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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 05:15 AM
I bought the hardback, picked up a lot from Krauser over the years and wanted to give something back. Only had a quick scan through but there's a lot of practical advice and examples.
I really think he's off base with the piracy concerns, bought a paperback copy of his last book and ended up downloading a scanned PDF version to actually read. Not having a digital edition means no potential for digital sales.
But I respect that it's his content and his choice to do so.
Without putting words in his mouth he probably thinks the book would be wasted on the vast majority of people who aren't willing to commit that amount of cash.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 07:21 AM
I think he's priced it right, considering the amount of information and value in this, I think it'll be a long time before anyone delivers such daygame material packed into one book. I recommend it to those who can afford it, his market is aimed at those who've done a lot of daygame approaches so that will probably be quite a few older gentleman.
And as always someone will ask have I got laid from it, I've got laid from his previous book in numerous countries around Europe, I trust his new book will do the same.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 07:51 AM
A lot of people worry about their products being pirated, but I'm of the opinion it's a big help for sales. I'd bet most of the guys here who bought Krausers book would have spent the money and bought it anyways, as opposed to torrenting it.
However, the rest of us who are interested in the book, but no where near interested enough to buy it would definitely read it if a torrent was available. Then in return Krauser would have a while forum of guys hyping his book up and writing reviews about it, talking about it on forums, blogs. Etc. I think it ends up being a net positive.
I see it happen a lot in the bjj instructional market. There are guys who buy instructionals, and guys who torrent them. What ends up happening is thousands of people who probably would have never bought a certain instructional end up torrenting it, and hyping it on the bjj forums. When newbies come in reading threads, doing Google searches for reviews, and asking questions, they get.bombarded with people saying how great the DVD is. Thousands of people will see this and they end up making a shit load of additional sales due to having so many defacto sales people. Especially with really niche instructionals like Ryan Halls stuff that is interesting to a lot of people, but don't play his style enough to justify dropping two bills.
I torrent 95% of my bjj instructionals, because I'm not interested in most of them enough to shell out the $100-$200 per set. However, I have bought a few sets from people I wanted to support that were priced reasonably. I could have torrented them, but I wanted to support them, and the sets had glowing reviews, probably from a lot of people who torrented them lol.
I'll probably never buy a $100 daygame book. I could afford it, as everyone here could if they really wanted it, but I think I can get a lot more value for my $100 elsewhere based on ny interests right now. However, I am interested in it enough to torrent it, and then if people come asking about it, I'd be one of the many who did to give it the reviews and lip service it deserves. If the book was a $9 kindle book, I'd have bought it already. I may have bought it as a $15-20 kindle book.
Interesting stuff to me. I'd love to see some studies on how torrenting and price point affects sales on info products and books. I wonder if it helps them like I suspect, or if they lose out on more sales than they gain?
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 08:54 AM
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Yeah but it's a one-off $100 as opposed to $10 here, $30 there and so on. You just buy this one daygame book and you don't need to get anymore ever again.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 06:34 PM
The price of the book doesn't matter, at least to me.
If this book is as big and packed with info as some say, I bet the time alone to duplicate the knowledge, through experience, will be far greater than the $100.
I am interested in how much time it will save me and to me it sounds like a good deal.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 06:43 PM
For a book it is not cheap, maybe the paperback will be cheaper.
In any case a bootcamp costs five or six time the price, which is outrageous compared to a fat book.
Let's hope krauser (who is also on RVF) adds some comments to this thread anytime soon. Lots of respect to him because he's not a self-promoting PUA like some others who use RVF to market their stuff.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 06:54 PM
WTF is a lifestyle residential?
There's a lot of 'top' daygamers here on the forum that don't have it. I think you can save your money and learn 100x more for $100 less by meeting up with heavy hitters on the forum and cutting through the bullshit.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 07:05 PM
It would be cool if he could sell chunks of it for cheaper- like chapters/serials.
Then a guy could read it and see if he wanted to buy the whole thing.
If it's a magnetic read, then it will be hard for it not to sell in it's entirety.
Almost everything I've read by Krauser is great. There are a lot of heady concepts to take in at times, but very interesting stuff if not extremely useful.
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In the future, we are going to need filters because there is going to be so much knowledge accumulated, that no guy will have time to take everything in.
Krauser is kind of like that. He's good at articulating all of this stuff.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 07:21 PM
I still don't know how I'm selling so many books even though they're being pirated everywhere. It's possible I'd sell more with no piracy, but there's no way to know for sure.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 07:24 PM
Krauser didn't start getting laid till last year. From the timeline I'd consider him an amateur at best. There's guys here on the forum that was getting the same #'s and better quality in their late teens, early 20's. "Game" is a skill. Like the gym, dudes just don't jump into it and be in beast mode in a year or so. PUA's get their dick wet one time and gotta write a book about it. That doesn't mean they are the scholars of trim. They get into it way too late, and will never be able to break some of those lifelong beta habits. You can see it in his body language on Youtube vids.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 07:28 PM
"I still don't know how I'm selling so many books even though they're being pirated everywhere. It's possible I'd sell more with no piracy, but there's no way to know for sure."
^Is there any recourse authors can take to diminish pirating?
If someone is too cheap to spend $15-20 on a book that can change their life, then they have larger issues than not being able to pick up chicks.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 07:36 PM
Quote: (02-17-2014 07:24 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:
Krauser didn't start getting laid till last year. etc....
That's just fucking stupid.
But yeah, any proper questions? Put them in this thread and I'll give it a go.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 07:57 PM
Quote: (02-17-2014 07:36 PM)Krauser Wrote:
Quote: (02-17-2014 07:24 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:
Krauser didn't start getting laid till last year. etc....
That's just fucking stupid.
But yeah, any proper questions? Put them in this thread and I'll give it a go.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 08:21 PM
Ali, stop trolling Krauser.
It's obvious and pathetic.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 08:25 PM
Quote: (02-17-2014 08:21 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Ali, stop trolling Krauser.
It's obvious and pathetic.
I think its ridiculous the guy is selling a hundred dollar book where in a community is outclassed. I watch the video he has on Youtube and sees he's nowhere near Elmech, Fisto, JohnKreese, ect. The difference is we meetup and help each other out au gratis. I wonder how much Krauser is charging to show up at your house for a week? This self promoting is killing the forum.
edit- I should have guessed.
http://dangerandplay.com/blogroll/
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 08:37 PM
You've been a hateful little guy lately.
Has your life gone south?
Krauser is as legit as they come. He was posting "proof of lay" videos years ago before the creeps and stalkers and white knights made that impossible to do.
You're out of your element here.
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Nick Krauser – Daygame mastery
02-17-2014, 08:41 PM
I'm probably out of my element. If any of the young cats want my advice on the book, shoot me a PM. I'll stay off this thread.