Quote: (04-13-2014 12:32 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:
I think the main limiting factor for asian guys in America is the sexualization factor. That is, a lot of white girls, and perhaps girls in general, consider asian guys to be less sexual, more straight edge, and more safe. So there is an image there, and it is an assumption built into the general female perception of asian men. I think if you want to succeed as an asian guy in america, you have to overcompensate a bit by being more aggressive - perhaps even more aggressive than white guys - in order to give off that pussy-tingling contrast. [...]
So, back to the point i made initially, the best way I've observed from personal observation, is to "shock and awe." Just shock other people's perceptions of the asian guy COMPLETELY. Like Kenni Styles or somebody.
That's something I've been wondering about as I have my sights on living in North America towards my late 20s -- either professionally or doing the backpacker thing.
I don't think having sailed across the Atlantic on a 90 foot fishing boat or hitch hiking across Latin America at 23 necessarily qualifies as "safe" or "straight and narrow". Sure I don't walk around with a sign proclaiming that but damned if I'm going to have that "less sexual" filter applied that transcends game etc.
As Deluge indicated, Asian Australians (i.e. those born/raised locally and for all intents consider themselves Australian) are about 50/50 split between white-majority and AA social circles. You'll see this markedly so in university cliques, clubs & societies and such. I have acquaintances in both stripes but I wouldn't say there's much of a middle ground.
AAs tend to socialise, work with, network and hook up within these domains with not a whole lot of crossover.
This distinction is slightly blurred in professional circles but that's skewed accroding to field. Finance, Med, Professional services tend to be more Asian-populated. Engineering, nursing, architecture and the sciences are about 50/50. Mining, Defence and the uniformed services tend to still be Anglo-Celtic domains although that is diminishing somewhat. Mind you, immigration and integration over generations is leaving a more Asian face on our society. Not just in FOB enclaves such as Richmond and Springvale here or Cabramatta in Sydney but in mainstream society, and I don't just mean the odd entrepreneur or entertainer.
This all applies to big-city and metropolitan Australia. You'll find conservative prejudices still run in rural Oz, even in regional cities like Bendigo -- so I'm told from first-hand experience. You'll have outliers that are a bit more progressive in values but they tend to get out and go to uni/trades in the capitals.
So yeah, I think we've definitely come a long way since the days of the White Australia Policy. Sure discrimination and ignorance exists, both overt and covert, even in the big cities. But I think a local Asian that projects Australian-ness in accent, speech, manner and features (there is a difference) tends to be accepted as one at face value.
I was involved in Surf Life Saving for some years. It's still very much a whitebread Aryan preserve and never once was my race an issue. I imagine if I pulled it out for not having my shit together I would've been very, very unpopular. I have it on good authority that it's much the same in our uniformed services.
Forgive me for the large tangent, I thought it would be helpful to give an Antipodean tangent. Any other Aussies are welcome to correct anything inaccurate I wrote.
Based on what I observed, is mainstream America seriously that prejudiced against their Asian community as what SHANbangs indicated? Granted it's a huge call to comment across its different stratas and cultures, say SoCal to New England to the Midwest and Deep South.
I would've gleaned though that the picture wouldn't have been too far off from here.