the vid.

I'm not an ugly dude, Chris is better looking than me, but some girls do find me very attractive...so I think they won't get quite as nervous as the girls in the video.

The hard part will be playing dumb and coy. Chris looked so incredibly bored in the video. I could tell he wanted to ramp up the game but was holding himself back. But I like acting--and what he was doing was an act.

I'm heading to the park right now...will report back in about 3 hrs. Unless I get a bang. Then gimme 3.5

Chris admitted that those videos are only for guy with a case of extreme Approach Anxiety, and I'm pretty sure you ain't part of that group. I'm not trying to hate here, but emulating this style of game on purpose to get laid is really a bad idea!

Chris even admitted somewhere in this thread that this was not even an attempt at Game, but just to get guys taking a small step and talking to girls. Since you've mentioned that you're good looking and in NYC, you'd be better off running some Daygame a la Paul Jenka or Krauser style!

[soup]

McCarren park ?

[Goldmund]

Yup McCarren Park, and yes--I am experienced in daygame and am very very direct (Krauser style) so this was only for the experiment...and here are the results:

It was an interesting hour and a half.

I got to the park and was planning on approaching GLL style. But my first approach didn’t work that way. It was a cute girl walking a dog. She had no control over the dog and it was pulling her along. I said “Looks like the dog is taking you for a walk!” and she laughed and explained that it wasn’t her dog, blahblahblah. It was natural daygame, like I usually do.

After I had to tell myself “Goldmund, act like a shy nice guy…think about the GLL video”. So I put on that persona.

Next girl I went up to was sitting under a tree writing in a pad. I walked by with my head cocked, made eye contact, smiled and walked over to her. I said “Hi, I don’t normally do this but I think its great that you are writing with a pen.”

She smiled, acted all nice, we said nothing but pleasantries and had boring chat about kindles. I let her control the conversation, everything was puppies and rainbows--and it felt like a huge act. Said 'nice talking to you' and walked off.

The next girl I went up to was sitting on a towel and tapping her phone. I came up said “hi, I don’t normally do this but I think you are cute and wanted to say hello.”

She smiled said hi, introduced herself, and we had a boring talk about the world cup. Again…I was playing all nice, let her control the conversation—and it felt like a complete act. I got her number and walked away.

Next 2 girls—same thing. Same results, same boring shit, same feeling of incongruence.

So my takaway is this: Chris was putting on an act in his videos. He is not a shy nice guy but was acting like one.

The girls were just playing off of his act.

That’s what females do. They cant help it. That’s why it all seems like it was staged. But if you do act like that the bitches will respond like that.

I think it’s a good way for guys who are socially anxious to get started talking to girls, but for an experienced player the shit will come off like it's just a put-on.

Also—these are American girls—who’s brains are programmed by romantic comedies and television. They are going to act like emotionally stunted retards if you let them.

[lalafufu]

(06-18-2014 07:16 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Just thought of something. Most of the faces of the randoms are blurred out in this vid, but the girls he's hitting on are not blurred out. Did he get their permission or is he showing them without their permission (illegally)?

On his page:

" If you appear in one of these videos and wish to have your identity censored - we will be happy to do so. In fairness, we ask you to provide the EXACT TIMESTAMP where you appear and 2 forms of government issued identification (driver's license, passport, etc.) to verify your identity. Please send requests to legal at good looking loser dot com. Your email will be automatically forwarded directly to my attorney. Serious requests only."

Now this is awfully suspect. In the comment section he says he was daygaming near the University of Washington. I tried to google through Seattle models and a quick search through model mayhem for Seattle but I did not find anything.

I'd also like to know where Chris was daygaming if it was indeed near the University of Washington. I spent a lot of time there, and these women in his video look too attractive to be from the university district.

This is what an 'attractive girl' from the UW looks like:



These true blue 'attractive' UW girls look very different from the girls in his video. Haven't watched his entire video but some of the women he talked to would be out of this world '11s' by UW standards.


All that aside his video is a great for inspiration. The best daygamer I know is endlessly criticized online for having bad looking game. At the end of the day having unimpressive looking game doesn't matter if you're still an effective closer.

[robreke]

(06-21-2014 02:05 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  

Yup McCarren Park, and yes--I am experienced in daygame and am very very direct (Krauser style) so this was only for the experiment...and here are the results:

It was an interesting hour and a half.

I got to the park and was planning on approaching GLL style. But my first approach didn’t work that way. It was a cute girl walking a dog. She had no control over the dog and it was pulling her along. I said “Looks like the dog is taking you for a walk!” and she laughed and explained that it wasn’t her dog, blahblahblah. It was natural daygame, like I usually do.

After I had to tell myself “Goldmund, act like a shy nice guy…think about the GLL video”. So I put on that persona.

Next girl I went up to was sitting under a tree writing in a pad. I walked by with my head cocked, made eye contact, smiled and walked over to her. I said “Hi, I don’t normally do this but I think its great that you are writing with a pen.”

She smiled, acted all nice, we said nothing but pleasantries and had boring chat about kindles. I let her control the conversation, everything was puppies and rainbows--and it felt like a huge act. Said 'nice talking to you' and walked off.

The next girl I went up to was sitting on a towel and tapping her phone. I came up said “hi, I don’t normally do this but I think you are cute and wanted to say hello.”

She smiled said hi, introduced herself, and we had a boring talk about the world cup. Again…I was playing all nice, let her control the conversation—and it felt like a complete act. I got her number and walked away.

Next 2 girls—same thing. Same results, same boring shit, same feeling of incongruence.

So my takaway is this: Chris was putting on an act in his videos. He is not a shy nice guy but was acting like one.

The girls were just playing off of his act.

That’s what females do. They cant help it. That’s why it all seems like it was staged. But if you do act like that the bitches will respond like that.

I think it’s a good way for guys who are socially anxious to get started talking to girls, but for an experienced player the shit will come off like it's just a put-on.

Also—these are American girls—who’s brains are programmed by romantic comedies and television. They are going to act like emotionally stunted retards if you let them.

Your experiment is interesting. Thanks for posting the results. Though you say you felt 'incongruent' doing this, it seems you had good success in getting them to chat and getting the numbers.

Let me ask the only question that really matters.....despite the incongruence....have these women responded to your texts/calls .....or do you feel they will? also...did you feel some attraction from them? ie....what's your thoughts on if they'll lead to dates?

[SoupDuJour]

He's at the Ann Morrison Park in Boise, ID. The girls are from BSU.

Here's the satellite view of the first scene with the bake sale chick:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ann+Mo...17aa4986c5

They start north of the fountain and walk southwest along the rectangular field bordered by the double tree lined paths.

[soup]

Soup du jour - ha is that an hommage to me? I'm flattered. You better get some notches if you want to be part of the soup clan

[WestIndianArchie]

Post of the year.

This was beyond epic.

WIA

[Zep]

(06-21-2014 02:05 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  

Yup McCarren Park, and yes--I am experienced in daygame and am very very direct (Krauser style) so this was only for the experiment...and here are the results:

It was an interesting hour and a half.

I got to the park and was planning on approaching GLL style. But my first approach didn’t work that way. It was a cute girl walking a dog. She had no control over the dog and it was pulling her along. I said “Looks like the dog is taking you for a walk!” and she laughed and explained that it wasn’t her dog, blahblahblah. It was natural daygame, like I usually do.

After I had to tell myself “Goldmund, act like a shy nice guy…think about the GLL video”. So I put on that persona.

<snip>

LOL ...

Reminded me of this piece of gold from 2003 when RSDTyler was in a major creative streak. It's very funny and mirrors your experimenting.

[soup]

Goldmund it can't be all that bad if you snagged a bunch of numbers. What's an example of your usual daygame?

Shit- at the rate we are going in wburg, we might be Eskimo brothers.

Btw, I like that you are evolving that line I came up with. Keep in mind that I said it because I wanted to plant a seed about how I was old fashioned in some ways.. This was a tactic that would allow me to transition into a discussion where I was able to unload my dhv details.

I think it's good if you can say things that have momentum that sets up the next part of the conversation so everything feels natural/organic/justified.. Girls always have their radar on for shit that seems " random" or out if place in the conversation.

Think about times you've heard girls say "that was so random" when talking about something they don't like or something that they think is suspicious or "sketchy".

I think a perfect conversation is one that propels itself.. You can figure out things to say that essentially get the same reactions from all girls. I guess you can call these "god" conversations because you are able to get the same responses from the girls as if you were vantriloquist.

[el mechanico]

(06-21-2014 07:27 PM)SoupDuJour Wrote:  

He's at the Ann Morrison Park in Boise, ID. The girls are from BSU.

Here's the satellite view of the first scene with the bake sale chick:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ann+Mo...17aa4986c5

They start north of the fountain and walk southwest along the rectangular field bordered by the double tree lined paths.

Is that real?

[Eastside]

(06-21-2014 07:27 PM)SoupDuJour Wrote:  

He's at the Ann Morrison Park in Boise, ID. The girls are from BSU.

Ahhh no wonder I couldn't figure out where this was in Seattle. It isn't there! I couldn't help but think I was missing some big piece of information.

[Goldmund]

(06-21-2014 07:17 PM)robreke Wrote:  

Let me ask the only question that really matters.....despite the incongruence....have these women responded to your texts/calls .....or do you feel they will? also...did you feel some attraction from them? ie....what's your thoughts on if they'll lead to dates?

It was incongruent because when I game, I don't let the girl have control and I always, always, always let them know my intention. Daygame means that I'm toned down a bit (At night, I'll say really dirty shit and let girls know I want to fuck), during the day I will say something like "You know the real reason I came over is because of how cute you are, goddamn I can't stop looking at your legs" and then start talking about the nature of attraction.

With the girls today, I just let them talk, and was really holding myself back. Not my steeze.

I do this to filter out the girls who want to fuck. I don't want to have a dull conversation about a kindle or the world cup or dogs. I want to let the girl know that I want her and it happens quick.

These interactions I did get numbers, one girl even had me call her right then and there so she had my number, but I don't really care about getting numbers. I'm not going to get in touch with them--I only set up dates with real beautys--these chicks were cute but not worth the trouble. My nights are much more exciting when I'm hunting for a ONS.

And @soup, I would be very surprised if we were NOT eskimo bros, I bump into ex-bangs all the time. They frequent the bars around here.

[soup]

I haven't been to McCarren in a while. What is the quality if talent there these days usually? Is it mostly plain janes?

Do you ever try macking at the pool?

[Goldmund]

McCarren is great nowadays man, do it!

There are a lot of foreign girls there during the day, just hanging out being bored tourists...show them some excitement around town.

Never been to the pool, I hate public pools.

[SoupDuJour]

(06-21-2014 09:14 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Is that real?

100% certain.

Look at minute 27:08 of the footage where he approaches the girl with a dog. You can see the playground and disabled parking spot. It matches exactly with this street view:

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.61193,-1...ig88Ww!2e0

Plus all the cars have Idaho license plates.

[el mechanico]

I'm confused here.. So it was L.A then Washington now Idaho???

Fucking Idaho???? That's where I buy my pristine bikes from.

They do say.. Don't tell anyone. I was planning my next trip there out of curiosity

I have not read this entire thread even though I've ran my big mouth. Can anyone explain the location thing for me?