[Saweeep]

(12-01-2014 04:15 PM)britchard Wrote:  

I'm deep in the millennial generation, and there are several other problems I see regularly which I don't think have been posted here yet.

-People who pretend to be nice, friendly and liberalist are actually the nastiest people I know of. I've seen them conpletely go out of their way to be mean to someone, just to get social approval. These aren't your classic 'bullies' either.

This is a very good point,

Passive aggression is the new norm.

A symptom of over feminised men unable to say boo to a goose.

[El Chinito loco]

(12-02-2014 01:27 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

You mean like the ones who choose to live in lily-white cities like Porkland, Oregon and then get on their high horse and preach to those of us in the Baltimore-DC region about race?

I'd also add Seattle, Denver, and all other strongholds of new modern liberal progressivism. The ironic thing is when you ask a lot of these people that live in those cities they actually left CA for various "reasons" which they will beat around the bush about. I don't blame them for that but I do blame them for being extremely hypocritical about it.

Portland liberals are basically dopey caricatures but if you want interact with insufferable retards then go to Seattle.

[infowarrior1]

(04-12-2014 10:32 AM)The Father Wrote:  

I'm sure this post won't be that popular with Millenials, which is probably a big part of this board's demographic. The point of my post isn't to troll or to offend.

I literally had two grown men cry in my office this week. Both are early thiries. They are very bright, making well into the 6 figures. I don't want to get into too much detail for anonymity reasons, but let's just say neither was terminated or reprimanded in any way. But you would think they were just told they had 2 months to live! Bawling like babies.

I talked to a senior executive at another company. He tells me that he sees it, too - his firm even hired a psychologist to create programs to retain Millenials because they turn over so much.

In some ways, the technology this generation grew up has made them better multi-taskers. I didn't grow up with the internet and a cellphone in one hand and a video game in the other and a twitter feed on the screen in front of me. But this generation also grew up playing soccer without keeping score ("Cause everyone's a WINNER!") and getting trophies for crossing the street. I suppose it was purportedly to build self-esteem, but I find the opposite: Because these kids were shielded from adversity, I find they have not developed self-confidence, which largely derives from overcoming adversity. Self-confidence is the root of self-esteem.

The men on this forum seem to be a smarter, tougher, red-pill subset of today's population, so please understand I'm not insulting any of you. Do YOU find that when you deal with today's late 20/early 30-somethings, it's like dealing with a BUNCH OF PUSSIES? You know, getting teary-eyed is one thing (Speaker of the House John Boehner does it all the time), but wailing like a woman who just found out her husband died? Would you do that at work? In your bosses office? Over little shit?

As a millenial I have admit I am a crybaby. When a person hates me and looks at me with eyes that threaten violence, and when I pitied myself for being unliked and hated in my blue-pill days(as well as crying over trivial shit I don't want to go into details about). I bulked up but certain circumstances revealed to me that I am still a crybaby. I am also easily scared both as a child and even now as a 20 yo man.

Training to become more physically stronger does not seem to instill in me greater courage or toughness. I just wish there was a way to instill masculinity in myself in the modern era. And live up to the virtues that the ROK articles by Quintus Curtius(And others like him) extolls.

I speak this a former leftist(from cultural conditioning) doing a total 180 after ''Game" provided a gateway drug into the manosphere.

[The Beast1]

(12-02-2014 08:25 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

(04-12-2014 10:32 AM)The Father Wrote:  

I'm sure this post won't be that popular with Millenials, which is probably a big part of this board's demographic. The point of my post isn't to troll or to offend.

I literally had two grown men cry in my office this week. Both are early thiries. They are very bright, making well into the 6 figures. I don't want to get into too much detail for anonymity reasons, but let's just say neither was terminated or reprimanded in any way. But you would think they were just told they had 2 months to live! Bawling like babies.

I talked to a senior executive at another company. He tells me that he sees it, too - his firm even hired a psychologist to create programs to retain Millenials because they turn over so much.

In some ways, the technology this generation grew up has made them better multi-taskers. I didn't grow up with the internet and a cellphone in one hand and a video game in the other and a twitter feed on the screen in front of me. But this generation also grew up playing soccer without keeping score ("Cause everyone's a WINNER!") and getting trophies for crossing the street. I suppose it was purportedly to build self-esteem, but I find the opposite: Because these kids were shielded from adversity, I find they have not developed self-confidence, which largely derives from overcoming adversity. Self-confidence is the root of self-esteem.

The men on this forum seem to be a smarter, tougher, red-pill subset of today's population, so please understand I'm not insulting any of you. Do YOU find that when you deal with today's late 20/early 30-somethings, it's like dealing with a BUNCH OF PUSSIES? You know, getting teary-eyed is one thing (Speaker of the House John Boehner does it all the time), but wailing like a woman who just found out her husband died? Would you do that at work? In your bosses office? Over little shit?

As a millenial I have admit I am a crybaby. When a person hates me and looks at me with eyes that threaten violence, and when I pitied myself for being unliked and hated in my blue-pill days(as well as crying over trivial shit I don't want to go into details about). I bulked up but certain circumstances revealed to me that I am still a crybaby. I am also easily scared both as a child and even now as a 20 yo man.

Training to become more physically stronger does not seem to instill in me greater courage or toughness. I just wish there was a way to instill masculinity in myself in the modern era. And live up to the virtues that the ROK articles by Quintus Curtius(And others like him) extolls.

The fact you're at least trying means you know a good hustle when you see it. I don't know your background info, but the post resonates with me when I was your age (only a mere 5 years ago). It gets a little better day by day, but it's never complete. You just get better at dealing with 98% of the recurring bullshit. The other 2% are those annoying hard way lessons.

At least life gets better with age.

[infowarrior1]

(12-02-2014 08:30 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

(12-02-2014 08:25 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

(04-12-2014 10:32 AM)The Father Wrote:  

I'm sure this post won't be that popular with Millenials, which is probably a big part of this board's demographic. The point of my post isn't to troll or to offend.

I literally had two grown men cry in my office this week. Both are early thiries. They are very bright, making well into the 6 figures. I don't want to get into too much detail for anonymity reasons, but let's just say neither was terminated or reprimanded in any way. But you would think they were just told they had 2 months to live! Bawling like babies.

I talked to a senior executive at another company. He tells me that he sees it, too - his firm even hired a psychologist to create programs to retain Millenials because they turn over so much.

In some ways, the technology this generation grew up has made them better multi-taskers. I didn't grow up with the internet and a cellphone in one hand and a video game in the other and a twitter feed on the screen in front of me. But this generation also grew up playing soccer without keeping score ("Cause everyone's a WINNER!") and getting trophies for crossing the street. I suppose it was purportedly to build self-esteem, but I find the opposite: Because these kids were shielded from adversity, I find they have not developed self-confidence, which largely derives from overcoming adversity. Self-confidence is the root of self-esteem.

The men on this forum seem to be a smarter, tougher, red-pill subset of today's population, so please understand I'm not insulting any of you. Do YOU find that when you deal with today's late 20/early 30-somethings, it's like dealing with a BUNCH OF PUSSIES? You know, getting teary-eyed is one thing (Speaker of the House John Boehner does it all the time), but wailing like a woman who just found out her husband died? Would you do that at work? In your bosses office? Over little shit?

As a millenial I have admit I am a crybaby. When a person hates me and looks at me with eyes that threaten violence, and when I pitied myself for being unliked and hated in my blue-pill days(as well as crying over trivial shit I don't want to go into details about). I bulked up but certain circumstances revealed to me that I am still a crybaby. I am also easily scared both as a child and even now as a 20 yo man.

Training to become more physically stronger does not seem to instill in me greater courage or toughness. I just wish there was a way to instill masculinity in myself in the modern era. And live up to the virtues that the ROK articles by Quintus Curtius(And others like him) extolls.

The fact you're at least trying means you know a good hustle when you see it. I don't know your background info, but the post resonates with me when I was your age (only a mere 5 years ago). It gets a little better day by day, but it's never complete. You just get better at dealing with 98% of the recurring bullshit. The other 2% are those annoying hard way lessons.

At least life gets better with age.

I got the book called "The Game" by Neil Strauss as well as Gary Brodsky to thank for starting me on the path leading to the manosphere and changing my life.

[Cyr]

I am 18, (so right in the thick of the topics being discussed in this thread), and here are the main things I can think of:

- An extreme (irrational) fear of discussing politically incorrect topics, and being outed as a bigot, or racist, sexist etc. Even though my parents are both very unPC, I have this to a certain extent. I was in the doctors office a couple of months ago getting a check up for STDs, and after speaking to me and getting a rundown of my recent sexual history, (basically fucking sluts all summer) the 40yo doctor assumed he could talk freely. He made a bunch of jokes about how I needed a new girl 'fresh out of the showroom' etc. and although I thought it was cool, it wouldn't occur to me (or most of my friends) to talk about anything remotely controversial with a stranger. This sort of irrational fear is something I'm trying to combat.

- Being worried about thinking for yourself (ie actually using initiative) and being wrong. I suffer from this and am trying to get over it, but almost all guys my age struggle to be impulsive and take the initiative (even if it's wrong). This goes back to what Strikeback was saying about not helping cook- for whatever reason young men aren't that decisive/ willing to trust their instincts and just act. I think this comes from having authority figures (parents, teachers etc) who are happy to 'baby' kids without making them ever think for themselves.

- Being highly risk averse. This links to the above point. During my Gap Year I wanted to start a removals/ house moving company. I already had the van, and we would just be doing cash in hand work on weekends for the extended network of people we know. Although I ended up starting the company, I had a lot of trouble convincing my friends to join and anyone I told about it, tried to shit on my idea. (Even though it had almost no running costs and was guaranteed to make money). I'm more willing to take financial risks than most people I know, and this isn't as much of an ingrained problem for me as the previous two points.

[TheWastelander]

(12-02-2014 08:25 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

(04-12-2014 10:32 AM)The Father Wrote:  

I'm sure this post won't be that popular with Millenials, which is probably a big part of this board's demographic. The point of my post isn't to troll or to offend.

I literally had two grown men cry in my office this week. Both are early thiries. They are very bright, making well into the 6 figures. I don't want to get into too much detail for anonymity reasons, but let's just say neither was terminated or reprimanded in any way. But you would think they were just told they had 2 months to live! Bawling like babies.

I talked to a senior executive at another company. He tells me that he sees it, too - his firm even hired a psychologist to create programs to retain Millenials because they turn over so much.

In some ways, the technology this generation grew up has made them better multi-taskers. I didn't grow up with the internet and a cellphone in one hand and a video game in the other and a twitter feed on the screen in front of me. But this generation also grew up playing soccer without keeping score ("Cause everyone's a WINNER!") and getting trophies for crossing the street. I suppose it was purportedly to build self-esteem, but I find the opposite: Because these kids were shielded from adversity, I find they have not developed self-confidence, which largely derives from overcoming adversity. Self-confidence is the root of self-esteem.

The men on this forum seem to be a smarter, tougher, red-pill subset of today's population, so please understand I'm not insulting any of you. Do YOU find that when you deal with today's late 20/early 30-somethings, it's like dealing with a BUNCH OF PUSSIES? You know, getting teary-eyed is one thing (Speaker of the House John Boehner does it all the time), but wailing like a woman who just found out her husband died? Would you do that at work? In your bosses office? Over little shit?

As a millenial I have admit I am a crybaby. When a person hates me and looks at me with eyes that threaten violence, and when I pitied myself for being unliked and hated in my blue-pill days(as well as crying over trivial shit I don't want to go into details about). I bulked up but certain circumstances revealed to me that I am still a crybaby. I am also easily scared both as a child and even now as a 20 yo man.

Training to become more physically stronger does not seem to instill in me greater courage or toughness. I just wish there was a way to instill masculinity in myself in the modern era. And live up to the virtues that the ROK articles by Quintus Curtius(And others like him) extolls.

I speak this a former leftist(from cultural conditioning) doing a total 180 after ''Game" provided a gateway drug into the manosphere.

Maybe you should try learning boxing or some other combat art so you know what you're capable of, can improve yourself, and can build confidence in that area.

Then you won't have reason to be afraid of some faggot who gives you a dirty look.

[The Beast1]

To the millennials in this thread,

You can in fact talk about non-pc subjects if you offer a well thought out solution to the problem.

I have a lot of success winning people over this way. Be unapologetic for calling a spade a spade. You will get a lot of people looking at you like you're insane, but at least you have a solution to the problem.

[Foolsgo1d]

(11-28-2014 07:49 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 07:36 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

I read this thread and concluded you guys hang around way too many limp-wristed males. Go to the zoo for a while and bask in some testosterone.

That's the point of this thread. We're complaining about failures that are of our sex.

You're complaining about people in general from what I have read in this thread.

Every generation has its problems, millennials are no exception. But these same millennials are for the most part not causing major issues except for relationship breakdowns and boredom.

If you get bored of your age group, find another. If you want to find interesting people in your age group go out and find them doing interesting things, and this does not include going out and getting pissed up. I don't see the point in moaning about all sorts of issues which were not a consequence of being born at a certain date.

I'd rather be in my generation than those before or after.

[Jazzman92]

Man this thread is really eye opening for me as a millennial. Many of these posts are things I've seen but never really thought about. I've never been so thankful that my parents were strict. I tell my Mom all the time, she's probably more alpha than 90% of the men my age.


Also here's an article I saw posted on Facebook. It reminded me of this thread

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/Mickey-goo...mg00000063

[DChambers]

I'll add my 2 cents to this discussion. I'm 18 as well. A lot of the traits being attributed to millennials are true, however it can very greatly depending on your location. I grew up on a farm and in very rural areas. We were and still are tough as nails in most circumstances. However I've been staying in a small city for the past few months and I have noticed some of these less than desirable traits in a few my local peers.

I think there is a gap between millennials in their mid to late 20's and those still in their teens. They've somewhat bucked the establishment narrative and have taken on a few more red pill traits than their older constituents. It could also be that I am just running in some lower/working class circles and they've been less affected by cultural Marxism.

[The Reactionary Tree]

(12-02-2014 01:06 PM)DChambers Wrote:  

I'll add my 2 cents to this discussion. I'm 18 as well. A lot of the traits being attributed to millennials are true, however it can very greatly depending on your location. I grew up on a farm and in very rural areas. We were and still are tough as nails in most circumstances. However I've been staying in a small city for the past few months and I have noticed some of these less than desirable traits in a few my local peers.

I think there is a gap between millennials in their mid to late 20's and those still in their teens. They've somewhat bucked the establishment narrative and have taken on a few more red pill traits than their older constituents. It could also be that I am just running in some lower/working class circles and they've been less affected by cultural Marxism.

18 year olds aware of Cultural Marxism. I'm so proud. Hope for America

[Travesty]

(11-30-2014 07:50 PM)DrewP Wrote:  

I'm in the millenial age group myself. I've observed that the following are the defining characteristics of millenials:

-The whole concept of girls going out but wanting to be left alone by guys (my parents literally can't comprehend this)

This is the one that really raped the cat!

All you older guys may have to deal with it now but from puberty onward dealing with girls in general attention whoring through technology and giving average to above average guys almost no attention or validation, only the top males and even from my junior high and high school days I can remember those top males getting shit test after shit test to hold frame.

An extremely dismissive and "we can do with out you" vibe is almost sinister.

This one really fucked it all.

[The Father]

(12-02-2014 10:53 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

An extremely dismissive and "we can do with out you" vibe is almost sinister.

This one really fucked it all.

...just remember who gets the last laugh...women my age are invisible to any man on the planet...but I date women who could almost be these girl's daughters

[The Reactionary Tree]

(12-02-2014 10:53 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 07:50 PM)DrewP Wrote:  

I'm in the millenial age group myself. I've observed that the following are the defining characteristics of millenials:

-The whole concept of girls going out but wanting to be left alone by guys (my parents literally can't comprehend this)

This is the one that really raped the cat!

All you older guys may have to deal with it now but from puberty onward dealing with girls in general attention whoring through technology and giving average to above average guys almost no attention or validation, only the top males and even from my junior high and high school days I can remember those top males getting shit test after shit test to hold frame.

An extremely dismissive and "we can do with out you" vibe is almost sinister.

This one really fucked it all.

The Bonobo Masturbation society is becoming a reality day by day. Marriage is deteriorating more and more. Children are being born out of wedlock more and more. Only the top tier of men are getting the fucks and the rest of guys are incels, FTLs, MGTOWs, cucks who wank their misery away to sites like PornHub and/or sex dolls.

[BodiPUA]

This thread is fucking genius. (although admittedly I only read the first, second and last post as per usual).

Yes, Millenials in the outside world in the Anglosphere who are middle class are like some kind of genetically engineered sub-race of useless straight faggots. They're half aspergers and can barely function: like Singaporeans.

[WalterBlack]

Just this morning I heard at work:

• 3 males spend 45 min talking about the stuff served in the Starbucks bakery
• 2 males spend 20 mins talking about $300 sweaters
• 1 male and 1 female (a Persian 5) spend 10 mins talking about handbags which cost $2,000. They both go online and check out handbag designs.
  

This is the kind of faggotry I have to overhear on a daily basis. They’re also all from pretty wealthy backgrounds and call each other “homey”. I never involve myself in their conversations.

My 40 year old female co-worker in the cube can hear all this shit too. She says that hearing these guys speak is like listening to a bunch of women. She also thinks the younger generation of men are bunch of spoiled faggots. She said, "Why are all of these young guys talking about woman's stuff? What's wrong with them?"

[The Father]

(12-03-2014 08:31 PM)BodiPUA Wrote:  

They're half aspergers and can barely function: like Singaporeans.

LOL

[RandomGuy1]

You guys discuss all about the downside of this generation.

Like every coin this one has also two sides and I'm interested in what you think about could be some advantages of this young people. Any thoughts?

Maybe this can lead to a less conflict ridden worldwide politic because the Millenials are more or less unable to be "aggressive". Also I think they try to think and act more prospective in general regarding this planet.

The aggressors / politicians of this world will oneday "retire" and the next replacement is quasi the Millenials.

[Brian Shima]

I think this is really a majority white collar and white thing?

[TigerMandingo]

(12-04-2014 07:52 AM)RandomGuy1 Wrote:  

Maybe this can lead to a less conflict ridden worldwide politic because the Millenials are more or less unable to be "aggressive". Also I think they try to think and act more prospective in general regarding this planet.

Good point. The baby boomers, with their mental aggression, greed, and callous behavior, are the real problem here. Things will begin to heal once they start dying off en masse. The Millenials, despite their pussified nature, are less gung-ho and more amicable than the previous generations. I'm optimistic about them.

[Travesty]

I'll say this for us millenials.

All you older fucks are usually a pain to work for. The older the worse. I would turn down a job if my boss was 50 or older most likely. The younger my bosses have been the cooler and more understand overall to motivate me to be more productive.

The older bosses are about face-time and their budget. No regard to living a good life and being productive.

The future will be bright and work will be better for those with the skills to obtain a decent job working for millenials that "get it", more when it comes on how to have a work-life balance with productivity.

I can't wait for all the people in management in their 50s right now to retire and die off. Good riddance!

[The Reactionary Tree]

(12-04-2014 07:52 AM)RandomGuy1 Wrote:  

You guys discuss all about the downside of this generation.

Like every coin this one has also two sides and I'm interested in what you think about could be some advantages of this young people. Any thoughts?

Maybe this can lead to a less conflict ridden worldwide politic because the Millenials are more or less unable to be "aggressive". Also I think they try to think and act more prospective in general regarding this planet.

The aggressors / politicians of this world will oneday "retire" and the next replacement is quasi the Millenials.

No. This will lead to cowardice. They are softer than shit and weak. They are too weak to oppose their enemies. Whether we like it or not, Radical Islam is a threat to the West and always will be (yes we instigated a lot of it with our interventionist foreign policy over the years). However, the toothpaste is out of the tube and we have to deal with it. Simply trying to make peace with our enemies will only invite further aggression. The unwillingness to stand up for our own interests is a sign of weakness. Our generation lacks the balls to hold the line against the enemies of our respective nations.

[Constitution45]

(12-04-2014 07:52 AM)RandomGuy1 Wrote:  

You guys discuss all about the downside of this generation.

Like every coin this one has also two sides and I'm interested in what you think about could be some advantages of this young people. Any thoughts?

Maybe this can lead to a less conflict ridden worldwide politic because the Millenials are more or less unable to be "aggressive". Also I think they try to think and act more prospective in general regarding this planet.

The aggressors / politicians of this world will oneday "retire" and the next replacement is quasi the Millenials.

To make money and travel is incredibly easy now, probably more easier than ever before with the internet, cheap flights. Of course not many people or have the means to take this up, but I have seen a lot of people my age (22) really accomplish a lot in terms of traveling, setting up businesses etc.

I suppose this is another example of post modernism, you can create what you want to be. I would say though that most people don't have the energy or focus to channel that. The ones who can though, really have the ability to build something for themselves.

Im not sure about the lack of aggression. In one sense this is good, people being more willing to make compromises. However this is usually follows with passive aggression. It has to be remembered that aggression & competitiveness, are not bed fellows that should be banished, for they serve an important use. They just need to be channelled in the correct way and civilised in a sense.

Still on a whole, the most successful people that I have seen make the most of this "information age" often came from international backgrounds. Where there was a culture of success and certain element of traditionalism present. I think the combination of those can really be a wonderful thing.

No society or stage of a civilisation is going to be perfect. The dating culture is messed up. Coming from the U.K, I complete understand and see that. The resentment that is growing between men and women, along with this "fuck men" attitude that is being passed down to young girls is going to have some very negative consequences. I do see hope however, even the mainland continental Europe doesn't seem to be so severe when it comes to this sort of attitude and behaviour. I believe this is some mutation of protestantism hence why its so predominant in the Anglosphere.

As for guys who are still struggling to come to terms with this. Just remember they are dysfunctional people, end of, not just dysfunctional but very shit people.

[AnonymousBosch]

(12-04-2014 11:18 AM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  

Maybe this can lead to a less conflict ridden worldwide politic because the Millenials are more or less unable to be "aggressive". Also I think they try to think and act more prospective in general regarding this planet.

No. The millennials are hugely passive-aggressive. Social justice is simply mob violence enacted behind the safety of a screen. The potential for social and economic destruction is just as great.

They still use the threat of violence to get their way. This is why they want the state to have more power.