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03-06-2014, 11:06 AM
Now that Crimea is going to be a part of Mother Russia again, it's time to celebrate dancing a waltz...
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03-06-2014, 11:27 AM
Well, then without Russian troops on its soil Ukraine will be free to join NATO. No need to wait past 2047.
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03-06-2014, 11:32 AM
Quote: (03-06-2014 11:27 AM)RexImperator Wrote:
Well, then without Russian troops on its soil Ukraine will be free to join NATO. No need to wait past 2047.
Sure thing! The very minute Ukraine tries that, Russian Army takes the Eastern part of the country. Sure!
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03-06-2014, 12:19 PM
Look forward to seeing Khrushchev's mistake being rectified.
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03-06-2014, 03:22 PM
@Rex I am by no means a military strategist but I think it would be difficult to join a military alliance such as NATO with the Black Sea fleet holding such a strong position on the coast line.
I could definitely see them moving closer to the alliance but allowing them to become a full-fledged member seems like it would be a foolish move for NATO.
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03-06-2014, 03:40 PM
looks like someone already wrote aguide on "how to bang Crimea":
http://survincity.com/2013/02/crimea-how-to-bang/
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03-06-2014, 11:18 PM
Well I'm not saying it's a good thing or going to happen anytime soon but a move like this just makes all the neighboring countries nervous as heck. So despite the previous friendly relations it will just push Ukraine away.
@rasti Yeah I guess if not for the international aspect it's a bit like New York annexing South Florida.
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03-07-2014, 05:55 PM
Are there actually Russian troops occupying Crimea? I have heard it claimed that these are Ukranians who are opposed to the new government.
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03-07-2014, 09:48 PM
Quote: (03-07-2014 05:55 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:
Are there actually Russian troops occupying Crimea? I have heard it claimed that these are Ukranians who are opposed to the new government.
In all likelihood they are Russian. At least, that's what my gut tells me. Some western news outlets claim they have Russian weapons and uniforms, but I don't know if that's exactly true or not. It is hard to believe anything.
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03-07-2014, 10:18 PM
Pentagon says 20,000 Russian troops may be in Crimea
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA261RC20140307
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Ukraine's border guards have put the figure far higher.
Serhiy Astakhov, an aide to the border guards' commander, said 30,000 Russian soldiers were now in Crimea, compared with the 11,000 permanently based with the Russian Black Sea fleet in the port of Sevastopol before the crisis.
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03-08-2014, 09:06 AM
A lot of Europeans holiday in Yalta, will be interesting as obviously soon it's going to need those complicated Russia visas and stuff.
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03-08-2014, 01:23 PM
I can't imagine it will be a quick transition. There are lots of things to decide, like who will become Russian citizens and who will merely be a resident. Also currencies, bank deposits, border guards have to be set up and the population data has to be recorded in the Russian system. The Ukrainian side will probably not cooperate with any of that. In addition, tourist season is coming up and they won't want to rock the boat.
They'll probably be part of Russia but a separate customs/travel/monetary/tax zone during the transition period. Somewhat like Puerto Rico is to the US, I imagine.
Russian property rights have improved a lot in the past 3-4 years. It's now extremely difficult to steal an apartment without the owner knowing. If someone is registered in it, that makes practically impossible. The cadastral register (land titles registry) is now electronic and online. It isn't like in the old days where whoever held the piece of paper was the official owner.
The only theft cases I've heard of involved babushkas refusing to sell their shacks on Rublyovka, thereby preventing a bigwig from building his dream mansion complete with an 18-hole golf course.
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03-10-2014, 03:28 AM
I don't understand how the Ukrainian Navy could be blocked by a single scuttled ship. Is the port entrance really that small?
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