[lskdfjldsf]

After 6 years of living in Germany and the UK, I finally came home to visit family and friends in the small town outside of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. where I grew up. So much has changed here for the good, I'm compelled to write a post and hopefully shed some light on what I see as very positive indicators in the US.

This post touches on several topics, so I'm sticking it in the "Everything Else" section.

The Economy

My small town, and most others in the tri-state area (Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia) suffered tremendously following the death of the steel and coal industries during the 1970's and 1980's. My town (with a population of 5,000 in 1980 and just over 2,000 today) once had a well-financed high school, public swimming pool, parks, and other attractions which shut down gradually as blue collar families left for neighboring cities.

Since I left for Germany in 2007, many of these attractions have returned. Our high school doubled in size, adding a new auditorium, football stadium, as well as a new wing to house a growing student body. Even our football team jumped up two divisions - from A, to AAA - given the returning population. My town has always been a white trash, rural slum. It's all I've known here.

Why has it changed? Fracking and natural gas.

Six-digit jobs are plentiful here for anyone with an average work ethic and a pickup truck. High school students graduate without even considering going to college - they don't need to. Our unemployment rate has hit the floor, and some of the poorest families I know now have new houses as a result of fracking and gas jobs. Additionally, many have sold their enormous tracts of land to companies looking to frack and mine.

I've been ashamed of the US for so long, I forgot what it was like to actually be proud of the people I grew up with. People are making money and improving their lives, and even over the course of 6 years, the difference is remarkable.

Women

Tinder is the new norm. Swiping through, I recognized quite a few high school colleagues and even the hot younger sisters of girls I banged in my jock glory days. It's a common app here and expedites the dating process in an area where a first date is a 45 minute drive to the closest restaurant or commercial center.

Many colleges in neighboring small towns have added nursing programs, so there's a huge influx of outside girls (especially NY and Texas) who love country boys and our culture here.

I can't stress this enough - there's an enormous divide between American women in cities, and American women in small towns. The "doom and gloom" on this forum seems to stem from judging American women in NYC, LA, and other metropolitan areas where feminism has truly taken root. Out here, half the girls don't know what feminism is, let alone implement any of it's talking points into their lives. Here, women are women, and men are men. That hasn't changed and I hope it never will.

Game

I've been fortunate enough - with the help of ROK and this forum - to have captured most European flags in Germany and the UK. It's a different ball game entirely, and in my opinion, it's much harder to game European girls than it is American girls in small towns.

Girls here are genuine and straightforward. They're reluctant to toss you shit tests, and they take pride in being feminine, while still knowing how to drive a tractor or skin a deer. If you can do well in Europe, you will KILL IT in rural America. My advice is to venture out of the metropolitan cultural wastelands and Tinder it up in the country.

I was quite surprised to see traditionalism alive and well here after 6 years. When most cities have turned into desolate, feminist-ridden swamps, my small town has stayed the exact same and improved in most other areas.

[Faust]

It's really a relief to read some upbeat news. Sometimes this forum is gloomy enough to make the teletubbies consider suicide.
Thanks for taking the time to share this.

[Travesty]

What is the average weight and quality of girls out there? From most guys I have met that have moved from those types of places the few hot girls are locked down. The rest leave town.

[lskdfjldsf]

(04-02-2014 06:20 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

What is the average weight and quality of girls out there? From most guys I have met that have moved from those types of places the few hot girls are locked down. The rest leave town.

Better than London, on average. You see some absolute stunners there (more so than any other city in Europe), but the overwhelming majority of girls look like they have downs syndrome and haven't slept in a week.

We have better diets in PA, lots of deer meat and corn. The guys here are generally jacked, and the girls have much nicer hips/legs than other regions.

[Flavius Aetius]

Glad to hear there is still hope in some areas. Too bad so many people are still against fracking. It has been a boom for the US economy and will eventually lead to complete energy independence if the environmentalists don't stop it.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(04-02-2014 06:02 PM)Blick Mang Wrote:  

I was quite surprised to see traditionalism alive and well here after 6 years. When most cities have turned into desolate, feminist-ridden swamps, my small town has stayed the exact same and improved in most other areas.

this, has also shocked me in a way; how american women in the more rural and interior of the US are way more different to the metropolitan coastal girls. the more conservative and rural the place is, the more talent and better quality I see.

places that truly suck are suburbs of metro areas; these areas have nothing to do with the same shitty women you see in bars/clubs in places like LA, NYC, Miami, the Bay Area, etc.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(04-02-2014 06:33 PM)Flavius Aetius Wrote:  

Glad to hear there is still hope in some areas. Too bad so many people are still against fracking. It has been a boom for the US economy and will eventually lead to complete energy independence if the environmentalists don't stop it.

environmentalists are mostly active in places like California. I don't think they will shut down in places like ND or Pennsylvania. besides, the money to made is very lucrative that locals might chase out those tree hugging liberals back to their home cities.

[Deluge]

(04-02-2014 06:41 PM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 06:02 PM)Blick Mang Wrote:  

I was quite surprised to see traditionalism alive and well here after 6 years. When most cities have turned into desolate, feminist-ridden swamps, my small town has stayed the exact same and improved in most other areas.

this, has also shocked me in a way; how american women in the more rural and interior of the US are way more different to the metropolitan coastal girls. the more conservative and rural the place is, the more talent and better quality I see.

places that truly suck are suburbs of metro areas; these areas have nothing to do with the same shitty women you see in bars/clubs in places like LA, NYC, Miami, the Bay Area, etc.

Really? Where I am rural areas have absolutely awful awful quality. The girls are all fat, busted or manly as hell. All the cute and smart girls move away after high school to come to the big cities for university and never move back. The wealthy areas of the major cities have the hottest women hands down.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(04-02-2014 06:56 PM)Deluge Wrote:  

Really? Where I am rural areas have absolutely awful awful quality. The girls are all fat, busted or manly as hell. All the cute and smart girls move away after high school to come to the big cities for university and never move back. The wealthy areas of the major cities have the hottest women hands down.

depends on the rural areas; places like ND, Nebraska, etc; of course, they will have sucky talent since your average jane wants to go where the "action" is. I guess I need to be clearer in what I said. the coastal cities are the worst in the attitudes.


but to say the wealthy areas of the major cities have the hottest girls, well, that can vary. the wealthy areas of SF have pretty low talent to be honest unless you have Stage 4 Yellow Fever. then again, it also depends what type do you want.

[vinman]

That's fucking beautiful man…… Thank God for country girls.

   

[Bobco]

There is a lot of real talent in flyover country.

[The Beast1]

OP i grew up in Washington. That place has been decimated by the lack of jobs. That's good to know it's bringing back something. I remember going through Purchase Line and seeing how dead it was.

It's good to hear the heartland has blood flowing again.

[The Father]

(04-02-2014 06:28 PM)Blick Mang Wrote:  

Better than London, on average. You see some absolute stunners there (more so than any other city in Europe), but the overwhelming majority of girls look like they have downs syndrome and haven't slept in a week.

Wh-wh-what?? Spent lots of time in London. Also, Prague, Warsaw, Budapest, Bratislava, Paris, and a few others. The only hot girls I saw in London were from CEE.

As for American girls being less fake than European girls, this also has me at a loss...perhaps the difference is that you are speaking of rural American girls, vs. the girls in European cities. I agree that, anywhere you go, the city skanks will be more jaded. But the country-side girls in central and eastern Europe, if you could speak a little of their language, were far simpler than even rural American girls. I went to school in central Pennsylvania and got to know a lot of small town PA girls. Wouldn't compare them to girls in any country east of Austria.

[RawGod]

Somehow with the flow of stories like these, RoK posts going viral, and a few other small signs in the media, I really have a feeling in my gut that the tide is turning. After all, obesity has plateaued. I think attractive women are more and more wanting to be feminine and differentiate themselves from their fat and feminist sisters. And I think Obama-era liberalism has peaked. What comes next culturally won't be a return to some golden age, it may not be entirely to our liking, and it won't come overnight, but a new and refreshing era is on the way.

[The Father]

(04-02-2014 08:44 PM)RawGod Wrote:  

Somehow with the flow of stories like these, RoK posts going viral, and a few other small signs in the media, I really have a feeling in my gut that the tide is turning. After all, obesity has plateaued. I think attractive women are more and more wanting to be feminine and differentiate themselves from their fat and feminist sisters. And I think Obama-era liberalism has peaked. What comes next culturally won't be a return to some golden age, it may not be entirely to our liking, and it won't come overnight, but a new and refreshing era is on the way.

God, I admire your optimism! Maybe what's changed is that men are finally realizing it is better to not be married! The only reason, I see, to get married in the past was to have sex and have kids. But today, there is FAR more sex outside of marriage than inside it. And kids? I love kids, but you know you are playing with a live hand grenade if you have kids: You could end up seeing them 2x a month and paying THOUSANDS to an ex-bitch for the privilege. Seems like a far better deal to stay single, chase tail, and pursue your own enlightenment. And maybe that's why men are getting happier...we are throwing off the raw deal women foisted on us the last 30-40 years.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(04-02-2014 10:00 PM)The Father Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 08:44 PM)RawGod Wrote:  

Somehow with the flow of stories like these, RoK posts going viral, and a few other small signs in the media, I really have a feeling in my gut that the tide is turning. After all, obesity has plateaued. I think attractive women are more and more wanting to be feminine and differentiate themselves from their fat and feminist sisters. And I think Obama-era liberalism has peaked. What comes next culturally won't be a return to some golden age, it may not be entirely to our liking, and it won't come overnight, but a new and refreshing era is on the way.

God, I admire your optimism! Maybe what's changed is that men are finally realizing it is better to not be married! The only reason, I see, to get married in the past was to have sex and have kids. But today, there is FAR more sex outside of marriage than inside it. And kids? I love kids, but you know you are playing with a live hand grenade if you have kids: You could end up seeing this 2x a month and paying THOUSANDS to an ex-bitch for the privilege. Seems like a far better deal to stay single, chase tail, and pursue your own enlightenment. And maybe that's why men are getting happier...we are throwing off the raw deal women foisted on us the last 30-40 years.

honestly dude, the only way to have kids here in the US is to live like I did; to be raised outside the mainstream. I grew up in a home that's closest to what people here think of the 1950s and that's because my parents lived outside the American mainstream and in their Hispanic-Catholic bubble; almost as if we lived back in our original ethnic homeland (west-central Mexico).

the american mainstream is fucked up beyond belief. children raised in the mainstream most of the time are fuck ups because either mommy and daddy were too busy chasing the elusive dollar, mommy sacked daddy and told him to fuck off through divorce court, or daddy was a pussy and mommy was the one in charge.

i want to get married and have kids eventually but I would never live in the american mainstream. if I do, I would get the raw deal like how some men on this forum have or most of the fathers of men here.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(04-02-2014 08:44 PM)RawGod Wrote:  

Somehow with the flow of stories like these, RoK posts going viral, and a few other small signs in the media, I really have a feeling in my gut that the tide is turning. After all, obesity has plateaued. I think attractive women are more and more wanting to be feminine and differentiate themselves from their fat and feminist sisters. And I think Obama-era liberalism has peaked. What comes next culturally won't be a return to some golden age, it may not be entirely to our liking, and it won't come overnight, but a new and refreshing era is on the way.

the fuck up shit going on can't last forever. I personally see things slowly changing back to equilibrium since we will have the reactionaries responding to the actions of the revolutionaries (feminists, liberals, and friends). we must always assume Newton's law third law of motion; for every action, there's always an equal and opposite reaction.

justice will be served to libtards and I think I will be alive to see it.

[The Lizard of Oz]

Very cool post, Blick Mang. I will now always think of the PA/OH/WV tri-state area as the Land of Shale and Tinder. Love the idea of those TX and NY nursing girls streaming in. Awesome!

[The Father]

(04-02-2014 10:16 PM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

we must always assume Newton's law third law of motion; for every action, there's always an equal and opposite reaction.

justice will be served to libtards and I think I will be alive to see it.

I PRAY I live to see that!

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(04-02-2014 10:37 PM)The Father Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 10:16 PM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

we must always assume Newton's law third law of motion; for every action, there's always an equal and opposite reaction.

justice will be served to libtards and I think I will be alive to see it.

I PRAY I live to see that!

how old are you?

[runsonmagic]

(04-02-2014 06:02 PM)Blick Mang Wrote:  

Girls here are genuine and straightforward. They're reluctant to toss you shit tests, and they take pride in being feminine, while still knowing how to drive a tractor or skin a deer. If you can do well in Europe, you will KILL IT in rural America. My advice is to venture out of the metropolitan cultural wastelands and Tinder it up in the country.

Great write-up. This is very true.

Big cities are great for learning, the same way running at high altitudes is good for building your lung capacity. You can approach, approach, approach, and get blown out so when you go back to a small town, it's easy approaching. Plus, you'll destroy the local male talent.

[Screwston]

I worked with some small town girls and thought it was the same bullshit. They were just more naive and gullible than big city girls. Just be happy with yourself and your life and the girls little shit tests will roll off like nothing.

[The Father]

(04-02-2014 10:54 PM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

how old are you?

40-something.

[Deluge]

(04-02-2014 07:04 PM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 06:56 PM)Deluge Wrote:  

Really? Where I am rural areas have absolutely awful awful quality. The girls are all fat, busted or manly as hell. All the cute and smart girls move away after high school to come to the big cities for university and never move back. The wealthy areas of the major cities have the hottest women hands down.

depends on the rural areas; places like ND, Nebraska, etc; of course, they will have sucky talent since your average jane wants to go where the "action" is. I guess I need to be clearer in what I said. the coastal cities are the worst in the attitudes.


but to say the wealthy areas of the major cities have the hottest girls, well, that can vary. the wealthy areas of SF have pretty low talent to be honest unless you have Stage 4 Yellow Fever. then again, it also depends what type do you want.

I can't speak for SF personally, but I swear an SF RVF member was saying how girls in the rich SF suburbs were the hottest in the area. There's a deluge of studies (see what I did there) showing that men who make high incomes tend to marry more attractive women and that high socio-economic status = far lower obesity rates, as well as higher marriage rates and much lower divorce rates too.

Blick Mang's hometown is an outlier. Most rural areas in the West are in decline, often even in population decline. If it wasn't lucky enough to have oil it'd still be going downhill like it was when he left, and like most other small towns like it are still in decline. Advances in agriculture technology and the flight of manufacturing jobs from the West to the Asia have not been kind to these kinds of places.

[Samseau]

Small town talent sucks ass in the USA, in at least 90% of the small towns out there. Everywhere I've seen at least. Hottest talent is always centered around colleges and big cities.

That said, I'm glad to see your town is doing great!

It's easy to forget that amidst the bloodletting of the past 5 years, many places have been doing very well. DC/Boston/NYC/LA have all been doing very well. Then there are small towns like Blick Mang that have scored off the natural resource boom. But while a few lucky parts of the country are doing great, I suspect that most of the interior of the country is being permanently hallowed out.

Also, to the extent that some areas are experiencing a boom - just remember, this is part of the same credit cycle that brought us the housing bubble so it's only a matter of time before this bubble pops again. Enjoy the peaks.

Here in Boston, I honestly thought that women have been getting slightly less cuntier than normal, but I did not want to say anything as I haven't been doing many approaches since last summer. Things are warming up again so I will see if girls are changing for the better but I am not holding my breath.